1/6 Hot Toys MMS699 & MMS700 ROTJ Darth Vader

[user 72759]

ROTJ v TESB

Same bug eyes, big mouth and droopy tusks. Maybe HT will tweak it, but i doubt it

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Yeah, seems to be. That ESB figure was so bad I sold it and won't have a 1:6 Vader until I can easily make something as good as the 1:4 one which is more or less perfect IMO. I can't understand how anyone likes the ESB one.

I'll probably get this one to display with the "emperor's wrath" TVC carded figure I have, maybe if the Kenobi helmet looks good I can swap one onto this. Hopefully the body isnt as much of a mess as the ESB one.

 

[jye4ever]

Both OW and ROTJ are must owns.

Suck it up and hit buy lol

 

[matrix69]

Even though the helmet is the same as the ESB, which is off in a few areas and not ideal, I still just PO'd this guy. Just finally gives me a reason to display Vader with the unmasked Shaw sculpt or maybe even with the cool light up deluxe Blue head.

That's what i intend doing as well. The Shaw sculpt with the new improved moving eye system is just too cool looking not to have on display.

And i'm happy enough with my modded HT ANH version as my main 1/6 Vader.

 

[MyenShi]

View attachment 632209He’s up! $345, not bad. Only $45 more than their first release, the OG ANH Vader!

I can’t afford this hobby anymore….

The ESB this is based on was $267 and the Standard of this is $300. That’s not too bad of a jump for the headsculpt and LED lightsaber.

Deluxe at $345 seems less appetizing for what you get, but I still generally recommend getting the Deluxe to have no regrets.

That said, the Deluxe will pretty much be a $400 purchase after tax and shipping. That’s certainly not insignificant and I can see people likely being even more selective going forward.

Vader being iconic and a ROTJ version being long sought after will still move a good number of these though. Despite the flaws.

 

[matrix69]

Yeah, seems to be. That ESB figure was so bad I sold it and won't have a 1:6 Vader until I can easily make something as good as the 1:4 one which is more or less perfect IMO. I can't understand how anyone likes the ESB one.

I'll probably get this one to display with the "emperor's wrath" TVC carded figure I have, maybe if the Kenobi helmet looks good I can swap one onto this. Hopefully the body isnt as much of a mess as the ESB one.

I'm looking forward to it already

 

[TheClient]

The proportions on Hot Toys Vader figures really bug me. Why is that? Does it have to do with the overall balance of the piece? Can they not make properly long legs? Is the costume just too bulky un 1/6? I have of course never designed a 1/6 or 1/4 figure but I would love to hear some reasoning behind it. I look at Vader statues and wonder why we can’t have that imposing presence?

Is it unfair to compare 1/6 to lifesize? These pics are in basically the same pose and it illustrates my complaint very well.

 

[McHaleyArt]

The proportions on Hot Toys Vader figures really bug me. Why is that? Does it have to do with the overall balance of the piece? Can they not make properly long legs? Is the costume just too bulky un 1/6? I have of course never designed a 1/6 or 1/4 figure but I would love to hear some reasoning behind it. I look at Vader statues and wonder why we can’t have that imposing presence?

Is it unfair to compare 1/6 to lifesize? These pics are in basically the same pose and it illustrates my complaint very well.
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Here’s some ROTJ specific Vader pics:

 

[fantasticfrog]

I wonder if Vader coming out today means we get a certain smuggler on may 4? Any Vader release is a big deal and the Shaw sculpt should be significant. Hopefully we get something amazing on may 4 and not another blurrg.

 

[Gipetto0812]

I'm not expert by any means. I just go by pics on the interwebs But, a couple things I think would help the proportions would be narrower shoulder armor and a wider stomach area. HT really gave him the v-taper look with a tiny waist, which Prowse didn't really have showing off while wearing the suit. Not sure he really needs to be taller, just all the pieces need to be scaled better. I know the Sideshow Vader figure isn't the best and is too tall, BUT, I do feel they got the proportions of nearly everything to look close to right on their more recent Vader to go along with the overly tall body (except the even too large for that figure clown feet).

I'm probably going to get this to mix and match with my already heavily modded SS version

 

[Hologram AI]

The proportions on Hot Toys Vader figures really bug me. Why is that? Does it have to do with the overall balance of the piece? Can they not make properly long legs? Is the costume just too bulky un 1/6? I have of course never designed a 1/6 or 1/4 figure but I would love to hear some reasoning behind it. I look at Vader statues and wonder why we can’t have that imposing presence?

Is it unfair to compare 1/6 to lifesize? These pics are in basically the same pose and it illustrates my complaint very well.
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Tailoring and the proportion on all of the aspects of it aren’t done well enough to translate to looking like a 1/1 person.

Shoulders being too wide, stomach not big enough, the dome/helmet not being accurate, the cape not draping down nicely with folds, body not being properly proportioned for Prowse’s giant stature, etc etc. It all mushes together into what you see there.

Take Inarts Pennywise prototype for example and compare it to Hot Toys. The proportion on Inarts looks much closer to a 1/1 person due to their ability to better match the overall details of the character.

Same thing is happening here with Vader. They did a much better job on the 1/4 version but continue to ignore it and not apply those technique and sculpt onto their 1/6 version.

 

[MyenShi]

I'm not expert by any means. I just go by pics on the interwebs

That makes you as much an expert as 90% of experts.

 

[zeiss]

The proportions on Hot Toys Vader figures really bug me. Why is that? Does it have to do with the overall balance of the piece? Can they not make properly long legs? Is the costume just too bulky un 1/6? I have of course never designed a 1/6 or 1/4 figure but I would love to hear some reasoning behind it. I look at Vader statues and wonder why we can’t have that imposing presence?

Is it unfair to compare 1/6 to lifesize? These pics are in basically the same pose and it illustrates my complaint very well.
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Yikes! This comparison makes the proportions on the Hot Toys look awful!

 

[McHaleyArt]

Tailoring and the proportion on all of the aspects of it aren’t done well enough to translate to looking like a 1/1 person.

Shoulders being too wide, stomach not big enough, the dome/helmet not being accurate, the cape not draping down nicely with folds, body not being properly proportioned for Prowse’s giant stature, etc etc. It all mushes together into what you see there.

Take Inarts Pennywise prototype for example and compare it to Hot Toys. The proportion on Inarts looks much closer to a 1/1 person due to their ability to better match the overall details of the character.

Same thing is happening here with Vader. They did a much better job on the 1/4 version but continue to ignore it and not apply those technique and sculpt onto their 1/6 version.

Yes. The parts are there. The body type, with a suit tailored to fit and proper positioning of the armor and accessories is key.
This custom uses mass produced parts (with some modifications and a custom body (also using mass produced parts).

 

[CaptainCody8]

Yes. The parts are there. The body type, with a suit tailored to fit and proper positioning of the armor and accessories is key.
This custom uses mass produced parts (with some modifications and a custom body (also using mass produced parts).
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What helmet is that? Is that a modified Hot Toys Empire helmet? I never really liked how the dome sat on that helmet, and it looks like the new ROTJ Vader will be using the exact same helmet.

 

[TheClient]

What helmet is that? Is that a modified Hot Toys Empire helmet? I never really liked how the dome sat on that helmet, and it looks like the new ROTJ Vader will be using the exact same helmet.

Maybe it is time to restart that epic “Modifying my Vader” thread.

Beautiful work, McHaleyArt.

 

[McHaleyArt]

What helmet is that? Is that a modified Hot Toys Empire helmet? I never really liked how the dome sat on that helmet, and it looks like the new ROTJ Vader will be using the exact same helmet.

It’s specifically from the Vader/Tarkin 2-pack, modified. Same mold as their New Hope and Rogue One helmet. The figure is modded to be ESB.

 

[lordnastrond]

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@lordnastrond

So about that Vader figure…

Absolutely typical - I only placed the order on the Obi-Wan Vader yesterday.........
No idea what to do now!

 

[McHaleyArt]

Absolutely typical - I only placed the order on the Obi-Wan Vader yesterday.........
No idea what to do now!

I think you ordered the better of the two.

 

[Chamberlian]

Absolutely typical - I only placed the order on the Obi-Wan Vader yesterday.........
No idea what to do now!

I decided to get both. I think they are both different enough IMO.

 

[Darth_Z]

EPIC! This line is getting so exciting! If HT had done something naff with the head sculpt, such as making it Hayden Christensen (with all love and respect to the guy!), I would’ve flown over a punched them right in the D! Now #BRINGMESOLO!!!