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I'm triple Pfizer. First was OK, second I was bad for a day after. Booster knocked me out for the best part of a week. Body aches, nausea, all that stuff plus heart palpitations - felt awful!
My younger brother got palpitations after his 2nd Pfizer. He was concerned enough about them that he went to the doctor who referred him to a specialist but I don't think any treatment was needed, as far as I know it resolved on its own. He wasn't satisfied with the specialist's answer on the booster though and so far has not gotten one. And neither have I for the time being because I think I too had palpitations - at least mild ones - a slight on and off fluttery sensation right in the center of the chest.
 
My younger brother got palpitations after his 2nd Pfizer. He was concerned enough about them that he went to the doctor who referred him to a specialist but I don't think any treatment was needed, as far as I know it resolved on its own. He wasn't satisfied with the specialist's answer on the booster though and so far has not gotten one. And neither have I for the time being because I think I too had palpitations - at least mild ones - a slight on and off fluttery sensation right in the center of the chest.
Same thing happened to my cousin. Suffered for a few months now, told to just get on with it. 😬
 
I'm guessing it's more common than it says in the current literature. That said perhaps anti-vax alarmists also overstate how serious a problem it is when it happens. I dunno.
 
I'm guessing it's more common than it says in the current literature. That said perhaps anti-vax alarmists also overstate how serious a problem it is when it happens. I dunno.
First I've heard of this. The very worst thing I've seen is 2 or 3 people I know had 24 hours of feverish aches from AZ. And I hang out with a f*** ton of vaxxers. They're my people. :lecture
 
But but but the action holds it back
Yes but I do really like the direction they took the story. The movie felt more dreamlike and in some ways had more in common with Vanilla Sky than its predecessors which I actually found myself appreciating.
45 minutes until Fett! :yess:
Hell yeah!! :rock
 
I totally like this movie now, lol.
Yes but I do really like the direction they took the story.

The movie felt more dreamlike and in some ways had more in common with Vanilla Sky than its predecessors which I actually found myself appreciating.
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Whole annoying meta story line.I did not like it. it didn't feel Matrix.
 
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This movie was so bad, I believe the theory that it was intentionally bad as commentary on movie franchises and sequels.

I thought Reloaded and Revolutions were good, not as bad as others have made them out to be, but at least they had stakes with cool action. This one had zero stakes. The story was "I want to rescue Trinity, she may not want to be rescued but I want to try because I need her" that's a lolwut for me. Why did they pull Neo out in the first place? They already told us there was peace between humans and the machines, what did they need Neo for?

Resurrections didn't even look like a Matrix movie. What happened to the green tint in the Matrix and the blue tint in the real world? The movie didn't even look like a movie, it looked more like a video game, maybe that was the point, but none of it looked real.

The setup was intriguing, the McFarlane figures around the office was fun. But the movie just tanked once Neo was pulled back out of the Matrix.

It may seem like a petty complaint, but I don't get why Keanu doesn't change his hairstyle. He shaved for the 'real world' scenes, so I don't understand why Neo looks like John Wick.
 
Why did they pull Neo out in the first place? They already told us there was peace between humans and the machines, what did they need Neo for?
I had similar questions when I first saw the film. From what I understand, some of the machines eventually broke the truce because too many blue pills were given their freedom, which caused an energy problem. This led to a war between the machines, and the creation of a new Matrix where humans were imprisoned again without the option to leave. The new Matrix is using Neo and Trinity as its source of power because they carry the anomaly or whatever. So, while there's some peace between humans and machines, the Matrix still exists, Neo is still alive and subconsciously trying to wake up. I think that's...it. :lol
Resurrections didn't even look like a Matrix movie. What happened to the green tint in the Matrix and the blue tint in the real world?
The green tint was gone by the end of Revolutions when the Matrix was rebooted. The current Matrix in Resurrections is a new simulation.

As for the blue tint in the real world, maybe it looks different because Zion is gone. They live in a new human city, so that might explain the new choice in lighting.
The movie didn't even look like a movie, it looked more like a video game, maybe that was the point, but none of it looked real.
I'm not sure about this one. The street where the Analyst lived looked very artificial. I remember noticing that in the trailer.
It may seem like a petty complaint, but I don't get why Keanu doesn't change his hairstyle. He shaved for the 'real world' scenes, so I don't understand why Neo looks like John Wick.

A lot of people felt the same way. I don't think there's a reason for it, other than that's what Keanu looks like now. In the original trilogy Neo looked like Keanu did at the time. Then there's the whole savior G Zeus thing, but I don't think that has anything to do with it.
 
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I had similar questions when I first saw the film. From what I understand, some of the machines eventually broke the truce because too many blue pills were given their freedom, which caused an energy problem. This led to a war between the machines, and the creation of a new Matrix where humans were imprisoned again without the option to leave. The new Matrix is using Neo and Trinity as its source of power because they carry the anomaly or whatever. So, while there's some peace between humans and machines, the Matrix still exists, Neo is still alive and subconsciously trying to wake up. I think that's...it. :lol

Since you seem to understand what was going on in this movie, what was up with Morpheus/Smith? Why was the program who thought it was Morpheus, playing Smith's role in the intro, and subsequently why did Morpheus turn out to be nanobots? If Morpheus was nanobots the whole time, why was he Smith at the beginning? Then it turned out that the actual Smith was his boss?

As I talk myself through this, I think the answer is that the beginning of the movie was inside the video game, which for all intents and purposes is not related to the rest of the movie. The intro to the movie was actually a video game inside the Matrix. This is some Inception levels of meta. But I guess then the question is why would Neo create a game in which his nemesis is played by his mentor?
 
I would be more forgiving of the new direction had the action been better.

This movie couldn’t even match action movies from before the original Matrix.

The boretrix.
This…. I find the 2nd film to be watchable due to the great action scenes.

apparently the other Wachowski Sister was the one with all the talent
 
Since you seem to understand what was going on in this movie, what was up with Morpheus/Smith? Why was the program who thought it was Morpheus, playing Smith's role in the intro, and subsequently why did Morpheus turn out to be nanobots? If Morpheus was nanobots the whole time, why was he Smith at the beginning? Then it turned out that the actual Smith was his boss?

As I talk myself through this, I think the answer is that the beginning of the movie was inside the video game, which for all intents and purposes is not related to the rest of the movie. The intro to the movie was actually a video game inside the Matrix. This is some Inception levels of meta. But I guess then the question is why would Neo create a game in which his nemesis is played by his mentor?

This video explains the new Morpheus and what exactly was happening during the intro. Just ignore the ending of the video where it talks about Neo not being Neo. That's just a theory.



As for Morpheus becoming nanobots, that only happens after he takes the red pill given to him by Bugs. Once unplugged, he like other machines can be in the real world using that new nanobot technology. That's the way I understood it.
 
This…. I find the 2nd film to be watchable due to the great action scenes.

apparently the other Wachowski Sister was the one with all the talent
The second And third movie "matrix" sequences are really the only good things about them, hahaha the real world stuff sucks
 

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It's true. I'm not trolling or being ironic. After learning the real behind the scenes power play that WB was making to the Wachowskis I stopped seeing the film as just a flippant mockery of the series' prior success and was instead Lana seemingly saying, "No way am I gonna let them take my beloved story and give it to Joss Whedon or JJ Abrams. No way am I gonna be George Lucas or James Cameron watching others take my characters off in directions that I don't want them to go. Fine, I'll continue the story but it's gonna be my way and if my disgust over the present situation comes through in the final product then so be it."

Angry or agonizing artists often tell really compelling stories. And I think that's the case here.

I also picked up on quite a few things that I missed the first time around.

I didn't realize that seemingly half the population in the Matrix were AI bots. That's why the husband jumped out the window and not the wife. She was human, he wasn't.

I appreciated the new Smith much more this time around. His role clicked with me better on a second viewing as well. The Analyst recreated him to be Neo's foil if the Resistance ever came for him again. Then in the event that humans show up to extract him Business Partner Smith's dormant Agent programming activates so that he can kill Neo before he gets out. Then they resurrect him again, reboot and reskin him with a new digital self image to start all over again. Forever. And since this new Smith was *not* a continuation of the previous Smith's "sentience" I no longer mind him not looking like Weaving. In fact the only characters played by the original actors were those who actually were the same characters from the previous films (aside from Sati I'm guessing, lol.) So to me the recast works.

I kind of got the vibe that Trinity probably looked different to everyone but Neo as well. Which might have been why her husband laughed when she asked him if she looked like the girl in the game.

Changing the Matrix so that it's no longer this hidden thing that people wonder about in the back of their minds but rather an in your face world famous gaming experience so as to gaslight anyone who might be inclined to suggest that the whole world is living *inside* the same game that they're all playing is absolute genius IMO. I mean think about that in real life. We've all heard those philosophical musings of "what if the reality as we know it is really just a dream, how would we know?" And questions like that can be fun to discuss. But then imagine walking up to your buddies and going, "actually I think we might all really be in a false reality, and I think that it's the reality from the Matrix movies starring Keanu Reeves!" To claim that we were all collectively sharing an experience widely known to be a very specific pop culture fantasy would have you instantly written off as a grade A loon. So that's exactly what the machines did...

And then in addition to making the mere thought of questioning the matrix laughable the Analyst wisely gave Neo and Trinity pretty good lives. He got to be this awesome video game mogul and she got to have a picture perfect family. I loved the Analyst's line about how 99.9% of people spend half their time clinging to what they have and yearning for what they don't, constantly torn between fear and desire. Because it's totally true.

Yes the film was lacking in major action pieces but I think my two favorite scenes in the movie might be Neo and Trinity's coffee date and the Analyst's speech in the garage. And I'm not saying that to further diss the action I just really really like those scenes!

I liked when Neo said that he probably put too much of himself into the game. I picture Lana acknowledging that maybe he went to far in that same regard.

Or undercover Sati in the programmer's meeting speaking up about how she doesn't think that mindless action was what the Matrix (game) was really about. It made me wonder of Lana was the more philosophical of the two siblings and that without the other Wachowski that's a part of the reason the movie took a more philosophical and dreamlike slant overall. Who's to say but I can't deny that things like this are fun to ponder.

How does a movie with a character named Bugs utter the line "what's up doc" totally straight and NOT be cringy??? I don't know but I cracked a smile and wasn't bothered in the slightest.

Or have a line like "he's turning the bots into bombs!" A reference to the notion of bot driven review bombs? Don't know but that's pretty freaking hilarious if it is and it went totally over my head the first time through.

I get that many have written this off as another ST (though the RT audience score is pretty forgiving if that is the case) and I was right there with you! But then I laughed at the bit about the building being evacuated possibly due to "some 14 year old being mad about the latest update." Ha ha, I guess I was that 14 year old last week in response to this film, lol.

And did the Merovingian really shout to Neo, "This isn't over! I'll see you in a franchise spinoff!" Again played totally straight and not as a fourth wall wink to the audience! Again I get it if this stuff rubs anyone the wrong way but I've just had such a paradigm shift.

And man that one moment where they're rescuing Trinity and right outside her pod they have in a single shot Sati, Morpheus, two friendly floating mechanical creatures, Trinity and Bugs. Just consider the imagination all on display in that one moment. A glowing red hologram AI, swirling codex AI, a birdlike robot, a buglike robot, gooey pod human and a regular human! *That's* what I sign up for when I walk into a movie theater that's showing the ongoing story of the Matrix. :yess: Awesome stuff.

And as I said before I really like that this movie does feel like a true extension of the previous three, with Neo and Trinity still center stage and a good number of nice twists and turns and things to ponder both during and after the fact.
 
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You catch a brief, blink and you miss it, flash of Trinity's appearance in a reflection on a table in the coffee shop, same as Neo's. It's a middle aged woman with long, light hair. So yes, nobody knows Tom and Tiff look anything like Neo or Trinity.
I kind of got the vibe that Trinity probably looked different to everyone but Neo as well. Which might have been why her husband laughed when she asked him if she looked like the girl in the game.
 
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