The Batman (June 25, 2021)

[Cap'n Cook]

I don’t see any need for that laugh to be related to the joker it doesn’t sound like anyone else but the Riddler so I’m not sure why everyone’s all worked up over that.
on another note I do believe this film is going to go down the path of the court of owls. I think we will definitely see that storyline come about and it’s a good foil to give that man a more conflicted stance.

plus it’s Danos voice and you can see his reflection in the glass in that scene from the previous trailer.

 

[IndyDave]

Such garbage...

OOhhh... Another super Dark Batman movie. So original. BatFleck is looking mighty good compared to this drivel.

But I guess maybe they feel EMO Batman is new and original.

Minions and fluffy unicorns are another franchise.

 

[IndyDave]

LOl….nothing will make any of those movies look good….

DC Batfleck was. failure

Agreed. I couldn’t stand the Batfleck dreck. The Joker was an original, gritty take on the character which I have watched at least 4 times. Something for everyone, I suppose.

 

[Mondragon]

plus it’s Danos voice and you can see his reflection in the glass in that scene from the previous trailer.

You mean it’s Joker imitating his voice, and wearing his skin as a mask. [/plot brought to you by the fans]

 

[BeefEaster]

Apparently there's a quick shot in that japanese trailer of a pin up board with newspaper articles pinned to it and in one of the pictures there's someone with a big, grinning face standing behind Bruce.
That's where the joker speculation is coming from.

 

[BeefEaster]

Yeah, I found a picture.

 

[Wor-Gar]

Pretty cool catch. Does that indicate that the Joker is somehow "behind" the Riddler's plot?

 

[Cap'n Cook]

I don’t even think that’s a face with a grin. Just looks like regular background shapes someone has assimilated as a face, and the conjecture has followed.

 

[Wor-Gar]

I don’t even think that’s a face with a grin. Just looks like regular background shapes someone has assimilated as a face, and the conjecture has followed.

It's fun all the same.

I actually hope its a foresight plant. To me, that's a genuine "easter egg".

 

[ironwez20]

I don’t even think that’s a face with a grin. Just looks like regular background shapes someone has assimilated as a face, and the conjecture has followed.

Yea it looks weird lol

 

[Bleah]

It says Wayne seen with mystery woman. So I'm assuming it's just a woman smiling.

 

[Wor-Gar]

The Joker's a woman now!!!???


This just in -- THE NEW JOKER IS A WOMAN!

 

[greygoose]

The Joker's a woman now!!!???


This just in -- THE NEW JOKER IS A WOMAN!

Male Harley confirmed...

 

[Wor-Gar]

Male Harley confirmed...

Harold Quinn shakes his junk at you!!!

 

[greygoose]

Harold Quinn shakes his junk at you!!!

 

[matticus]

It says Wayne seen with mystery woman. So I'm assuming it's just a woman smiling.

One that serves two purposes.

 

[ironwez20]

The Joker's a woman now!!!???


This just in -- THE NEW JOKER IS A WOMAN!

That would be quite interesting

 

[edonian]

The Joker's a woman now!!!???


This just in -- THE NEW JOKER IS A WOMAN!

Only if Lauren Cohan gets to play the female version. Heh.

 

[Wor-Gar]

THE JOKER IS A WOMAN!

 

[lordnastrond]

Super excited for this movie - I know some people are hating on a dark(er) take on Batman, but a thematically darker more detective-focused, almost horror-genre batman story, in the line of Se7en or Zodiac etc is exactly what I think is drawing so many people (including myself) to this film.

Darker stories work for Batman as long as it doesn't get to the point of parody.
Gotham and the monsters inhabiting it should be dark, some of them should be pitch black in terms of dark tones - look at the Joker movie, extremely dark but in a way that felt appropriate, and I think thats because of who the main character was - In my opinion its when they make Bruce overly dark for the sake of it that it starts to feel forced or stale.
I'm thinking the comic book runs when they have Bruce betray or abuse the Robins for no real reason just to show how tormented he is, or then retroactively justify it by it being "training" or part of a plan or some ********; or movies where they have him kill guys and brand them for no particular reason beyond it showing how "hardcore" he is, or the iterations that emphasize that he "only works alone/is always alone/Batman must be alone etc" that ignore the reality that he probably has the biggest support group, friendship circle, and extended family out of any character in DC.
Bruce should be a light in the darkness, with real humanity and compassion - not just some sentinel of distant stares, emotional emptiness and ass-kicking. This is why the superior Bruce Wayne/Batman is still the one from the Animated series, and then Keaton (with his genune desires to create emotional ties outside of his Bat-persona and the lack of overly-philosophical introspection - I'm looking at you Bale - Keaton's period-typical 80's nonchalance with murder aside).
Batman is tormented, conflicted, paranoid etc - but those traits don't and shouldn't define a characterization of Bruce Wayne. That is leaning into the parody/unnuanced level of "darkness".

That said, if Pattinson's Batman IS a touch too moody, etc - I would be able to justify it if this was the beginning of his Batman's journey, when his path is more about his enacting his own version of vengeance on Gotham's criminal element before he develops the deeper wisdom that experience provides. It also looks like this iteration of Ridder is also enacting his own twisted version of "justice" maybe its by finding not enough differences between himself and this monster he's hunting that Pattinson's Bruce Wayne will realize the path he's on needs to change.