EXO-6 Star Trek "General Discussion" 1/6 Line

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Plus she was hot!

 

[Sixth Scale Man]

For the movies I'd want these uniforms, which cover six films from 1982-1994:

Would be good to assemble the seven classic crew, plus a Saavik. Preferably Robin Curtis:

Yep, I love these uniforms. I didn't grow up with TOS, so the motion pictures were my entry to the franchise. A Kirk and Spock from this line would be perfect.

 

[Asta]

I'd love a Robin Curtis Saavik as well (especially in that cool landing party gear)... but not before a Kirstie Alley Saavik. Since she was the original. And also because it would be cool to have a figure with her unique red collar instead of the white.

Speaking of the turtleneck colours, this range of uniforms seemed to have the most variations to distinguish the different departments, beyond the simplistic three-colour Command, Sciences and Operations:

White - Command.

Yellow Ochre - Operations, Helm, Engineering.

Light Green - Sciences, Medical.

Grey - Operations, Communications, Navigation (also Sciences, Scientific Research and Technical).

Windsor Green - Operations, Security.

Flame Red - Cadets, Trainees, Junior Officers.

Sky Blue - Special Services.

Black - Enlisted and Non-Commissioned Officers.

Dark Blue - Operations, Federation Forces.

https://memory-alpha.fandom.com/wiki/Starfleet_uniform_(late_2270s-2350s)


TNG going back to the more simplistic TOS era seemed a retrograde step.


The Motion Picture had six branch colours, but as one of six coloured circles behind the badge.

https://memory-alpha.fandom.com/wiki/Starfleet_uniform_(mid_2270s)


TMP, however, is such an oddity. Not only in that these uniforms only lasted for one film, but that the ponderous yet majestic 2001: A Space Odyssey style of film-making didn't really last either.

It feels like TMP was in a parallel universe, and the canon movies began for real with The Wrath of Khan, which became the first part of what seems like a reboot trilogy.

 

[Pauln6a]

TMP department colours made more sense than TWOK, which seemed very arbitrary. Why are helm and engineering team same colour? Bonkers! I prefer TMP.

 

[Asta]

TMP department colours made more sense than TWOK, which seemed very arbitrary. Why are helm and engineering team same colour? Bonkers! I prefer TMP.

I don't know.

Maybe they had in mind that the helm and engineering on a ship was akin to the pilot and stoker on a steamship. One steers while one provides the power as required.

In TOS it always seemed funny that red was engineering, communications and security. That is, representing all of Operations. Like the engineers, signals and military police all sharing a branch colour.

The movie uniforms split Operations into four sub-sections. Helm would either have to go to Engineering or Communications/Navigation.

TMP did separate Science from Medical, though, which made sense. I also like the colour behind the badges to identify the branch.

That idea transferred to the straps on the TWOK uniforms.

 

[Koloth]

I don't know.

Maybe they had in mind that the helm and engineering on a ship was akin to the pilot and stoker on a steamship. One steers while one provides the power as required.

In TOS it always seemed funny that red was engineering, communications and security. That is, representing all of Operations. Like the engineers, signals and military police all sharing a branch colour.

The movie uniforms split Operations into four sub-sections. Helm would either have to go to Engineering or Communications/Navigation.

TMP did separate Science from Medical, though, which made sense. I also like the colour behind the badges to identify the branch.

That idea transferred to the straps on the TWOK uniforms.

I think the idea behind the 3 color divisions in TOS was due to the PAL TV color system red, green and blue (although I've never considered the command tunics as green, despite what W W Theiss affirmed in the 1980s. It always looked gold to me, just Kirk's wrap around followed the "green" idea.)

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[Asta]

I think the idea behind the 3 color divisions in TOS was due to the PAL TV color system red, green and blue (although I've never considered the command tunics as green, despite what W W Theiss affirmed in the 1980s. It always looked gold to me, just Kirk's wrap around followed the "green" idea.)

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In that vein, maybe the simplicity was due to the fact that most people would've watched Star Trek on a black and white television when it first aired.

According to this page:

Color television households represented a small segment of the viewing audience (about 17.3% of television households as of January 1, 1967), but their numbers were growing rapidly. By 1971, nearly half of television households were watching in colour.

 

[Koloth]

In that vein, maybe the simplicity was due to the fact that most people would've watched Star Trek on a black and white television when it first aired.

According to this page:

The lighting, the costumes and the set decorations - not to forget the bridge and its instruments - of the show were so colorful, I think the producers did not have the BW TV users in mind.

 

[Koloth]

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Interesting picture: Kirk and Spock are wearing 3rd season tunics, wheras Uhura is wearing a 2nd season's (velour spiral) uniform.

 

[Asta]

The lighting, the costumes and the set decorations - not to forget the bridge and its instruments - of the show were so colorful, I think the producers did not have the BW TV users in mind.

I meant that the colours were big and bold at a time when most of the potential viewers would've owned a black and white television. It would be a matter of distinguishing shades, and knowing how they should look from colour photographs.

When all viewers have access to colour (if they're physically able to perceive colours, of course), the choices can be more subtle.

When Star Trek came to the big screen in colour the uniforms were more pastel and less striking. The service branch is just a tiny colour behind the badge, rather than a whole shirt as in TOS.

Then from Wrath of Khan onwards, while the uniforms become more vibrant, some of the branch colours are quite similar. In black and white Command, Science and Communications would likely be hard to distinguish.

 

[HPGR_Thrawn]

Burn all of TMP costumes and give me the Wrath of Khan figures!

 

[Mike86]

I do really like the film uniforms from The Wrath of Khan through The Undiscovered Country (well technically the beginning of Generations). The uniforms from TMP have grown on me over time though.

 

[davejames]

Even though the designs are far from my favorite, one thing I've come to like about TMP is how it very much looks like something made in the 1970s. And it's kinda cool that we got at least a small taste of Trek in that era, to go along with the 60s, 80s, 90s and 00s. (Yes I'm aware there was TAS, but that didn't have much of a 70s feel to it, being more a direct continuation of TOS.)

 

[Prime Clone]

It feels like TMP was in a parallel universe, and the canon movies began for real with The Wrath of Khan, which became the first part of what seems like a reboot trilogy.

I preferred the TWOK costumes back in the day, but I've gained a whole new appreciation of the TMP ones with age (and the movie itself). I think they're closer to Roddenberry's original vision, and the jumpsuits echo the later series from TNG onwards.

The Kelvin Universe and comic books have tried to incorporate them too.

 

[Asta]

I preferred the TWOK costumes back in the day, but I've gained a whole new appreciation of the TMP ones with age (and the movie itself). I think they're closer to Roddenberry's original vision, and the jumpsuits echo the later series from TNG onwards.

The Kelvin Universe and comic books have tried to incorporate them too.

I think they have improved with age, as with the film itself.

Yet the film still feels like a trial run. I think of it as a pilot episode for a potential movie series. Yet they canonised it by naming TWOK as Star Trek II.

 

[Mike86]

Well, Star Trek: The Motion Picture was made from the script for what would have been the pilot episode of Star Trek Phase II.

From what it sounds like it was kind of rushed along after other films like Close Encounters of the Third Kind and the original Star Wars did well at the box office.

So really the script was born out of something that would have been different than a film series, and done in a hurry. Probably why it feels different.

 

[Pauln6a]

The thing that is so great about TMP is its scope. It's easy to forget, when comparing it to modern movies, just how astonishing it looked in 1979. I agree that the ponderous finale drags, and I would have loved if a proper landing party to get in on some action but TMP has my favourite ship of all time. It looks great, feels functional rather than magical, and has a racially diverse crew, including aliens other than Spock, and has women functioning in all the departments (albeit we didn't get a female security guard).

I think I grew to love the aesthetic of TMP because I had to wait years for it to come on TV (I actually saw TWoK before TMP) and in the meantime, I soaked up the merchandise which fired up my imagination about the potential.

I have always longed to have all of the recurring characters from TMP but after 41 years, this has never happened and never will happen. But at least Nanjin inspired me to do something about it! Unfortunately, he also inspired me to collect X-men figures well as Star Trek so now every spare inch in my room is covered in 12" figures. :-/

 

[Asta]

TMP was majestic in the 2001: A Space Odyssey mould. In fact, it was almost a remake what with the search for the mysterious object and the long psychedelic trip near the end.


I remember the original Mego 12" figures didn't sell well, and were offloaded cheap on market stalls. There was one that piled the boxes into a big metal basket.

At some point my parents must've had a big toy purge because a lot of that old stuff disappeared, including 12" TMP, Cylons, Marx figures, a Six Million Dollar Man collection including Oscar Goldman and his office, 9" Denys Fisher Tom Baker Doctor Who, K-9 and Giant Robot. So much stuff that I don't know what happened to.

I was left with the smaller stuff, so still have the vintage 3 3/4" TMP figures.


So my 1/6 collecting over the last twenty years has probably just been making up for things lost.

I have nostalgia for the TOS movies, and for the series from its evening reruns. Not so much nostalgia for TNG, and none at all really for the TNG movies. Nevertheless the TNG series was very watchable. I think that's where my deeper interest in Trek ends.

 

[nanjin]

Finding missing figures.... there's a childhood anchor right there.

This is 1/6 trek destination.

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[GhostBeard]

Same for me. Star Trek was on every Sunday thanks to my dad but these red, Naval uniforms say "movie Star Trek" for me and are a must; although truth be told I'll only buy Spock. And the next TOS Spock that's being released to go with my other one. Working on a Spock shelf it seems.

Yep, I love these uniforms. I didn't grow up with TOS, so the motion pictures were my entry to the franchise. A Kirk and Spock from this line would be perfect.