Predator 5 - Prey (2022)

[Wor-Gar]

"Only in the hottest years this happens- and this year, it grows hot."
They now show up whenever.

Including the Arctic.

 

[JacktheRipper]

I see this and I don't know why:

 

[Wor-Gar]

I think "extreme weather" would've allowed for more creative freedom, but Hollywood and Dark Horse clearly went ahead on that without Busey's blessing. Predator in Antarctica and Siberia were cool ideas.

"It comes when its hot... or very, very cold... or windy. Yes, the winds are high. Or when the leaves fall, and all is dead. Or during rain. It hides in rain. And fog. And dusty times. Yes... "

 

[Wor-Gar]

It was pitched that way, but part of the gimmick was that a team of heavily-armed bodybuilders couldn't beat the thing.

Yes, but in 1987 that was already partly done in 1986's Aliens.

There's some interesting ties with Predator and Cameron besides Arnold. Like the Stan Winston's mandibles story. I'm sure you know this.

 

[MeatHookGekko]

Nothing woke here. She was a well written character that I pulled for because she was believable and relatable.

So many films could learn a lesson from this movie.

Simple story

Focusing on characters

Progression/Growth of main character

I would say Prey simply reverted back to core storytelling/filmmaking that was abandoned for years and years for woke.


Trachtenberg went out of his way to insert a few close to woke elements to appease that crowd. Which is about what I think most audiences can hope for nowadays - Just elements but not enough to take over the entire plotline. I don't know if he got final cut over trailers though. If not, the studio edited that trailer thus highlighted the woke section (i.e. "I want to be a hunter because everyone says I can't")

I do appreciate that everyone made the best decisions they could given the situation. The characters weren't doing dumb things just to drive the story forward.

What might be jarring is Midthunder is too attractive the way the production did her hair and makeup and such. She looks more like a modern person in period garb than someone from that era. Taylor Sheridan's 1883 kind of had that problem. Isabel May was so attractive and she looked so "modern" in her appeal, that it started to crack suspension of disbelief.

I do hope this means more films will focus on simpler themes and plots but push harder to give more complex characters. I appreciate this film didn't try to "talk out" everything like many other films.

It was brisk and got to the point. Like Midnight Mass did. So that also was a nice change of pace.

Good film. Be interesting to see a Predator figure coming from this movie.

 

[MGS_OldBoy57]

This movie definitely feels like a reset from where other filmmakers were trying to take this franchise. Hunter vs Hunter, as it should be.

 

[jye4ever]

 

[Khev]

Simple story

Focusing on characters

Progression/Growth of main character

I would say Prey simply reverted back to core storytelling/filmmaking that was abandoned for years and years for woke.


Trachtenberg went out of his way to insert a few close to woke elements to appease that crowd. Which is about what I think most audiences can hope for nowadays - Just elements but not enough to take over the entire plotline. I don't know if he got final cut over trailers though. If not, the studio edited that trailer thus highlighted the woke section (i.e. "I want to be a hunter because everyone says I can't")

I do appreciate that everyone made the best decisions they could given the situation. The characters weren't doing dumb things just to drive the story forward.

What might be jarring is Midthunder is too attractive the way the production did her hair and makeup and such. She looks more like a modern person in period garb than someone from that era. Taylor Sheridan's 1883 kind of had that problem. Isabel May was so attractive and she looked so "modern" in her appeal, that it started to crack suspension of disbelief.

I do hope this means more films will focus on simpler themes and plots but push harder to give more complex characters. I appreciate this film didn't try to "talk out" everything like many other films.

It was brisk and got to the point. Like Midnight Mass did. So that also was a nice change of pace.

Good film. Be interesting to see a Predator figure coming from this movie.

I'm not even sure that the "close to woke elements" as you call them would even be seen as woke in any other era though. I mean P2 had Maria Conchita Alonso bringing Bill Paxton to his knees with one squeeze of her hand and people laughed without anyone complaining that a minority woman got the best of a toxic white male (which is no doubt how that scene would be perceived today.)

And did Naru want to become a hunter because "everyone said she couldn't?" I assumed that she just wanted to be a hunter because that was what interested her. Even if she did want to become that just to prove people wrong well that was Rudy's motivation for wanting to play football at Notre Dame (and countless other films) and no one ever cried foul about that.

As long as a movie's message isn't "so and so is better BECAUSE she's a female or such and such race and/or sexuality" then I'm fine with any level of diversity as long as it is organic. Hell I wasn't expecting there to be any white people in this movie and was fully prepared to enjoy it with that in mind.

 

[greygoose]

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[Rotfish]

Yes, but in 1987 that was already partly done in 1986's Aliens.

There's some interesting ties with Predator and Cameron besides Arnold. Like the Stan Winston's mandibles story. I'm sure you know this.

Yessir. Arnold even recommended SWS to the production team after their problems with Van Damme's insect suit.

Sounded like Hollywood was such a small world back then. I guess it's still relatively small today, but not quite as.

 

[Jake207]

^^^ MGS_oldboy Well said after watching Prey it easily takes the third spot after P1/P2. Leagues above everything filmed after 1990 in Yautja world. I think it's a shame Disney didn't released it in theaters because I think it could fetch way more money and recognition which is always a good thing for the franchise. So far this year I was wrong about two movies Top Gun Maverick and Prey both movies turned out to be a worthy companions to the originals. Dan Trachtenberg you are my new friend. Would not mind having that Predator in 1/4 scale by NECA...

 

[Khev]

Yessir. Arnold even recommended SWS to the production team after their problems with Van Damme's insect suit.

Sounded like Hollywood was such a small world back then. I guess it's still relatively small today, but not quite as.

And in case you didn't know James Cameron co-wrote Rambo so ALIENS was already very much a 'Rambo meets ALIEN" movie which was a theme continued by Predator. Predator just doubled down on the "bodybuilder" aspect of Rambo while ALIENS focused on the grittier aspects of the Viet Nam war.

 

[choombaz]

AVP is unacceptable and should be burned with fire.

i agree Wor-Gar

 

[chrisstbh]

AVP is unacceptable and should be burned with fire.

Wrong

 

[Johnny Utah]

P2 is cheese, but the City Hunter design is great, and the film has nice scattered moments.

Killing the Jamaicans, killing Willie, the subway fight and the meathouse part were great.

 

[choombaz]

Wrong

Is that like a

kind of wrong?

 

[Wor-Gar]

Yautja world.

I never did decide if I liked that name... or not.

 

[lordnastrond]

Just finished the movie and I have to say I LOVED it.
For me this is the best movie since the original.

Great characters, great story and themes, awesome cinematography, I loved the soundtrack, I think Naru is the most interesting protagonist in the series (yes including Dutch - I'm not afraid to say it) I also really like the Predator - its weapons, its mask, its more creative kills, yes I even liked how it looked under the mask - though it is inferior to the original design it must be said.

Very excited for the sequel.
Very, VERY excited to finally be excited about this IP again!!!!

 

[lordnastrond]

As bad a Predator 2 may be, it's a better experience than The Predator.

It doesn't take much for one turd to float above the rest.

I jest.... somewhat.
I actually enjoy Predator 2 - its massively inferior to the original and Prey - but I frankly think its leagues above Shane Blacks The Predator which probably makes my list for worst movie sequels ever - by god is that film crap... I say that as someone who also enjoys watching AVP and Predators when I'm in the mood despite their flaws.

 

[jye4ever]

Nothing and I mean nothing in this series beats the P2 predator buffing Willie’s skull with a buffer in the alley that skull comes out sparkling clean and white

That and Maria wearing a long coat during the LA heat lol