HBO's Game of Thrones

[The Chaver]

Wasn’t too bad.

I think once you get a significant amount of people saying one thing then a bunch of people jump on the bandwagon.

I was more concerned with how the White Walkers were dealt with so easily at the end with no more character development.

Are they done?


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[pixletwin]

To me the darkness was the obvious intention of the director. And an effective choice IMO. It made the battle a disoriented affair which added to the tension.

 

[Robopredinator]

I was more concerned with how the White Walkers were dealt with so easily at the end with no more character development.

Are they done?

I wonder that too. Like the final scene in the finale is beyond what's left of the wall and we see a shadowy figure in the distance engulfed in snowy winds. Then his eyes glow blue. End Scene. I would argue that not knowing more about the Night King adds to his mystique.


Grabbed some shots of the episode 4 preview.

1. Covering King's Landing with barrels of Wildfire?



2. Ghost is alive. Which doesn't mean much because they don't make him a point of emphasis anyway.



3. Dany's Unsullied army doesn't appear to be too depleted. She still has her two dragons which were shown flying in the preview too.

 

[DinoDB1975]

But the dragon fire did wipe out a large portion of the white walkers or did you mean the generals? Even so, it seems like he might be a Targaryen.

I don't think they did it the right way with a blizzard at night. We've seen the blizzard in the daylight fights and for this battle between the NIGHT King to end the threat of the great NIGHT . . . . it had to be done in the night.

Yes, I meant the generals. It may be semantics (or I may be misunderstanding you), but I consider the generals the “White Walkers” and the dead army “Wights” (I guess they could be “Wight Walkers”, LOL).

Going back the Arya scene, I have no issue with what happened, only that it could have been down better. As others have posted, we’ve followed Arya on her journey for the last eight years and were reminded of Melissandre’s words to her...but the episode should have shown her making her way to the Godswood. In season 2 (3?), Maester Luwin mentioned to Theon that there were “secret ways” in Winterfell...the scene would been better served with her making her way to the Godswood instead of her leaving the Hound and Melisandre in the great hall and then appearing midair towards the Night King.

 

[karamazov80]

A lot of people are upset that more people didn't die and that it didn't live up to GRRM-GoT-level expectations but isn't it GoT-style to subvert our expectations? Everyone, including me, thought only a handful of characters would live past this episode. Suprise! Most lived! It would have been unsurprising if what we had expected came true.

Interesting. So they surprise us by becoming more and more conventional. By the 6th episode, GOT could turn into an Adam Sandler movie!

 

[jimcap]

I watched in on a 65" screen from an official 1080p Amazon feed in a dark room at a distance of about four meters from the screen. My personal opinion stands with everyone who says it was too damn dark. Unless their official amazon release was processed wrong, and it was different on the cable tv feed, much of it was just too distractingly dark and unclear for me to become fully immersed and invested in what was happening at any given time.

I watched it on a relatively cheapo 55" Vizio, via the Hulu app in 1080p. To me, it wasn't too bad.

Watched on a 75" QLED in cinema mode, streaming HBO- Go via Fire TV. I had no issues seeing the action. Also, the set was professionally calibrated.

 

[nearmint]

Watched on a 75" QLED in cinema mode, streaming HBO- Go via Fire TV. I had no issues seeing the action. Also, the set was professionally calibrated.

We're all coming over tonight to watch it on your TV. Make plenty of popcorn, please.

 

[jimcap]

We're all coming over tonight to watch it on your TV. Make plenty of popcorn, please.

Only popcorn? What kind of beer do you guys drink?

 

[darth dennis]

Only popcorn? What kind of beer do you guys drink?

"Free" beer

 

[Jmek]

To me the darkness was the obvious intention of the director. And an effective choice IMO. It made the battle a disoriented affair which added to the tension.

Conversely I found that it was far too dark to actually tell what was happening. I can appreciate what the director was going for, but Sky's broadcast standards were really working against him. I would love to see it in 4k though.

 

[pixletwin]

Conversely I found that it was far too dark to actually tell what was happening. I can appreciate what the director was going for, but Sky's broadcast standards were really working against him. I would love to see it in 4k though.

That seems to be the real issue. I was watching on a 4K TV and it llookedgreat... well, not great. Hehe But I could feel what they were trying to do.

 

[jedijim3002]

I see. Are viserion’s Fire any different compared to the other dragon asides the color? Technically since Jon’s a Targaryen he’s supposed to be fireproof and should be fine.

Actually no. Viserys wasn’t fireproof and he was a Targaryen as well but we all know how he died. In the first season we realize that Jon is not impervious to fire when the dead they bring back to the castle after saying their “words” in front of the heart tree come to life. Commander Mormont is holding a lantern when Jon grabs it to throw on the dead man and gets burned.

There is only one last dragon and that is Dany. My questions will be, can she withstand Dragon fire, is it hotter that normal fire, and can she withstand Wild Fire?

Great episode. It did feel too short and I was hoping for some more explanation on the Night King but they were all pinned down fighting their own who had been raised. It seemed hopeless and no way any could have survived unless they took him out. I knew it was going to be her and I knew the crypt wasn’t going to be safe. I was thinking she would have taken the face of one of the dead to sneak up on him but she didn’t.



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[Robopredinator]

Yes, I meant the generals. It may be semantics (or I may be misunderstanding you), but I consider the generals the “White Walkers” and the dead army “Wights” (I guess they could be “Wight Walkers”, LOL).

Going back the Arya scene, I have no issue with what happened, only that it could have been down better. As others have posted, we’ve followed Arya on her journey for the last eight years and were reminded of Melissandre’s words to her...but the episode should have shown her making her way to the Godswood. In season 2 (3?), Maester Luwin mentioned to Theon that there were “secret ways” in Winterfell...the scene would been better served with her making her way to the Godswood instead of her leaving the Hound and Melisandre in the great hall and then appearing midair towards the Night King.

I get a bit mixed up with regard to the correct terminology of white walkers and wights but that sounds about right. Regarding Arya using secret passages: Game of Thrones is filled with little nuggets of backstories and information that I think it's almost impossible at this point to touch on everything that's been said or explained. Had we seen Arya finding her way into the Godswood area, it would have taken away from the out-of-*****ing-nowhere Arya dagger kill as we would have seen it coming somewhat.

Conversely I found that it was far too dark to actually tell what was happening. I can appreciate what the director was going for, but Sky's broadcast standards were really working against him. I would love to see it in 4k though.

Were you in a fairly lit room?

 

[abake]

Going back to the battle itself... who the **** came up with the stupid-ass plan of using cavalry to charge directly into the ranks of an overwhelmingly strong enemy?
Isn't cavalry best used by flanking the enemy and trying to break up their lines?

 

[DinoDB1975]

^THIS. Light calvary is used to flank your opponents. Heavy cavalry is for head on charges, usually on flat surfaces, and against HUMAN opponents where the shock and awe of the noise and ground thundering as horses are charging at them at full speed causes them to sh* t themselves. Think of the Rohirrim charging the orcs (not human, but humanoid...and sentient enough to feel fear and panic) in Lord of the Rings: The Return of the King.

I wish the Night King’s generals would have entered in combat as well and faced off against the knights that wielded Valyrian steel, but the smart move was to overwhelm the North with superior numbers and replenishing shock troops.

 

[Robopredinator]

Is it fair to say that we can rule out Arya as the one who will kill Cersei now?

 

[Wor-Gar]

Does anyone know the correct terminology for the long white haired, bearded "generals" that seem to surround their Leader?

Are the dead also called "wights"?

Is the Night King technically a White Walker?

 

[ZE_501]

Does anyone know the correct terminology for the long white haired, bearded "generals" that seem to surround their Leader?

Are the dead also called "wights"?

Is the Night King technically a White Walker?

Only the undead are called wights. The Night King is a White Walker, but due to his station and power distinct from and above the other White Walkers.

 

[a-dev]

To me the darkness was the obvious intention of the director. And an effective choice IMO. It made the battle a disoriented affair which added to the tension.

I think I would have felt more tension if I knew who I was looking at at any given time. For me the darkness didn't work. I was certainly on the edge of my seat but not for the right reason - I was just desperately straining to see anyone or anything recognizable.

I was disappointed in the episode. It'll probably play better on future binges but on this first viewing it mainly just pissed me off. Loved the first two 'boring' episodes

 

[Wor-Gar]

Only the undead are called wights. The Night King is a White Walker, but due to his station and power distinct from and above the other White Walkers.

OK, so the hierarchy is:

Night King
White Walkers (generals)
Wights (the undead army)


That's about what I thought I guess. Pretty streamlined. Not much bureaucracy amongst the dead.