Dr Woke
Doctor Who - Spoilers!
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Jmek
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I tried watching but it was so unbelievably cringy I cringed myself into another dimension!
Jmek
Super Freak
For me it’s 1963 - 1981, I gave up on Davison’s run, but like a battered spouse I occasionally pop back for more!
Oh the irony... Woke BBC called out this episode for being TOO Woke!
Did they not realise that when they got into bed with Disney they'd be getting a double dosage of box ticking and virtue signaling, and all other kinds of wonderful wokery stuff.
Did they not realise that when they got into bed with Disney they'd be getting a double dosage of box ticking and virtue signaling, and all other kinds of wonderful wokery stuff.
chrisstbh
Thrawnald McDonald
Tbf Disney don't actually have any input on the development on the show, they just have the streaming/distribution rights. It's all Russell T Davies being Russell T Davies.Oh the irony... Woke BBC called out this episode for being TOO Woke!
Did they not realise that when they got into bed with Disney they'd be getting a double dosage of box ticking and virtue signaling, and all other kinds of wonderful wokery stuff.
Of course Disney have input. They wouldn't pay for the rights to show this crap unless it was ultra woke!
Tennant looks like AI Tennant.
Sad that he has to come back to this.
Sad that he has to come back to this.
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I can't begin to express how much I hate the word woke, both grammatically and functionally. The phrase sounds so dull, like an excuse for any further discussion. It's devolved into a descriptor for - absolutely anything- someone doesn't like or agree with which questions the status quo.
Accidentally received rainbow sprinkles on your mcflurry instead of chocolate? It's the woke agenda!11!1!1!!
The second someone throws that word into any conversation I struggle to stay present because I know they are they type of person to get mad at a Starbucks cup. We as a society have to have discourse at a higher level than all-encompasing terms.
That being said (bear with me), I'm not a fan of pandering, I believe it's important to organically show atypical narratives, and I think there's a way to be inclusive without being preachy (see Spider-verse). Sounds like the newest Who missed the mark in some of those regards. Idk, I haven't been on that train since early Capaldi. But Who, even at it's height, has always been supported by alternative viewers. In the US, that was what I would call "the Hot Topic" audience. Generally more progressive, against or tangental to the societal norm. So to see Who come back with...surprise...a strong push using views likely shared by the audience who once supported it at its biggest success...well that doesn't seem so crazy.
Accidentally received rainbow sprinkles on your mcflurry instead of chocolate? It's the woke agenda!11!1!1!!
The second someone throws that word into any conversation I struggle to stay present because I know they are they type of person to get mad at a Starbucks cup. We as a society have to have discourse at a higher level than all-encompasing terms.
That being said (bear with me), I'm not a fan of pandering, I believe it's important to organically show atypical narratives, and I think there's a way to be inclusive without being preachy (see Spider-verse). Sounds like the newest Who missed the mark in some of those regards. Idk, I haven't been on that train since early Capaldi. But Who, even at it's height, has always been supported by alternative viewers. In the US, that was what I would call "the Hot Topic" audience. Generally more progressive, against or tangental to the societal norm. So to see Who come back with...surprise...a strong push using views likely shared by the audience who once supported it at its biggest success...well that doesn't seem so crazy.
People use 'woke' as a blanket term and it's annoying as there's nothing wrong with being woke, the original term, not the hijacked version. I guess it's easier to say than 'in your face pandering to progressives'.
chrisstbh
Thrawnald McDonald
The way to be inclusive is to just have diverse characters exist and be well written. You also don’t need to **** on your CIS characters in order to make your diverse characters seem cool and strong, that’s not inclusivity that’s just reversing the roles when your message is “white man bad, we so good”.
Yep. I gave up shortly after Smith left. I think it was for the best. I still have good memories of the modern show...
Whenever “that word” is invoked I feel the collective discussion IQ reduces significantly. 
Eh for some viewers it's considered "preachy" just to have a gay character like Bill Potts on the show who's simply existing and living her life. So I don't put much stock in their opinion.
And anyway, for me the latest episode had far more issues than whatever agenda was supposedly being pushed. Like lazy, uninspired storytelling. And damn does it make me miss Steven Moffat even more. I know not everything he did worked, but I still miss how dark and weird and creative his writing was, and how he wasn't afraid to have some fun with the time travel concept. The RTD/Chibnall eras seem so overly simplistic in comparison.
chrisstbh
Thrawnald McDonald
Two wrongs don’t make a right.
The episode was fun but we can still call out bull ****.
It’s been this way on the stage and opera for years. Not sure why this crosses a line for so many.
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