[iminime] / Trevor Grove - The Cowboy ~ FULL REVEAL ~

[Invictus Sol]

Cool, thanks for the explanation, Pop.

 

[shells075]

I can see this thing going for big bucks on ebay in the future

 

[karamazov80]

Yeah, I don't see a big difference between this and Rainman's process. Saying Rainman's figures are more special somehow, and so therefore low run DX's are OK seems like splitting hairs to me. Like Pop says, Sideshow does lower run "exclusives," Rainman does as well. Hell, even Hasbro sometimes will do con exclusive repaints of smaller production runs (even if those runs are several hundred or even thousands). Size of Ex. is all relative, but it's a good business strategy to toss these up every once in awhile, and that's why every collectible company under the sun does it.

It does suck that some who want this head can't have it, but like others are saying, that's the nature of the game. We can't each win them all.

I do, however, agree with Raymond on the screwy checkout process. I was lucky enough to have it work in my favor, but if it didn't work out I would not be so happy. If the system gets slowed down and you can't checkout that's one thing. But the cart randomly emptying while stock is still available? At that point it feels like a purely arbitrary process, and while I guess that's fair in a sense, I don't like arbitrary.

 

[jeffk]

I'll be honest... I've said this on many occasions for multiple threads... I don't like the concept of having a limited set run despite others wanting to jump in. We're all collectors here... a small fraction of a percentage of the entire world. While I think Denny should honor the DX numbers as he's already given his word it won't change before preorders ever took place, I do wish they'd discontinue the practice. I know I'll never get a Rainman Plainview DX head, but it really does suck for people who want one. Instead... a select few... get off on the notion that they have something others want.

I have to speak my heart out. That notion you're referring to... I'd be lying if I say it doesn't feel FANTASTIC. Sorry, it's human nature and I am very much in touch with humanity.

I have to say, I am quite surprised by all the folks who are complaining about the DX editions being so small, or that the site was slow or screwy. Of course it is frustrating when we can't get what we want, but this is no different from buying concert or sports tickets from ticketmaster. I can't tell you how many times I have missed out on concert tickets because the site could not handle the bandwidth, the site screwed up my order, or the venue was so small that there were barely any seats available.

This is also no different from when Rainman puts his stuff for sale, and also offers deluxe editions. And his deluxe editions are typically limited to 10 copies! Missed on tons of those too.

 

[PopCultKid]

It might be the socialist in me Pop, and I love ya brother, but you were lucky enough to get one and if you weren't you might feel cheated too no? (Yes I got one too but I sympathize for those that didn't plus my brother didn't and he was there at the checkout right on time).

I'm totally with you that limiting releases and the special items is what the make up of a DX set should be and I'm in agreeance with that principal. Where my thirst for justice in this matter is that this screwy system prevented users who were on time and have done this kind of thing for years with people like Rainman right on time, generally you get what you want it's the people who stroll in hours later that miss out and rightfully so.

So due to the screwy site cart system I think an exception should be made for this.

I love ya back, mio fratello italino dalla Mela Grande!!

Quite honestly my man if I missed of course I'd be disappointed but I wouldn't feel cheated. And I definitely wouldn't go on a "squeaky wheel gets the oil" tear . To each their own but that's just not my method. I know how this game works and I don't feel like it's like that. I missed on Beto's '78 Myers and paid $300 over retail to snag him. I paid over $2200 for RM's Bill and I paid a pretty good nut for Alex too. I know when the run is done you gotta pay the piper.

I have to say, I am quite surprised by all the folks who are complaining about the DX editions being so small, or that the site was slow or screwy. Of course it is frustrating when we can't get what we want, but this is no different from buying concert or sports tickets from ticketmaster. I can't tell you how many times I have missed out on concert tickets because the site could not handle the bandwidth, the site screwed up my order, or the venue was so small that there were barely any seats available.

This is also no different from when Rainman puts his stuff for sale, and also offers deluxe editions. And his deluxe editions are typically limited to 10 copies! Missed on tons of those too.

Except for batfan... He should have gotten one.

Thank you for another good example. There are plenty things in the world where the demand out weighs the supply

 

[turbo.VS.ozone]

You would have a very different opinion if this same convo was going on in a Rainman thread

Exactly, because it's a different product. I'm not trying to convert you man, you've been doing this long enough but If you can't tell the difference by now than I guess that's what it is, that's your reality.

Just tell me that these aren't going to be outsourced to a factory in china somewhere to be made. I just want to be clear on that.


Don't be a hypebeast.

 

[Wake]

After cooling down and realizing this is just a collectible, I've ordered a head sculpt and clothing set; exactly like I did with Rainman's version! This is going to be somewhat of a harder pickle as I'll have to figure out the rig and pistol (any help or direction pointing there will be much obliged!) as well as boots. All in all, I'm happy.

Battlegeartoys has Clint Eastwood boots and tooled western gun rigs as well as colt revolvers

 

[PopCultKid]

People like Rainman or Beto can rest on the Laurels of "limited edition" talk because the nature of their product truely is Limited. Rainman is 1 man working on at least 75% of a figure, sculpt/paint/putting it all together etc. Beto and Lu are 2 people, just 2 putting out their stuff, real handmade high quality work. But Iminime got a staff, a little bit of outsourcing going on. It's not the same. They should have rode this wave and supplied their customers.

The checkout fiasco is a whole other mess.

EDIT: you added this after

Iminime has a bigger team but they are also doing 5 times Beto's yearly output (figure-wise; forget about ES) and 2.5 times Rainman's so the whole thing is relative. Until Iminime breaks thru to being a licensed co. doing runs in the 1000's, they are much more similar to Rainman & Beto than you care to believe as I’ve mentioned to you before.

Wouldn't it be great if everyone who wanted one got one?

I'm with you but that's just not realistic. Things with big runs in the 30's and 70's are a lot to begin with. In the real limited release threads, like 10-15 I'm the first to throw out "can you guys squeeze a few more people in".... after I'm already on the list

 

[turbo.VS.ozone]

EDIT: you added this after

Iminime has a bigger team but they are also doing 5 times Beto's yearly output (figure-wise; forget about ES) and 2.5 times Rainman's so the whole thing is relative. Until Iminime breaks thru to being a licensed co. doing runs in the 1000's, they are much more similar to Rainman & Beto than you care to believe

Iminme should have rode the wave on this and supplied their customers. Alot of people got left out in the dark from buying a figure that a TEAM of people/staff are working on.
Do me a favor, pm Beto and ask him if it's similar. Get back to me on his answer.

 

[chubbyman]

I agree it's not realistic but hey, wishful thinking haha

I'm planning to get the headsculpt and clothing set, from there on, it's a really easy bash anyways.

 

[chilipep66]

I havn't said a whole lot here other than echoing batfans dissapointment as I am in his boat

the thing about this that just makes me mad and feel like I got the real short end of the stick here is that I've probably been Iminimes BIGGEST supporter through their entire run thus far, financially as well as constructive criticism wise. I am no stranger to this method of pre order, as Ive been on it since Rainmans Blondie. Ive spent an unspeakable amount on custom offerings and make sure Im where I need to be when the time comes to secure my place and my order. This time, I did again, after years of diligence and respect for the first come first serve system. I believe thats how it should be when your dealing with things this limited. This however, was not first come first serve. it was a cluster *****. I was there, as a VIP, right when I needed to be. I've never had to come in late to the party and spend 2 grand on an offering a year later, I've been on the ball from day one. I already sent Denny an email, and if nothing can be done for me, Ill be choked to say the least.

Im not even gonna go the route of begging other boardies to sell me theirs because I believe I should not have to. Loyalty to the company and diligence to the pre order time should be MORE than enough for a VIP member to secure a DX order in any of these custom order processes.

 

[gizmo]

I am happy to have it, but, like I said, it just feels incomplete. As others have said, I just wish that everyone that wanted one got one. Going back to what PopCultKid said, there shouldn't be any "luck" involved. There were a lot of people that were very committed to this project, including yourself, and they shouldn't have to miss out because of Internet speed or an empty cart or what have you.

And, if a number is that important, why not just offer a run of unpainted sculpts? I've said before that I'd love to see what some of the talented individuals on this board could do with the sculpt, and you'd still know who had the DX by not only the certificate, but the IMINIME paint-up, as well.

Hey man I sent you PM to comment this unhatted head issue. If you can check it please. Don't know if it sent correctly.

 

[PopCultKid]

Exactly, because it's a different product. I'm not trying to convert you man, you've been doing this long enough but If you can't tell the difference by now than I guess that's what it is, that's your reality.

Just tell me that these aren't going to be outsourced to a factory in china somewhere to be made. I just want to be clear on that.


Don't be a hypebeast.

I know what the difference is and it's this: there are more people here willing to spend $350 on a fig than there are willing to spend $800. That's what makes these products different and that's why there is more traffic in the iminime threads. If you want to argue that Rainman's and Beto's skills are superior I'd agree. But Iminime is getting up there. These are all handmade art figures. Until they go straight Blitzway that's what they are. Iminime's outsourcing of accessories and such is all thru thier relationship with ZCWO. They may get a little help with some bits of accessories here and there but there are ZCWO figs wearing Iminime sculpts

Don't be a hypebeast.

What's today's current market value of the Butcher and Beetlejuice???

 

[batfan08]

Like I said, though; if the limited nature of the DX is that important, why not an unpainted run? You'd still have the certificate and the paint-up to differentiate between them. That's 2/3. If that's not good enough; well, that's just being stingy.

 

[nexus]

Sure I was disappointed not to get the DX and the "empty cart" message, but then I had the option of the regular. Had I missed that I would have gotten the painted head and outfit (like I had to do with Rainman's Pulp Fiction Vince, and will probably have to do for Jules). Had I missed those after being there at the beginning I certainly would have been fuming. But all taken together there are something like 70-80 pieces I think, which is pretty good.

 

[chubbyman]

anyone know the waist inches for a normal TTM21? I want to grab the holster from stevo but I don't know the typical figure waist size, don't have a body on me to measure either

 

[greatlakes6]

My biggest issue with the checkout process it that once it is in your cart, you should be able to proceed without being told in the next step that your cart is empty. If you received a message that said the system is busy, etc. and you needed to refresh, that would also be ok. But, when it tells you your cart is empty and you have to start all over, that changes everything because people who started the process after you, now have a chance to get the item since you are spending your time starting all over. If you were there first, you should have some type of place holder.

 

[chilipep66]

My biggest issue with the checkout process it that once it is in your cart, you should be able to proceed without being told in the next step that your cart is empty. If you received a message that said the system is busy, etc. and you needed to refresh, that would also be ok. But, when it tells you your cart is empty and you have to start all over, that changes everything because people who started the process after you, now have a chance to get the item since you are spending your time starting all over. If you were there first, you should have some type of place holder.

 

[batfan08]

Absolutely 100% agree. That thing was a cluster**** on all accounts, both times.

 

[turbo.VS.ozone]

What's today's current market value of the Butcher and Beetlejuice???

It's what you and the other guy paid!


.....am I wrong?



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