The Batman (June 25, 2021)

[jye4ever]

Amazing how a thread about the most masculine of superhero male fantasies conjures up discussions on the most effeminate of pop culture creations lol

 

[Candlelight]

Amazing how a thread about the most masculine of superhero male fantasies conjures up discussions on the most effeminate of pop culture creations lol

 

[ZE_501]

Thanks for sharing man.

But beyond memes, there are some people for whom life is victory or death. Even if it's not realistic or even possible, they're rather just burn than settle. How wise that is... debatable.

This ...fatalism...absolutism...I often see in young men is troubling. Because I've discovered that there are aspects of life that are strictly experiential. You can't really describe them accurately, they need to be lived to be believed. There are doors that you can't unlock because you can't see them from where you are.

I often use martial arts metaphors or discuss my experiences because it was amongst the most difficult and most rewarding things I've ever done, and illustrates perfectly the idea of transformation and impermanence in a positive sense.

I don't actually view it as a panacea or a way to 'get girls' or whatever. Life is life and has inherent difficulties and complications, but when I see young people (or adults for that matter) stuck in a rut because they can't imagine life ever being different, that's what alarms me.

The thing that many miss is that they set something very material, treat it as a higher ideal, and sacrifice the good for the great they'll never be able to get. That's where the problem arises.

Definitely. I was never going to make it to the Olympics because while I didn't suck, I was mediocre. But if I hadn't bothered because of that, I would never have reaped the extraordinary experiences and incredible benefits of the path that ran parallel to those elite few I trained and sweated beside. I also saw that they had their own problems and challenges.

Insularity and static states are dangerous. Movement, risk and aspiration are their own reward. I see young people come to the gym for the first time and get overwhelmed. They think I came out of the womb with my current capabilities. I always tell them "Just show up" -- there is no secret or shortcut. I couldn't do 3 chin-ups when I walked into a gym the first time, much less travel to another country to get in a fight with a stranger in front of a screaming crowd. You can't buy experience with anything other than time, sweat and pain.

 

[Candlelight]

A calzone is a basically a folded pizza

sometimes it usually has more toppings inside. more cheese

 

[Johnny Utah]

Christ this thread derailed quickly.

 

[ZE_501]

Well for one thing, me and @darthkostis are in here.

 

[Victοr]

Amazing how a thread about the most masculine of superhero male fantasies conjures up discussions on the most effeminate of pop culture creations lol

All superheroes probably have more fujo fanfics than actual straight male fans at this point. The things I've seen...

This ...fatalism...absolutism...I often see in young men is troubling. Because I've discovered that there are aspects of life that are strictly experiential. You can't really describe them accurately, they need to be lived to be believed. There are doors that you can't unlock because you can't see them from where you are.

It's not just men, it's women too. If anything the current situation is a lot of men opting out completely, while women turn into the extremelly short-term materialism of perceived success, even when that is nothing but an anthill. The "girlboss" type is as much a problem as the "doomer".

I often use martial arts metaphors or discuss my experiences because it was amongst the most difficult and most rewarding things I've ever done, and illustrates perfectly the idea of transformation and impermanence in a positive sense.

I don't actually view it as a panacea or a way to 'get girls' or whatever. Life is life and has inherent difficulties and complications, but when I see young people (or adults for that matter) stuck in a rut because they can't imagine life ever being different, that's what alarms me.

I think the bottom line is that this is a specifically unique period in human history. There's no trends or patents to fall back on and more or less see where things will go. The weirder it becomes, the more certain people find comfort and escape in extremes. For some it's giving up, which is certainly "easy". It'll still screw you up emotionally, but it's the path of least resistance. If there's a light at the end of the tunnel... I honestly don't know.

Definitely. I was never going to make it to the Olympics because while I didn't suck, I was mediocre. But if I hadn't bothered because of that, I would never have reaped the extraordinary experiences and incredible benefits of the path that ran parallel to those elite few I trained and sweated beside. I also saw that they had their own problems and challenges.

Insularity and static states are dangerous. Movement, risk and aspiration are their own reward. I see young people come to the gym for the first time and get overwhelmed. They think I came out of the womb with my current capabilities. I always tell them "Just show up" -- there is no secret or shortcut. I couldn't do 3 chin-ups when I walked into a gym the first time, much less travel to another country to get in a fight with a stranger in front of a screaming crowd. You can't buy experience with anything other than time, sweat and pain.

I hear you. The problem I think is the difference in generations. The current grows up seeing every prodigy blasted on their face 24/7, seeing their highest highs and never any of their lows or general weaknesses compared to their strengths. That shapes their character in such a way that it becomes an all-or-nothing battle. Those who can handle the heat are more often than not lost in the race for more. There's no real specific goal in their mind anymore, no higher calling, it's grinding just for the perceived importance. Those who cannot cut it just give up. I like to believe that a sizeable majority manages to find balance, but I'm not so sure... It's funny. Back in the day Fight Club was seen as a teenager's wet dream with a superficial take on things. Society kept on changing though, and in many ways I'd argue it's more relevant than ever. If anything, it's sort of a utopic dream nowadays.

But yeah, point still stands; lots of people give up or get lost in the grind. Not in the struggle, the material grind. There's a show, Billions. I've been watching since the first episode. It was schlocky wealth porn then, and it somehow got worse each season, but I'm still keeping up. Anyway, one of the MCs was Axe, a "bad-ass" pop culture & sports trivia machine full of quips, lots of uses of "****" and whose main driving force was to make money because... that was all he had. By the time he left the show in S5, he'd become dreadfully boring because there was literally nothing else to his character bar "me wanna make money cuz me grew up poor; me a shark". Now they've got another guy taking his place, Mike Prince (played by Corey Stroll; bad guy from Ant-Man), who has a different air, specific goals beyond the wealth itself and I've come to enjoy him much more.

The point of that "story" is that for a lot of people Axe was their hero. Same way Gekko was for another generation. And even if we're not talking about easily impressionable teenagers, there are a lot of men and women in this age that adopt the same lifestyle. It's drive for something meaningless since there's no light at the end of that tunnel. There's no plan or specific goal, no higher ideal, it's a fight for a knife in the dirt. Some enter the ring, some walk away. None of them truly get "it".

Where this goes from here, I don't know. But the type you're describing, the person who recognises his strengths and weaknesses and tries to live a fullfiling life by taking the appropriate risks, is in a very delicate spot, to say the least.

 

[Candlelight]

Christ this thread derailed quickly.

it's always calmest just before the storm

 

[Mondragon]

 

[Candlelight]

wow what's the context

 

[matticus]

Amazing how a thread about the most masculine of superhero male fantasies conjures up discussions on the most effeminate of pop culture creations lol

Kostis is coming.

Christ this thread derailed quickly.

Kostis is coming.

Well for one thing, me and @darthkostis are in here.

Oh no. He's here:

All superheroes probably have more fujo fanfics than actual straight male fans at this point. The things I've seen...

it's always calmest just before the storm

This is the storm.

 

[The Clown Prince of Crime]

it's always calmest just before the storm

Batman is totally looking at her boobs. That's why he wears those white lenses.

 

[punisher1974]

Batman is totally looking at her boobs. That's why he wears those white lenses.

And now we know why he wears a cape. To hide his Bat Erection. There you go Wor-Gar his cape is justified

 

[Mondragon]

wow what's the context

Batman #9 Xmas they are trying to exonerate some kids dad whose falsely accused, by taking down a gang, some goon working lookout, dresses as Santa and rings the bell as warning when Batman shows up.
After they take down the gang, and free the dad, Batman needs a Santa to show up at the orphanage, so he forces him to do it

 

[Candlelight]

And now we know why he wears a cape. To hide his Bat Erection. There you go Wor-Gar his cape is justified

butt erection?

 

[Victοr]

Kostis is coming.

Kostis is coming.

Oh no. He's here:

Trust me, I've seen things...

it's always calmest just before the storm

God, that was a great design.

What's the point of living if you're not Chad & Stacy? Jdimsa...

 

[The Clown Prince of Crime]

butt erection?

 

[Candlelight]

Batman is totally looking at her boobs. That's why he wears those white lenses.

 

[Mondragon]

Was that a Batarang I saw, or you just happy to see me?
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[Wor-Gar]

To hide his Bat Erection. There you go Wor-Gar his cape is justified

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