To address the comparison that you (and I'm sure sure countless others) are proposing, I just want to point out a key distinction between this potential ANH retcon and the one that Lucas did with the "...from a certain point of view" patch.Dayum, quite a hardline position. I've softened on the idea of this show over time. In fact I remember my earliest encounter with Ducky and aussiebott on this forum was when I asked - possibly in this thread - how am I going to accept as canon any new Star Wars that acknowledges the PT and their depiction of characters and events - which they rolled their eyes at and took some umbrage to.
As to you saying this
I pretty much did just that in my post yesterday.
Anyway, if nothing else there'll be some interesting discussions ahead
The reason that none of that would bother me is because I already have multiple canons including but not limited to:To address the comparison that you (and I'm sure sure countless others) are proposing, I just want to point out a key distinction between this potential ANH retcon and the one that Lucas did with the "...from a certain point of view" patch.
When the first Star Wars came out, there wasn't really a luxury for leaving Luke with glaringly unfinished business. Sequels were arguably a longshot. The ESB plot twist provided a more profound personal arc for the main character, thus justifying the retcon as essential to drive the narrative forward. Its purpose was to give the saga richer thematic underpinnings. But what you have now, in contrast, is a *fully-realized* story and character arcs being tinkered with for every extra dollar that can be squeezed out of those iconic characters and the less relevant gaps in their stories.
So, the better comparison, IMO, is when Lucas literally changed the dialogue between Vader and the Emperor in one of the "special" editions of ESB so as to better line up with his poorly-thought-out Anakin origin from the prequels. I prefer if the originals had been considered off-limits masterpieces, free of any future tweaking. But still... Lucas doing it is one thing; it's his creation. Having it done now is a different level of objectionable.
Retconning key context from the original Star Wars movie to shamelessly pander to those wanting the "coolness" of another duel between Ewan's Kenobi and Hayden's Vader is something that I can only shake my head at, rather than try to justify it. And then some lame explanation for why Vader would identify himself as "a learner" 10 years after Mustafar will follow. It will be so much laughably stupider than anything the Kenobi character uttered on Dagobah in ROTJ. The context of not only Vader's ANH dialogue, but also Tarkin's, should be beyond any attempt to provide new context now.
Even if this shamelessly pandering duel is used to patch up incongruity with the PT, I still wouldn't see that as reason enough to diminish a key scene in ANH. It's like being disgruntled that your exterior walls have crap stains which you can't remove, so in an effort to make things seem more unified, you smear crap on the impeccable interior walls. I'd rather just do my best to ignore (or, preferably, paint over) the unsightly walls while preserving the excellent ones.
But yes, fun discussions to eventually be had.
The more they tack on, the worse it gets for the OT story and quality.
Yep which is why compartmentalization is a must if you're to enjoy any of it.
I really can't enjoy SW as a whole anymore. So much has been tainted with Disney/KK/Woke Group that while liking Mando, there isn't other properties to go to. Comics are stuck with Vader. High Republic is woke propaganda in novel form. Sure Obi-Wan might have some cool stuff. Andor is a head scratcher. Fett is honestly an old man. But it is just beating an old drum that is honestly a little late. You know a franchise is failing when they have to go back to their old dogs to carry it again. Star Trek is the same with Picard. People keep consuming it so why change?
I hear you. KK's woke story group truly is the worst but I don't think they've really contributed much to the films or Mando and are pretty much just relegated to High Republic and comic book nonsense.
You got Feige who understands Marvel. He established a group of writers behind the scenes, gives a open minded direction and lets the main screenwriter(s) and director(s) the freedom to make a better film. Then it can be washed again with another writer with Feige supervising.
Yep which is why compartmentalization is a must if you're to enjoy any of it.
Also another reason why the Infinity Saga is just so freaking amazing. Rewatching the original Iron Man after revisiting IW and EG in no way made me wish that they had just stopped the MCU after two or three films. They went *23* films where everything connected satisfactorily all while saving the best for last!
You'd have to be crazy to cut IW/EG out of your MCU canon which instantly makes you accept pretty much everything leading up to it. But with SW it's just the opposite with the only "must haves" being SW and ESB and everything after being disposable to varying degrees.
I am NOT a millennial and I plan on wearing Depends during my viewing of the series...so there!
Okay I just looked into which films were filmed with what and I see that IM1 was filmed on Super 35. As many already know Super 35 allows for the filming of two aspect ratios simultaneously. A widescreen version for theaters and an open matte version for home and airplane viewing with the open matte actually showing more picture than what was in theaters. It looks like for the Disney "IMAX Enhanced" version of IM1 Disney totally cheated by selectively alternating back and forth between the theatrical and TV versions for select scenes to give the illusion of a shifting ratio IMAX experience.
Okay since apparently your SW knowledge exceeds my own please do tell how you came by this information that contradicts every interview/making of book/documentary/director's commentary of the films that I've ever come across.What? Literally what? The ST was the KK/story groups project
