LOST discussion - thar be spoilers ahead!

[beeshaw]

Spoiler tags never hurt.

Great episode!! I just can't believe not a hint of Ben or Richard though.

Loved the sidways dialogue between Jack and Mr. Locke.

 

[Maglor]

Loved the sidways dialogue between Jack and Mr. Locke.

Oooh yes! That was great too! I am just totally digging this episode!

 

[pixletwin]

The part where jack says to Locke

Spoiler:

"I wish you had believed me" and makes Locke stop for just a second

sent chills down my spine.

 

[Maglor]

Yeah, I'm wondering how much John remembered. He was at least dreaming the other universe, and what Jack said seemed to spark something in his subconscious.

Wonder why he isn't wondering outright. I mean, he had his 'near death experience.'

 

[beeshaw]

sent chills down my spine.

No pun intended? Lol

 

[barryo]

to quote Darth Caedus

 

[Moonloop]

Just to play it safe for the next 24 hrs....courtesy to those who haven't seen the new episode yet.

Spoiler:

I thought it was very selfish of Jin to basically kill himself. Why? Because his daughter needs a father, now she will grow up with no parent, only a grandmother. Sun was screwed, she was done for and yet Jin, nor Sun even mentioned "Ji Yeon needs me/you....go and be with her!" While their death scene was very sad and emotional, I never cared for either character and I thought they were weak characters in the show. I think Sun should have died in an early season and then Jin could have grown as a stronger central character in the show. Not trying to be mean, but I am glad they are 'out of the way' for the rest of the season.

Did Sayid say to Jack, "you are him" or something like that; I think he is referring to Jack being THE candidate or the one to take over for Jacob. Sayid's death was good. I saw that coming and I actually predicted that Sayid was going to die tonight, his story just hit a dead end last episode.

 

[beeshaw]

Just to play it safe for the next 24 hrs....courtesy to those who haven't seen the new episode yet.

Spoiler:

I thought it was very selfish of Jin to basically kill himself. Why? Because his daughter needs a father, now she will grow up with no parent, only a grandmother. Sun was screwed, she was done for and yet Jin, nor Sun even mentioned "Ji Yeon needs me/you....go and be with her!" While their death scene was very sad and emotional, I never cared for either character and I thought they were weak characters in the show. I think Sun should have died in an early season and then Jin could have grown as a stronger central character in the show. Not trying to be mean, but I am glad they are 'out of the way' for the rest of the season.

Did Sayid say to Jack, "you are him" or something like that; I think he is referring to Jack being THE candidate or the one to take over for Jacob. Sayid's death was good. I saw that coming and I actually predicted that
Sayid was going to die tonight, his story just hit a dead end last
episode.

Spoiler:

Sayid said to Jack: It's going to be you.

And I agree with pretty much everything you said. I 'mirror' your feelings.


Now where the hell is Ben??!!

 

[Darth Waller]

Spoiler:

Wasn't Sayid supposed to be evil? I don't get why he would save everyone on the sub.

 

[Darth Snoopy]

Last night's episode was awesome for me!

Can't wait to see next weeks episode...is it here yet?!?

 

[LOTRFan]

Spoiler:

Wasn't Sayid supposed to be evil? I don't get why he would save everyone on the sub.

My nit as well, he was "poisoned" or whatever, how can he all of a sudden turn "good."

 

[tomandshell]

I think that Sayid's character has always gone back and forth on the good/evil spectrum. He tries to resist his violent tendencies, then somebody tells him he's a killer and asks him to do a little dirty work, which he does (often with some justification). Then he has some guilt/remorse and tries to change. Lather, rinse, repeat.

I don't think his "infection" was terminal, and he still had his free will, as always. His conscience was numbed throughout much of this season, but I think that his chat with Desmond did him some good--and we saw tonight that he still had the capacity to choose to help/save his friends.

Spoiler:

I also thought that his fate gave us an interesting and ironic twist on the stereotypical Iraqi suicide bomber image.

 

[beeshaw]

Spoiler:

Wasn't Sayid supposed to be evil? I don't get why he would save everyone on the sub.

He was evil because he was told and convinced he was by MIB. Then Desmond had a little chat with him and convinced him otherwise.

 

[Lembas Eater]

My nit as well, he was "poisoned" or whatever, how can he all of a sudden turn "good."

I believe Hurley covered this with the comment that "anyone can come back from the dark side. Like Anakin." lol

I also noticed that he was watching Smokey very closely, always questioning him as to what was going on, etc. It seems to me that he'd been weighing this the entire time.

 

[Maglor]

Just to play it safe for the next 24 hrs....courtesy to those who haven't seen the new episode yet.

Spoiler:

I thought it was very selfish of Jin to basically kill himself. Why? Because his daughter needs a father, now she will grow up with no parent, only a grandmother. Sun was screwed, she was done for and yet Jin, nor Sun even mentioned "Ji Yeon needs me/you....go and be with her!" While their death scene was very sad and emotional, I never cared for either character and I thought they were weak characters in the show. I think Sun should have died in an early season and then Jin could have grown as a stronger central character in the show. Not trying to be mean, but I am glad they are 'out of the way' for the rest of the season.

Did Sayid say to Jack, "you are him" or something like that; I think he is referring to Jack being THE candidate or the one to take over for Jacob. Sayid's death was good. I saw that coming and I actually predicted that Sayid was going to die tonight, his story just hit a dead end last episode.

You make a good point about Ji Yeon. Didn't they specifically mention that she was with her grandmother in this episode. Maybe that was meant to ease our mind on the subject.

Last night's episode was awesome for me!

Can't wait to see next weeks episode...is it here yet?!?

I think that Sayid's character has always gone back and forth on the good/evil spectrum. He tries to resist his violent tendencies, then somebody tells him he's a killer and asks him to do a little dirty work, which he does (often with some justification). Then he has some guilt/remorse and tries to change. Lather, rinse, repeat.

I don't think his "infection" was terminal, and he still had his free will, as always. His conscience was numbed throughout much of this season, but I think that his chat with Desmond did him some good--and we saw tonight that he still had the capacity to choose to help/save his friends.

Spoiler:

I also thought that his fate gave us an interesting and ironic twist on the stereotypical Iraqi suicide bomber image.

I agree with all of that. As Sayid said: "No I am not a zombie." So his true self was in there, it just needed someone to draw it out. And that someone was Desmond.

Spoiler:

Is this new 24 hour spoiler tag a new rule that I somehow missed. Seems like 2 weeks ago people were posting whatever they wanted to the night of, as long as it was past 9:00 eastern time. I know not everyone in the world will have seen it by then, and some people with DVR might not see it for a few days, but it seems like common sense to avoid a tread with "spoiler" in the title after the announced time of the show if you haven't seen it yet. That said, if it is 'the will of the council', I will happily use spoiler tags for 24 hours after air time.

 

[Nuka Cola Kidd]

Sayid also has always been a man of redemption.

 

[pixletwin]

Now where the hell are Desmond and Ben?

 

[Moonloop]

Spoiler:

Is this new 24 hour spoiler tag a new rule that I somehow missed. Seems like 2 weeks ago people were posting whatever they wanted to the night of, as long as it was past 9:00 eastern time. I know not everyone in the world will have seen it by then, and some people with DVR might not see it for a few days, but it seems like common sense to avoid a tread with "spoiler" in the title after the announced time of the show if you haven't seen it yet. That said, if it is 'the will of the council', I will happily use spoiler tags for 24 hours after air time.

No it's not a rule. But concerning the magnitude of what happened in this episode we are trying to play it safe for those who haven't seen it yet.

With that said, all must be warned that for the rest of the season once an episode airs don't expect spoiler tags. So if you miss the show and watch it the next day or it airs later for you than other places.....avoid this thread until you see each new episode!!!

 

[tomandshell]

Now where the hell are Desmond and Ben?

Desmond is still in that well, and it seems that Jack and MIB will be racing each other to get there.

Ben, Richard and Miles left a few weeks ago to get some explosives from the barracks and then head to Hydra Island to blow up the plane. I totally expected to see them this week, but no such luck. (Ben is a great character that has been terribly underused this season, and Richard's promotion to full time cast member hasn't paid off like I anticipated.)

Normally, I would expect an upcoming episode that plays catch up from their perspective, showing them rig the explosives in the plane and then maybe get captured by Widmore. (Maybe Richard was the one who gave his former leader the list of candidates. I'd like to see their reunion.)

But with so little time left on the show, I fear we might not have a spare episode to focus on these guys.

 

[SwedishHeat]

I had a dream that the finale ends with them floating along a river to a small shanty town and there's multiple old versions of all the characters that have died on the show, all wandering aimlessly down a path, like they're walking away from the town. They showed Old Locke, Old Sun and Jin.

And then I jumped up and down yelling "I was right, oh yeah, I was right." Then, I woke up.