Re: Man of Steel 2 (Superman/Batman--Official title to be confirmed)
Man Of Steel 2: Season of the Bat
I really hope not.
When you do a news search on the batman casting, all the blogs are gushing either gosling or brolin. Heres one theme all these blogs have in common, "which one of these actors will be the lucky pick to rise to super stardom when they play batman". They are basically standing on batman's shoulders. The worst part is that dc seems to be employing the "lets see who is available tactic". They should try to follow the james cameron method, he keeps searching until he finds the perfect match even if it means casting a non recognizable actor.
But that doesn't mean they are focusing more on Batman for the movie. This is the consequences of Bale not wanting to reprise the role for the new movies.
Superman is already casted, they don't need to look for someone new. But Batman fans are very vocal, and the internet is going to explode if they don't like who is casted as the new Batman.
LOL @ Superman not important in his own movie!
That would be the stupidest thing they could do. I hope they wise up, and make a Superman movie for Superman fans.
As long as the characters act like emotionally bankrupt robots and spout dumb catch phrases that don't make any sense, we're good.
That's Marvel Studios style!
I think that having Nolan build up the DC Universe will help DC Entertainment find their own style for movies. They don't need to copy everything the way Marvel Studios does.
I think that under Nolan, DC has a very realistic shot at surpassing Marvel in the movie field.
He in fact is not important in this film, which now belongs to Batman. Its All About The Bat.
I have to admit, if they cast someone like Ryan Gosling, or the aforementioned Ashton Kutcher I am going to laugh loud and long just out of sheer meanness. [Generally speaking]: You Batman fans want Bats taking over everything...? Cool beans. Hope you like what you see! lmao
I'm hoping they REALLY don't make this movie modeled after "The Dark Knight Returns". It's like everyone at DC Entertainment has forgotten that they also got many other classic stories besides that one. Some of them are Superman's even.
Would it really be so wrong to adapt "For the man who had everything"? It's a classic Superman story, it has Batman in it, but Superman is the star, and it features and awesome fight between Superman and a villain that has never been seen before by moviegoers.
This should be Superman's movie. Batman should be the antagonist. Batman should be all of the public's paranoia, fear, and anger, all rolled up into one ruthless, tactical, and agressive package. Superman wants to stop Batman, he needs to prove his worth to him.
Superman shouldn't need to prove anything to Batman. Rather, I can see how Batman would feel like Superman has something to prove to him. It's Batman's personality, he's authoritarian and thinks everyone should be at his service and under his vigilance and control.
...But why should Superman have to prove his worth to Batman, in what by rights should be his own movie? He should tell Batman to get the Hell back to Gotham and clean that place up before he decides to solve all Metropolis' problems too. Does Batman not already have enough on his plate?
This whole idea is just so damn witless.
Exactly, pretty much.
I'm guessing that, like in the Justice Lords universe, Superman will successfully transform Metropolis into a police state where any violation of law is met with lobotomization. Then, he'll expand his dictatorial reign to Gotham. Initially Batman will resist. And Batman will crush Superman in a fight. But then Batman will be tempted by the power to stop all crime, and will join Superman.
Why? To piss-off Superman fans on purpose? What sense would that make?
Batman is the public. The dude just leveled a city and snapped a guy's neck. People are going to be afraid, and fear breeds paranoia, and paranoia breeds violence. I was wrong with the way I worded that; Batman doesn't need Superman to prove his worth, he needs him to prove Batman wrong.
He needs prove nothing, and much less to Batman. If anything, we already seen in "Man of Steel" that the military already know that Superman is on the side of humanity.
That would only be Batman's ego making him wanting to take control of everything, like he always does in comics.
Seriously though, if they want to go so dark with Superman, and to take away the joy and wonder of the character while making the world more "gritty and realistic," then why not go all the way and embrace the corrupting influence of power? He's the most powerful man in the world, after all, and he's already flagrantly defied the will of the U.S. government, acting as if he is the moral authority. The more he flexes his muscles, the more he'll start to view humans as the ants they are in relation to him. The only ones who will be spared will be those who demonstrate their own form of strength and power--like Batman, Flash, etc.
Have we seen the same movie at all? He DEFENDED the military! And thay accepted him. He defied no one's authority. You're missing the point on what Superman is and represents, and the worst of all is that if fans don't understand what's so wrong with such ideas, Hollywood is going to make even worse.
I should clarify that I was not calling Batfan "witless," but the whole idea of this completely unnecessary "team-up." Or cage match, or whatever it is.
Why does Batman get a free pass? Perhaps Superman just killed someone, but batman is hardly a saints-and-angels kind of guy. Did he not burn a guy's house down with said guy still in it, as far as he knew? There he is, sneaking all over Gotham doing questionable things [tips hat to Roy Batty] and doing it so well that he had to actually disappear from public view for a while because the public was so nervous.
If anything, the public ought to send their new defender over to Gotham to roust out this shadowy menace and defeat him once and for all. But that would never do, because this is Batman's movie now and he now and forever holds all the cards.
I rather the made another Superman movie without Batman in it. Superman doesn't need having Batman as a co-star to sell tickets. Of course that both of them together under the same banner is going to sell even better than either of them separately, but then make it as a separate movie, and not one of Superman with Batman in it. This sucks a lot, really.
If it''s still a Superman movie, they should at least base it on a Superman story, and not on a Batman one.
Befoul such thought. (Most of) the DC animated movies are great!
