Star Wars: Andor (September 21st, 2022)

[ZE_501]

This episode freakin' BROUGHT IT. I have said so many times in discussion over the last decade "Star Wars doesn't have to be Shakespeare" .... but this episode approaches The Bard's depth and pathos. Not his poetry of course (LOL) but the feeling was there. It was bigger than Star Wars. Serkis' performance was amazing and watching that end scene with Luthen ... it was a little on the nose but not too overdone.

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Luthen's black clad figure with that cape in the darkness ... well done. Very well done.

And how much do I love Kafrene? Ever since Rogue One -- and those aliens actually *felt* alien.

I would be ecstatic if we don't see Kino until late in season 2. Popping up to help Cassian finish off the season.

Fans love him.

Another incredible episode, my God that speech from Stellan

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I'd be surprised if we ever see him again -- it doesn't seem to be that kind of show.

 

[ZE_501]

I also loved how:

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The camera doesn't linger on the stormtroopers. They're just a given, they take up space, a ubiquitous symbol of Imperial domination. They're more frightening in this show because you don't know when or how they'll engage. And I have a feeling that they'll be better shots.

 

[Stront]

That was a great episode, really happy to be watching this. I travel a lot for work and have been listening to the Darth Bane trilogy on audiobook, so the two combined are giving me my fix of “mature” Star Wars.

 

[jye4ever]

This freaking episode!

Holy crap just give Skarsgard an Oscar, an Emmy, a Tony just give him everything I don’t care WOW!

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Him standing there with his cape blowing in the wind was freaking BAD ASS!

Serkis and Luna also went with both barrels blazing!

A freaking body bag in SW!

A mafioso!

This episode was a freaking masterpiece.

An absolute freaking masterpiece.

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”I sacrificed EVERYTHING!”

Is this freaking Lawrence of Arabia!

 

[ZE_501]

One detail I didn't like:

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Don't know if it was a budget thing or a consistency thing for their less gritty shows, but prisoners hit by blaster-rifle fire showed only a slight bit of soot or char on their white uniforms. No serious damage except for being dead LOL ...

But Star Wars has always been all over the place:

• Lightsabers make you bleed then they don't.
• Lightsabers sever limbs and bisect bodies except when they don't.
• Blasters blow flaming holes in armour and bodies except whoops now they don't and they can make you bleed except when they don't.

A lot of those examples are from the Holy OT so I guess you can't complain too much.

 

[jye4ever]

One detail I didn't like:

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Don't know if it was a budget thing or a consistency thing for their less gritty shows, but prisoners hit by blaster-rifle fire showed only a slight bit of soot or char on their white uniforms. No serious damage except for being dead LOL ...

But Star Wars has always been all over the place:

• Lightsabers make you bleed then they don't.
• Lightsabers sever limbs and bisect bodies except when they don't.
• Blasters blow flaming holes in armour and bodies except whoops now they don't and they can make you bleed except when they don't.

A lot of those examples are from the Holy OT so I guess you can't complain too much.

Dude we went from Ewoks to Jar Jar to Like a Bantha to Andor I’m totally good with their battle damage lol

Now this is Star WARS!

 

[Stront]

It was pretty grim how, and perhaps I’m mistaken and missed something, but

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after the escape scene, where Kino stayed behind, we see nothing until Andor surfaces ashore and just moves on, no standing at the shore looking longingly or distraught, just a mentality of he’s gone, move on

The only thing that comes to mind that I didn’t like/agree with was

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allowing the control room technicians live, as they were still dangerous as loose ends - they didn’t know what types of countermeasures and so forth that they had at their disposal, and in very daring, one-chance actions like that was you can’t leave anything to chance that you don’t have to

BUT with that said, it ended up being of (seemingly) no consequence.

 

[ZE_501]

The only thing that comes to mind that I didn’t like/agree with was

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allowing the control room technicians live, as they were still dangerous as loose ends - they didn’t know what types of countermeasures and so forth that they had at their disposal, and in very daring, one-chance actions like that was you can’t leave anything to chance that you don’t have to

BUT with that said, it ended up being of (seemingly) no consequence.

I thought of that too.

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I fully expected Cassian to execute them.

 

[jye4ever]

It was pretty grim how, and perhaps I’m mistaken and missed something, but

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after the escape scene, where Kino stayed behind, we see nothing until Andor surfaces ashore and just moves on, no standing at the shore looking longingly or distraught, just a mentality of he’s gone, move on

The only thing that comes to mind that I didn’t like/agree with was

Spoiler:

allowing the control room technicians live, as they were still dangerous as loose ends - they didn’t know what types of countermeasures and so forth that they had at their disposal, and in very daring, one-chance actions like that was you can’t leave anything to chance that you don’t have to

BUT with that said, it ended up being of (seemingly) no consequence.

Not killing them was worse for them Kino and Andor knows what the punishment for failure will be with the Empire.

 

[DarkChocobi]

Haven't seen such a twist (in the surpassingly good way) from modern films besides endless onslaughts of materialistic-flashy life-styles, meaningless sex and forced injections of diversity. I'm extremely interested in seeing how this "Infernal Affairs version of StarWars" going to play out from now.

 

[Mandible]

I know I'm going to be crucified for this, but the jail break bits didn't do it for me. Just felt a bit nothing for me. His rally speech felt... blah, and whatever they kept chanting didn't fire me up. It was all just a bit flat.

The Motha and Luthen scenes were phenomenal though. Both gave insanely good performances (coupled with masterful writing). The undercurrent with Motha was jaw dropping.

 

[The Buffinator]

I know I'm going to be crucified for this, but the jail break bits didn't do it for me. Just felt a bit nothing for me. His rally speech felt... blah, and whatever they kept chanting didn't fire me up. It was all just a bit flat.

The Motha and Luthen scenes were phenomenal though. Both gave insanely good performances (coupled with masterful writing). The undercurrent with Motha was jaw dropping.

I double checked to make sure you weren’t Otomofan after that first paragraph lol…

 

[Sassafras]

I know I'm going to be crucified for this, but the jail break bits didn't do it for me. Just felt a bit nothing for me. His rally speech felt... blah, and whatever they kept chanting didn't fire me up. It was all just a bit flat.

The Motha and Luthen scenes were phenomenal though. Both gave insanely good performances (coupled with masterful writing). The undercurrent with Motha was jaw dropping.

Maybe that's what didn't work for me either but maybe with this show and the writing that's the point. Men who are exhausted, stressed and essentially dead men walking aren't gonna be Steve Rogers being able to roll out inspirational speeches. There's no time and too many unknowns.

 

[ObiGlennKenobi]

I would be ecstatic if we don't see Kino until late in season 2. Popping up to help Cassian finish off the season.

Fans love him.

Another incredible episode, my God that speech from Stellan

I REALLY hope Andor goes back to save Serkis.
The ONLY other thing that may remotely happen is they turn Serkis into ......


Snoke!!!!!
bahahahahahahahaha
j/k.

Will take scenes of Mothma and Luthen ANY day!!!
Looking forward to the last 2 eps

 

[e30ernest]

Just watched this. Was planning to last night but after watching Wakanda Forever, I felt that the weight of that movie plus Andor would have been a bit much lol.

Another solid episode. I like how this one is all about their sacrifices. Everyone here is sacrificing something, and now I wonder if Mon Mothma will go that far as well.

 

[Jmek]

Great episode, with some electrifying performances from the cast. I can understand why it's not connecting with a lot of the audience though. Which is a shame, hopefully this season will tell a complete story, as I can't see Disney making a second season.

 

[jye4ever]

Maybe that's what didn't work for me either but maybe with this show and the writing that's the point. Men who are exhausted, stressed and essentially dead men walking aren't gonna be Steve Rogers being able to roll out inspirational speeches. There's no time and too many unknowns.

His speech wasn’t really out of the ordinary though essentially he atoned for his guilt as his last will and testament knowing he couldn’t swim and was going to die pretty harrowing stuff actually if you ask me.

 

[Musashi3290]

I'm waiting until this weekend to binge it. After seeing so many people applaud it, I'm super excited. I'm actually pretty happy that there's no jedi in it this season. I think that promotes good writing rather than using flashy lightsaber combat as a crutch...wouldn't complain if a scene showed up next season, though, lol.

As expected, Danoby2 won't even watch it cause he calls it a snore-fest, boring, nothing to be excited about, Andor is a jerk in RO, there's no hook etc. So, basically it sucks...but he got all manipulative and defensive about the word "sucks" when I posted it in chat, lol. He claims that he didn't say that, he just said all that other stuff.

He just hops between topics creating a stir of drama no matter what it is...contrarian for the sake of it. I mean, really? The word "sucks" doesn't capture all those characteristics? Meanwhile, the general Merriam-webster usage of "sucks" includes inadequate, undesirable, bad etc. What a clown man-baby.

Anyways, are you guys wanting any figures from this show?

 

[ZE_501]

His speech wasn’t really out of the ordinary though essentially he atoned for his guilt as his last will and testament knowing he couldn’t swim and was going to die pretty harrowing stuff actually if you ask me.

The fear and nerves of people about to face being shot at was well-acted once again, much like Vel's nerves before giving the order to act. None of the consequence-free, cavalier attitude that's par-for-the-course in Popcorn Star Wars.

 

[ZE_501]

I'm waiting until this weekend to binge it. After seeing so many people applaud it, I'm super excited. I'm actually pretty happy that there's no jedi in it this season. I think that promotes good writing rather than using flashy lightsaber combat as a crutch...wouldn't complain if a scene showed up next season, though, lol.

Shut yo mowf.

Seriously, if they put glow sticks in this I'm gonna RIOT.

Or write a strongly worded forum post.

As expected, Danoby2 won't even watch it

Oh no!