**Beware SPOILERS** Obi-Wan Kenobi Series on Disney+ **Beware SPOILERS**

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This is exactly what I thought too, but for the opposite rationale.

I doubt she believes that the Kenobis are the two most amazing brothers in the galaxy.
Yeah. Maybe she remembered how much of a pain in the ass she was to Obi-Wan and just decided it'd be best not to bring that up, lol.

"Obi-Wan, you served my father in the Clone Wars and then were outed as a Force using Jedi because I kept running away when you were trying to hel--crap, nevermind. R2 erase that and let's start again," lol.
 
Me reading some of the long-winded posts in this thread...

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Less is more for me to make a character memorable.

Less dialogue, stillness, striking when necessary.

It's why I still remember villains like Eric Bana's Nero in Star Trek and the Bourne villains like Clive Owen, Karl Urban, Edgar Ramirez and Vincent Cassel.

It's like Denzel says...

'The loudest one in the room is the weakest one in the room.'

Reva was loud for sure.
 
Ok... So.. I see a lot of complaining.

IDK. I liked it and so far think its the best first two episodes of any of the SW series.

Other than some bad acting by the child actor I think she is written well and reminds me of the hard headed woman she will become.

I did not find it boring. IDK. It felt like SW again.

I like Mando but other then a few choice episodes in season 2, I think its highly over rated. BoBF as we all know was ****. But there were many times watching those two I did not feel like I was in the SW universe. Something was missing.

Maybe its having the show focus on Obi Wan and Leia that helps me. Maybe its because they have not ruined any other established characters from the OT (yet) but it was a solid two episodes IMO. Did a lot happen? No but I did not need a lot because it was great just to feel like I was in the SWU again and not whatever the hell BoBF was.


Things I loved
Obi Wan and Lars arguing.
Seeing life on Alderaan
Obi wan Finding out the Anakin is still alive (Ewen nailed the reaction)
Vader reveal

Things I liked
Other then some bad acting, seeing young leia
Previous younglings becoming the ones that are finding and killing the jedi.
The Villains.
While the music is not great at least it stands out and I can hear it. I think the Obi Wan theme will grow in us in time. I find JW latter SW themes need that. His melodies are not as in out face as they use to be. I watched the full credits to hear it and there are some good parts. Either way the score was not forced in the background like the other two series (especially BoBF)

Things I did not like
Bad Child Acting
Celebrity Cameos - Takes me out of the show every time and reminds me of the SW Holiday special. Where is Art Carney?? OT was mostly unknowns. So not to distract you. Getting Flea or Kumail Nanjiani just takes me out of the show and makes it feel more like we are not in a galaxy far far away. I thought both were fine but I would rather have unknows.


Thing I hated.
Leia being chased in the woods. Felt right out of the EWOK tv shows. it was as slow and awkward as the BoBF speeder chase. (Thats still the worst thing I have ever seen)


Overall I would give the first two episodes a B or B+ even.
Finally. Some positivity from my fav shark
 
Less is more for me to make a character memorable.

Less dialogue, stillness, striking when necessary.

It's why I still remember villains like Eric Bana's Nero in Star Trek and the Bourne villains like Clive Owen, Karl Urban, Edgar Ramirez and Vincent Cassel.

It's like Denzel says...

'The loudest one in the room is the weakest one in the room.'

Reva was loud for sure.
Show, don’t tell
 
I think it’s a stretch to instantly identify true sexists or racists from comments online about tv/movie characters these days when it’s far more likely they’re just critics of the industry’s admitted overt prioritisation of racial, sexual and gender identities above compelling or logical writing.

Most dissenters probably don’t understanding why they feel a certain way about these issues; they see that modern culture has it out for traditional values, masculinity and whiteness so (if they are any of those things) they feel threatened or unjustly targeted. Media is presenting their ’identity demographic’ as being less and less significant or deserving of recognition, elevating others at their expense, making them the subject of ridicule and shaming so the logical reactionary response is to hit back at the things that are replacing spaces once occupied by ‘their group.’

It’s pretty shocking how tribal the world is now and the progressive, postmodernist movement for supposed peace and equality among all is strongly to blame for epic degrees of division. The approach is completely counterproductive.

Anyways-
So there’s the one side of ‘would people criticise Reva if she wasn’t a black woman?’ and then the other side- that I would view as being more cynical than bigoted- asking ‘would this character even be a black woman who can stomp all over every male in the universe without repercussions if Disney weren’t pursuing an agenda- and are her abilities and intelligence earned or just obligatory to elevate a character from an ‘oppressed demographic?’
‘Why does this 10 year old child have the wisdom, insight and articulate speech of a tenured psychology professor?’
‘Why did Obi Wan need to be specifically told that a girl is just as important as a boy?’ ‘Is there something beyond entertainment at play here?’

It would be great to disengage from the reality of writing and casting decisions but entertainment now constantly markets itself above all else as being diverse, representational and insists that sci-fi and fantasy are supposed to hold up a mirror to society and reflect current issues to challenge our misconceptions. There’s no space for escapism anymore. All you find is activism masked as content and I think that’s a huge contributor to the negative sentiments you’ll find online.

Of course, it’s way too early in the Kenobi show to make these kinds of judgements without more backstory on the characters.

Reva appears brash, impulsive, disobedient - but she was always right. Her methods get quick results. She’s got rebel qualities so that’s kind of interesting for someone in a rigid, ruling regime and she appears far more aggressive and driven than the other Inquisitors. This hunt is personal for her.

Not sure if I’d buy any HTs from this show that don’t have direct ties to the OT or PT but some inquisitors may grown on me.
I think a lot of us are simply sick of the whole debate. Whoever they pick for a role will be wrong for someone.

Just gets tiresome to hear the complaints all the time. But I guess that is social media and the world we live in today.

So I guess at the end of the day it's on all of us as individuals to either ignore it or not frequent the online places where these types of groups battle it out.
 
Raging Reeeeeeeeeeeva is one of the worst one dimensional characters I have ever seen. I have have a feeling her figures peg warming status will rival Rose Ticos.
 
All this negativity will go away if:

1) Vader kills Reva

2) Vader and Kenobi have a kick ass fight -- Vader is left mangled -- and we get an excellent figure out of it.

2.a) HT announces Cad Bane
Yep. One lame Inquisitor is already down and none of my other criticisms against the show are deal breakers so if they can just quickly resolve Reva's stupid arc and then get her ass off the show then it can still end well, lol.
 
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