Star Wars: Ahsoka

[Otomofan]

Can anyone tell me in a sentence or two just WHY Thrawn is considered to be sooooo cool and the ultimate SW villain?

I remember my friends losing their **** over the guy back in 1991 when the novels came out and I just didn't understand it. What's the big deal? What makes him any different than Admiral Piett painted blue?

 

[greymask]

Well, that means the russian Shakespeare just got unlucky to meet multiple amber heard in his life

 

[Mondragon]

Can anyone tell me in a sentence or two just WHY Thrawn is considered to be sooooo cool and the ultimate SW villain?

I remember my friends losing their **** over the guy back in 1991 when the novels came out and I just didn't understand it. What's the big deal? What makes him any different than Admiral Piett painted blue?

To understand his great motivations and pathos you need to check out his back-story back in his Star Command days, epic stuff...

*It was mostly that 70s' pornstache. Though there was also some obscure #1 best seller Timothy Zahn Novels everyone read in the 90s, might have had an influence too.

Kidding. Not sure about the cartoons, but back in the Novels, it's been a while: He'd kind'a filled the void left by the Emperor and Vader, yet with different approach and tactics. He had a thing for analyzing his enemies or a species he was conquering, art and culture. That earily seamed out of respect or fascination. Yet that is what would inform his strategy against them, allowing him to curiously predict their approach to battle or instinct for survival, and how he could defeat them.
Made his process somewhat interesting.
Also he'd try to understand his own underlings failures, and look for their usefulness, instead of just killing them out right, like Vader.

A bit over hyped I think, yet at least he wasn't a direct copy of what was there before.

 

[Ramatuelle]

Can anyone tell me in a sentence or two just WHY Thrawn is considered to be sooooo cool and the ultimate SW villain?

I remember my friends losing their **** over the guy back in 1991 when the novels came out and I just didn't understand it. What's the big deal? What makes him any different than Admiral Piett painted blue?

**** if I know. I got most of the way through the first book and the only reason I really got was that he was a Chiss and therefore super rare. Imo Vader is much more interesting. He is tormented and his mindset is understandable, if supremely unhealthy. Vader has charisma. And, strangely enough he is also gifted with the rizz.

Thrawn seems very Dr. Evil to me.

 

[Mondragon]

Thrawn seems more interested in moving whatever is in those cargo boxes.

Likely "dead" witches.

 

[MeatHookGekko]

Can anyone tell me in a sentence or two just WHY Thrawn is considered to be sooooo cool and the ultimate SW villain?

I remember my friends losing their **** over the guy back in 1991 when the novels came out and I just didn't understand it. What's the big deal? What makes him any different than Admiral Piett painted blue?

When Zahn conceived of Thrawn (released in the early 90's but formulated in the late 80s), the timeline back then had Hans Gruber as the new trend in what a main villain/antagonist could be. ( Refined, sophisticated, self deprecating, clever, pragmatic ) It's just porting over Alan Rickman from Die Hard into Star Wars.

Thrawn is passionate about art, culture, politics, strategy and attention to detail because Hans Gruber would be the exact same way.

As a pleasant coincidence and fortunate timing for Zahn, this around the same time that Phil Jackson had massive success in the NBA with Michael Jordan and the Bulls. And the entire "Zen" mantra and lifestyle became mainstream trendy for the 90s. The Bulls back then had international appeal as well, so that Zen Master trope just kept chugging along with the sale of each pair of Nikes. Of course, given the pre widespread Internet era, and the way that Lucas handled things back then, there wasn't much competition for Zahn at all.

Zahn decades later retconned Thrawn unfortunately. Pulled the same beaten down gimmick that Anne Rice did with the vampire Lestat.

 

[Khev]

It was a great episode very 80’s fantasy like which is a win in my book.

I was ok with her demeanor because of her needing to let out that Sabine betrayed her.

She continues to look absolutely stunning as Ahsoka.

Music and Nightsisters were awesome standouts.

Totally agree about the 80's fantasy vibe really working for this episode. Felt very Dark Crystal-ish to me. Man I freaking love this series and it's without a doubt shaping up to be the most toyetic live-action show ever, lol.

 

[Khev]

Why practical Clones but CGI Stormtroopers?

The fatties chasing Anakin have made me do a total 180 on CG Clones and Stormtroopers. Bring 'em on.

 

[Khev]

They did a good job at making it feel like a different Galaxy.

Absolutely. It felt like unfamiliar Star Wars but somehow "correctly" unfamiliar Star Wars, if that makes any sense, lol.

The Nightsisters and their Magick always felt otherworldly even in The Clone Wars.

The Nightsisters were freaking awesome, seriously we're getting George Lucas levels of variety when it comes to awesome villains on this show.

 

[Khev]

I just want to know why those crab people were all sitting in that dried up river bed together.

I assume they were all doing some task or on their way to do a task and then went into rock mode when they heard the wolf creature approaching, hoping that they'd pass without noticing them.

 

[MyenShi]

I assume they were all doing some task or on their way to do a task and then went into rock mode when they heard the wolf creature approaching, hoping that they'd pass without noticing them.

That's feasible, but I prefer my head canon that they were taking an Ezra break.

They're probably not even migratory. They keep trying to move their village away from him but he keeps following.

 

[Khev]

Thrawn's intolerance for Baylan and Shin not finishing off Ahsoka both makes him cooler and some of the silliness in the first three episodes easier to swallow. The whole appeal of his character is that he's the Hans Gruber of Star Wars, I hope Filoni recognizes that and doesn't allow him to make any stupid mistakes.

 

[jaztermareal]

Its Disney/Filoni. It won't get as deem as anyone hopes. Just surface level cool followed with empty disappointment at the character not living up to potential. We still get cool figures from it though.

 

[greymask]

Am I the only one thinks live action thrawn looks asian?
Give him a long thin moustache, and dynasty hat/crown, he become fu manchu

 

[Ramatuelle]

Episode 3:

.....

I remember some purrgils. And not much else, besides Sabine being shamed during saber practice and a whoooooolllllleeeee lotta talking.

Every time I see Hera, all I can see are those godawful contacts.

No, this isnt BoBF ridiculous but capturing my attention, not really. Plainly I expect too much. Sour grapes.

 

[Otomofan]

Don't feel bad. I think the show is positively wretched. I have yet to make it through a single episode. I'm just kinda skimming to see if there are any interesting cameos.

The contact lenses are atrocious. So is the green make up on soccer mom.

Everyone's going nuts over the the dark Jedi guy and the poodle-looking girl, but I just don't get it. They're as one-dimensional as any background SW character ever was and their costumes just look like something out of Disney Plus Willow, not SW. Orange lightsabers are dumb. Ahsoka is dumb too. She's dumb looking and she just stands around with her arms crossed.

I'm absolutely baffled how people can actually sit through this, let alone come away from it feeling "entertained."

This made me laugh. I can't believe these people are actually real.

 

[Asta]

James Petrashuyk

 

[Mondragon]

Finding Ezra in itself seemed like a joke to me as well, it took her like an hour to find one guy on an entire planet, thanks to those little crab people that just so happened to have rebel necklaces on.
Convenient.

What are the chances they take one of these little (license to print hasbro money) toy crab people with them, to bounce off and annoy Chopper.

For a while I thought I'd taken a wrong turn at Albuquerque and ended up in Fraggle Rock, or maybe The Dark Crystal.

Then I was wondering whether the shells were permanently attached, and how they managed to get their shirts on.

Looks like they come off like packs.
I'm sure the toy variations will be endless.

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Maybe they secretly hate Ezra and wanted to get away. They took Sabine to him because they thought she'd get rid of him for them.

 

[Mondragon]

... what could possibly be calling Baylan? Very interested to find out.

Wasn't there some slumbering Force-Moose creature at the center of everything, another of Filoni's contrivances?

 

[Mondragon]

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So when he packs up to go, Is he going to cut the beard, the hair, put on anything that references his old gear (it's been 10 years nomad), or is this his look going forward?

Somewhat now channeling his father.
Hopefully the beard sticks, though if they can justify it, wouldn't mind more reference to his old look, the jacket? not sure it should fit?), ...

FYI if Ezra's ethnicity was ever debated (is there such a thing in SW) ? Or if some are trying to construe an imagined accent? The actor Eman's dad is Iranian his mother Ecuadorian, he was born in Texas, ambiguity lends itself well to the character.

Eman Esfandi - I am a Texas boy! My mother and father immigrated to the United States from Ecuador and Iran respectively, and I was born and raised in the border town of Laredo, Texas.