Zack Snyder's Justice League

Collector Freaks Forum

Help Support Collector Freaks Forum:

This site may earn a commission from merchant affiliate links, including eBay, Amazon, and others.
Re: Zack Snyder's Justice League coming in 2021

I always suspected there was more to it than just Snyder's mourning. Seemed too "convenient".

I was still fine with JL, but the Snyder Cut can only be better. I didn't even mind this scene:

76104c261398e6c51cb5aa97b087bb3ed5e9935a.gifv


61f13401a1176208eb5eeb88ba54aafe87e50026.gifv

Johns hated snyder because he all cared about was $$$$ and snyder with his original stories were in his way. He wanted all his comic stories to be published by warner into movies but with snyder that would never happen. He planned to replace snyder with whedon long before his daughter died but warner wouldn't budge. He intentionally sabotaged bvs and suicide squad in post editing to achieve this goal but warner still stuck with snyder. Then snyders daughter died during justice league, and he asked warner for time off and to delay production thats when johns seized his moment and assumed control of justice league- he convinced warner to replace snyder with whedon citing that delays would cost them money and theyd fall further behind marvel in market share. So he got rid of everything snyder filmed then rushed trash to the market using whedon to finish a movie in 5 months all the while leaving zacks name on it (not a single shot of it was his). He is a complete bastard someone you would never want to work with. He is the sole reason why ben affleck gave up on the batman stories he was writing and why you saw sadfleck in that infamous video cause johns was causing chaos and deliberately sabotaged bvs, the film we saw in the theaters was not the same film ben saw nor with suicide squad
 
Re: Zack Snyder's Justice League coming in 2021

Johns hated snyder because he all cared about was $$$$ and snyder with his original stories were in his way. He wanted all his comic stories to be published by warner into movies but with snyder that would never happen. He planned to replace snyder with whedon long before his daughter died but warner wouldn't budge. He intentionally sabotaged bvs and suicide squad in post editing to achieve this goal but warner still stuck with snyder. Then snyders daughter died during justice league, and he asked warner for time off and to delay production thats when johns seized his moment and assumed control of justice league- he convinced warner to replace snyder with whedon citing that delays would cost them money and theyd fall further behind marvel in market share. So he got rid of everything snyder filmed then rushed trash to the market using whedon to finish a movie in 5 months all the while leaving zacks name on it (not a single shot of it was his). He is a complete bastard someone you would never want to work with. He is the sole reason why ben affleck gave up on the batman stories he was writing and why you saw sadfleck in that infamous video cause johns was causing chaos and deliberately sabotaged bvs, the film we saw in the theaters was not the same film ben saw nor with suicide squad


Thanks for the further background! Sounds like Fisher is justified in calling him out.

On a side note, is it coincidence that Terrio co-wrote both these scenes?


9c3ec6c924e2df79995272672f4150087228ee32.jpg


2660291db45b4ef01659fc95512c929161cc6fbd.jpg
 
Re: Zack Snyder's Justice League coming in 2021

They should have made johns/whedon the villains instead of that ****** SW

This keeps getting better

Profile photo, opens profile page on Twitter in a new tab
Ray Fisher
@ray8fisher

?During the LA reshoots for Justice League, Geoff Johns summoned me to his office to belittle and admonish my (and my agent?s) attempts to take grievances up the proper chain of command.

He then made a thinly veiled threat to my career.

This behavior cannot continue.?


These grievances he is referring to were against whedon and his treatment of not only him but females that worked on the movie that were being harassed by whedon on the set. Johns basically convinced warner to fire Snyder while he was morning the death pf his daughter and replace him with whedon. Of course johns would want to silence this **** because his ass was on the line but its all coming out now. Kharma is a ***** just ask Harvey Weinstein and Kevin Spacey

We know johns is done but I bet whedon regrets that 5 month stint lol. Its been nothing but bad pr for him. No wonder we keep hearing about a Buffy reboot/continuation he wont find any other work. He and johns will be stuck doing tv or financing their own indy projects from here on out until they pay their dues like Mr. Gibson and earn their way back via the publics trust/ collegue trust- if that ever happens. As of now both are done making movies in hollywood

Not Joss Whedon!

emAPIfRh.jpg

screen-shot-2014-08-27.jpg
 
Re: Zack Snyder's Justice League coming in 2021

Johns hated snyder because he all cared about was $$$$ and snyder with his original stories were in his way. He wanted all his comic stories to be published by warner into movies but with snyder that would never happen. He planned to replace snyder with whedon long before his daughter died but warner wouldn't budge. He intentionally sabotaged bvs and suicide squad in post editing to achieve this goal but warner still stuck with snyder. Then snyders daughter died during justice league, and he asked warner for time off and to delay production thats when johns seized his moment and assumed control of justice league- he convinced warner to replace snyder with whedon citing that delays would cost them money and theyd fall further behind marvel in market share. So he got rid of everything snyder filmed then rushed trash to the market using whedon to finish a movie in 5 months all the while leaving zacks name on it (not a single shot of it was his). He is a complete bastard someone you would never want to work with. He is the sole reason why ben affleck gave up on the batman stories he was writing and why you saw sadfleck in that infamous video cause johns was causing chaos and deliberately sabotaged bvs, the film we saw in the theaters was not the same film ben saw nor with suicide squad

Wasn't there a director's cut of BVS tho? That **** was more boring than the theatrical version. :lol
 
Re: Zack Snyder's Justice League coming in 2021

The theatrical was utter crap which is why most people hated the movie especially critics. The unrated cut might be boring to you guys but its a way better movie overall. The theatrical cuts out too much of the plot and character development- and worst of all it doesnt flow for **** as a movie- its choppy as **** due to so much **** being cut out. Like random scenes just spliced together- take the beginning for example, its just there were tossed in a middle of scene that makes no sense- why is lois even there, what was she even doing during the theatrical? what was she investigating? She was just there doing pointless random things. How did lex frame supes in the theatrical? None if it was explained, 30minutes cut from the beginning alone so were left with a pointless scene. I cannot stand the theatrical cut. Its pretty obvious it was hacked to pieces in post editing. Literally all of clark kents storyline is cut from it so your left with a superman that hates batman just cause he is batman, and the capital explosion scene where supes just flies off in theatrical was just poor taste- they left out the important scene showing him trying to help and the police telling him to get lost they didnt want him around to help. Those are just a few examples but there are plenty more

Imagine in civil war if they cutout Tony’s reason for hating bucky, like they didnt show the scene of him killing his parents- he just hates bucky just cause he is bucky lol- thats batman vs superman theatrical
 
Re: Zack Snyder's Justice League coming in 2021

There is no way that a few extras scenes of Clark reading a news paper, interviewing some random lady on the street and Lois investigating a fruit basket turned what you just admitted was a crap movie into some Snyder masterpiece.

I mean who makes an extended cut of an action movie and not add one extra second of action :slap


Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk
 
Re: Zack Snyder's Justice League coming in 2021

The theatrical was utter crap which is why most people hated the movie especially critics. The unrated cut might be boring to you guys but its a way better movie overall. The theatrical cuts out too much of the plot and character development- and worst of all it doesnt flow for **** as a movie- its choppy as **** due to so much **** being cut out. Like random scenes just spliced together- take the beginning for example, its just there were tossed in a middle of scene that makes no sense- why is lois even there, what was she even doing during the theatrical? what was she investigating? She was just there doing pointless random things. How did lex frame supes in the theatrical? None if it was explained, 30minutes cut from the beginning alone so were left with a pointless scene. I cannot stand the theatrical cut. Its pretty obvious it was hacked to pieces in post editing. Literally all of clark kents storyline is cut from it so your left with a superman that hates batman just cause he is batman, and the capital explosion scene where supes just flies off in theatrical was just poor taste- they left out the important scene showing him trying to help and the police telling him to get lost they didnt want him around to help. Those are just a few examples but there are plenty more

Imagine in civil war if they cutout Tony’s reason for hating bucky, like they didnt show the scene of him killing his parents- he just hates bucky just cause he is bucky lol- thats batman vs superman theatrical

:goodpost::lecture
 
Re: Zack Snyder's Justice League coming in 2021

There is no way that a few extras scenes of Clark reading a news paper, interviewing some random lady on the street and Lois investigating a fruit basket turned what you just admitted was a crap movie into some Snyder masterpiece.

I mean who makes an extended cut of an action movie and not add one extra second of action :slap


Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk

The batman versus superman fight is longer in the unrated cut so they did add some action
 
Zack Snyder's Justice League coming in 2021

The batman versus superman fight is longer in the unrated cut so they did add some action

They literally added an extra 10 seconds into the fight I believe it was that 2nd push, right.

10 seconds lol


Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk
 
Last edited:
Re: Zack Snyder's Justice League coming in 2021

There is no way that a few extras scenes of Clark reading a news paper, interviewing some random lady on the street and Lois investigating a fruit basket turned what you just admitted was a crap movie into some Snyder masterpiece.

I mean who makes an extended cut of an action movie and not add one extra second of action :slap


Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk

Pretty much. I?ll never get why people suddenly think it?s a masterpiece. It?s boring. It?s a movie about batman vs superman and it?s so dull
 
Zack Snyder's Justice League coming in 2021

Pretty much. I?ll never get why people suddenly think it?s a masterpiece. It?s boring. It?s a movie about batman vs superman and it?s so dull

I did forget that they also added Superman destroying a drone in Africa.

Ok so another 5 seconds of action lol



Omg everyone take a screen shot jye and ironwez are actually agreeing on something. Lol might be the last time you see that for a while

The only 3 things we disagree on is the ST, PT and Sonic lol


Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk
 
Last edited:
Re: Zack Snyder's Justice League coming in 2021

I did forget that they also added Superman destroying a drone in Africa.

Ok so another 5 seconds of action lol





The only 3 things we disagree on is the ST, PT and Sonic lol


Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk

In all fariness the problem with bvs theatrical was not the action, the unrated didnt need to add more action it needed to add all the plot points, character development and connecting scenes that were not only important to the story but allowed the movie to flow and make much more sense-

Yes its long and i can see why some people dont like it, a good example for me is Apocalypse Now, i enjoy parts of that movie but its long as **** i find it boring- but to others it is a masterpiece. Same with gone with the wind and even parts of deer hunter- all considered masterpieces. I only like the war scenes in deer hunter and the aftermath, that first hour of character building is boring as **** for me. Character development and plot points are important you cant just cut all that **** out and expect a movie to be good regardless if you find it entertaining. Civil war had alot of character development and plot points in it too, only had 2 main action scenes not counting the first one or the bucky cap escape both were over in like 2 minutes.

I also never said the unrated is masterpeice but its way better movie then the theatrical and as time passes it will be looked upon more favorably. If that movie released in theaters instead of what we got it would have receieved much higher critic scores. Just watch a few videos from critics who reviewed both and how much their opinion changed after seeing the unrated version

Here is just one example

https://youtu.be/mqhPVeDqRg8
 
Re: Zack Snyder's Justice League coming in 2021

In all fariness the problem with bvs theatrical was not the action, the unrated didnt need to add more action it needed to add all the plot points, character development and connecting scenes that were not only important to the story but allowed the movie to flow and make much more sense-

I disagree it lacked a ton of proper action.

That being said I still loved a few elements from the movie.

My favorite Batman depiction

My favorite Bruce

My favorite Batman costume

Awesome armored costume introduced

Epic Gotham MOS opening

Epic WW introduction

Epic Warehouse fight

Unique villain intimidation and revenge

Great Alfred

The rest meh lol


Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk
 
Re: Zack Snyder's Justice League coming in 2021

I disagree it lacked a ton of proper action.

That being said I still loved a few elements from the movie.

My favorite Batman depiction

My favorite Bruce

My favorite Batman costume

Awesome armored costume introduced

Epic Gotham MOS opening

Epic WW introduction

Epic Warehouse fight

Unique villain intimidation and revenge

Great Alfred

The rest meh lol


Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk

But the thing is there was the exact same number if actions scense in bvs as there was in civil war but the bvs ones were longer so it had more action to begin with it just failed at story, plot, character development and character motivation in comparison to civil war

In BvS
1 batman raiding lex luthers warehouse to get kryptonite
2 Batman vs superman - long ass fight
3 Batman saves martha
4 Supes bats and wonder woman vs doomsday zod

In civil war
1 Opening scene
2 Bucky saves cap
3 The big airport battle
4 Cap vs iron man
 
Re: Zack Snyder's Justice League coming in 2021

But the thing is there was the exact same number if actions scense in bvs as there was in civil war but the bvs ones were longer so it had more action

In BvS
1 batman raiding lex luthers warehouse to get kryptonite
2 Batman vs superman - long ass fight
3 Batman saves martha
4 Supes bats and wonder woman vs doomsday zod

In civil war
1 Opening scene
2 Bucky saves cap
3 The big airport battle
4 Cap vs iron man

The airport battle alone destroys all of BvS.


Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk
 
Re: Zack Snyder's Justice League coming in 2021

The airport battle alone destroys all of BvS.


Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk

Airport battle was good but so was batman saving martha and the bvs fight. I just personally didnt like doomsday its not the real doomsday its zod doomsday which is why he looks like a cave troll from lotr lol

One thing about the airport battle that sucked is scarlet witch didnt do anything cause she could have taken out all of tonys team by herself. It was not believable, rewatch that battle and let me know what SW does. The same reason she disappeared during end game at the end when she could have stopped thanos by herself instead of having cm there. Sw was nowhere to be found. Ask youself why?? Huge plot hole yes...but marvel didnt want to pay RD anymore or they wanted some bargaining power so they had to have her be gone so to tony could die and so we got the ending we saw in theaters. Stupid right. Where did SW go lol why wasnt she there, she was there until she wasnt lol. She was about to kill thanos earlier in the battle when both cap, ironman and thor could barely dent him/ he was kicking their ****- all three at once. She ****ing snapped his armor and sword that was tearing up caps unbreakable shield like it was nothing

Thats like having supes show up for a battle but then just having him missing when they need him most. Like supes is there why doesnt he do anything, its like tv show to lazy to explain plot holes and assumes the audience is too dumb to notice. The character is there but when they need her she is mysteriously missing and out of scene like she was never there to begin with, where did she go- im sorry it just cracks me up

Do you know where she went, what she was doing or why she wasnt there at the end (When she was just there 2 seconds earlier) especially after they went out of their way to visually demonstrate how much of a threat she was to him??
 
Re: Zack Snyder's Justice League coming in 2021

I disagree it lacked a ton of proper action.

That being said I still loved a few elements from the movie.

My favorite Batman depiction

My favorite Bruce

My favorite Batman costume

Awesome armored costume introduced

Epic Gotham MOS opening

Epic WW introduction

Epic Warehouse fight

Unique villain intimidation and revenge

Great Alfred

The rest meh lol


Funny, that was enough for me :lol




The airport battle alone destroys all of BvS.


CW was excellent but BvS was better. It was the turning point where I started liking the DCU more than the MCU.
 
Back
Top