Avengers: Age of Ultron (May 1st, 2015)

[MaulFan]

Oh yeah that bathing pool scene sticks out..ughhhh. No one I have talked to has no idea why that was even in it if you aren't going to explain 90% of WHY and WHAT

Simple formula really.

Studio Desired Scene + Director Undesired Scene = Confusing Viewer Edit

The studio pushed for it to setup and connect with Thor 3, Whedon didn't want it, the result is the film contains just enough of the scene to make the studio happy while having so little of it Whedon was happy, meantime we're all confused and left hating the scene, even with the cut material in the extended version, it's dumb, Whedon was right to not want it in there.

 

[a-dev]

Was wondering when people would begin raining on the parade ha

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There's been rain from the start on this one.

 

[Darth Snoopy]

Was wondering when people would begin raining on the parade ha

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Meh, it's only their opinion.

 

[jye4ever]

Ok, watched it for the 1st time since my 6 theater viewings last May.

Still very good and exciting, like MF said, that entire ending is spectacular, comic book come to life.

It took the combined efforts of Vision, Hulk, Thor, IM AND SW to take him out!

And Vision, Thor and IM had to attack him simultaneously to do it and he still got up after that to say that very funny "You know, with the benefit of hindsight" line.

The only thing that still bugs me with the movie is that Ultron had the time and resources to build his over complicated device to lift a chunk of earth.

Weren't there earth quakes in Sokovia while he was digging and escavating to place that huge vibranium core and repulsor thrusters.

Another thing that bugs me is the cgi when Ultron first places the mind stone onto Vision's forehead.

Couldn't they have just filmed a real actor with a practical Ultron forearm and hand placing a real stone onto a real Vision forehead cradle for the stone.

The cgi is too clean without any gravity.

 

[Shawpaw]

I actually liked it a little better the second time around. Still not great. Ultron had soooooo much potential. Disappointing in how toony he was. Really liked how they portray the vision.

 

[Neal136]

I picked the bluray up on Friday and watched the movie three times over the weekend. I loved it the first time I saw it in the theaters, thought it got even better with repeated viewings, and still love it on bluray.

 

[karamazov80]

Still very good and exciting, like MF said, that entire ending is spectacular, comic book come to life.

Yeah, but MFs will say anything.

 

[MegaPrime33]

If we're griping here, then mine has to be how silly Ultron was. Stop making jokes and be more serious at all times.

 

[jye4ever]

Yeah, but MFs will say anything.

 

[MaulFan]

Yeah, but MFs will say anything.

Not true , I still don't care for Ultron no matter how many time I watch, I get what he is and accept him more as that with each viewing, but he's a let down as a villain.

The idea of him being a mirror to Tony is interesting, but what you end up with is someone less sinister and almost just misguided in his actions. He does bad things out of a misguided view on how to execute his programming, but his evil comes off more like a computer error than his nature. He rips a man's arm off but then comes off as legitimately apologetic where someone like Loki would have done that and faked being apologetic to add insult to injury.

Had they delved deeper into the Strak-Ultron connection, it could have made for interesting story but the movie itself doesn't, other than a passing comment from Wanda that Cap dismisses almost as quick as he hears it other than running off to stop Tony.

I feel like the major issue with this movie from a story perspective is they try to touch upon a lot of ideas and don't give any one of them sufficient time and exploration. People have commented that the number of characters is a problem but I disagree, it's just what you do with them.

I don't object to the Banner-Widow romance, but with this many characters, you basically need a single plot and subplot, and hear we had the Ultron-Stark story, the Widow-Banner lover, Thor's quest, all interesting idea but half assed in the movie. If they'd picked just one and focused on it, I bet people would feel a lot different. That's one strength of the first Avengers over this one, the story was straight forward, the only real subplot was the Widow-Hawkeye backstory and it was covered well and weaved nicely through the overall story, it wasn't forced, it played well into the plot.

I was expecting each Avengers film to step up the evil and power of each villain with Infinity Wars being the worst of the worst, but so far Loki's the only villain who's felt like a true threat. Lotta weight on Thanos to deliver something good.

 

[LexiKon318]

Sure Ultron apologies after he rips Ulysses' arm off but he still kicks him down some stairs ha

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[Khev]

I was expecting each Avengers film to step up the evil and power of each villain with Infinity Wars being the worst of the worst, but so far Loki's the only villain who's felt like a true threat. Lotta weight on Thanos to deliver something good.

If Iron Man and Thor didn't destroy Ultron's makeshift meteor then the entire world would have been annihilated a few seconds later. The greatest threat in the first Avengers film was SHIELD's nuke, not Loki. All he did was blow up a bunch of parked cars. Even the nuke would have only taken out the city, not the world.

 

[jye4ever]

If Iron Man and Thor didn't destroy Ultron's makeshift meteor then the entire world would have been annihilated a few seconds later. The greatest threat in the first Avengers film was SHIELD's nuke, not Loki. All he did was blow up a bunch of parked cars. Even the nuke would have only taken out the city, not the world.

Humans, always ****ing their own species over.

 

[Khev]

Humans, always ****ing their own species over.

Cap (picking up SHIELD): "All right we waste it, no offense..."

 

[a-dev]

I understood that reference^

too lazy to post appropriate Cap meme

 

[MaulFan]

If Iron Man and Thor didn't destroy Ultron's makeshift meteor then the entire world would have been annihilated a few seconds later. The greatest threat in the first Avengers film was SHIELD's nuke, not Loki. All he did was blow up a bunch of parked cars. Even the nuke would have only taken out the city, not the world.

True, I guess I should have been more specific, I'm thinking in terms of direct threat against the Avengers themselves. Loki and Ultron both lead armies and use people, though Loki had to be more crafty, the Maximoffs were already anti-Stark and helped Ultron to exist. I expected Ultron to be a greater challenge to the Avengers, he just felt more like a different challenge, if anything Wanda did worse to them directly than Ultron.

I also feel like Loki is more threatening in his intentions, Ultron wants to wipe out humanity because he thinks it the answer to his programmed mission, Loki would do it for fun and power, no misguided illusion that good would come of it, which to me makes him a greater threat, Ultron can be reprogrammed but Loki's mind is what it is and there's no changing him.

 

[Khev]

I understood that reference^

I knew I could count on you.

 

[Bo Shrek]

Im not a comic guy (ie. I had no idea who Ultron was when they announced he would be the villian or who Vision was), but I’m learning the MCU through the movies. I do have most of the movies in my Blu Ray collection. Saw this in the theatres once and made the Blu ray purchase to add to my collection. Look forward to watching again.

Growing up as a kid I was a Star Wars guy so the only Marvel characters I knew were Hulk and Spiderman. Later I was able to recognize Thor, Punisher and Captain America at collectable stores but had no idea of their story lines!! Funny how Iron Man was a D lister character I had no idea of when they announce a feature film (I enjoy IM 1 & 2)

 

[jye4ever]

True, I guess I should have been more specific, I'm thinking in terms of direct threat against the Avengers themselves. Loki and Ultron both lead armies and use people, though Loki had to be more crafty, the Maximoffs were already anti-Stark and helped Ultron to exist. I expected Ultron to be a greater challenge to the Avengers, he just felt more like a different challenge, if anything Wanda did worse to them directly than Ultron.

I also feel like Loki is more threatening in his intentions, Ultron wants to wipe out humanity because he thinks it the answer to his programmed mission, Loki would do it for fun and power, no misguided illusion that good would come of it, which to me makes him a greater threat, Ultron can be reprogrammed but Loki's mind is what it is and there's no changing him.

Now this is an impressive comeback.

Khev got his work cut out for him.

 

[Khev]

Khev got his work cut out for him.

We just disagree, I don't need to convince him.

As far as a "direct threat against the Avengers themselves" Ultron was seconds away from creating an extinction level event which would have killed all life on earth, including all Avengers except Thor. At no point was Loki even close to wiping out the team. He got them to bicker and fight, but so did Ultron. And Hulk's rampage that was caused by Ultron's henchman(woman) was much more destructive than that caused by Loki's scepter.