Robert Rodriguez's PREDATORS Movie Thread - SPOILERS

[MasterSafara]

A line from Hicks in Aliens was also used

'If it comes to that, I'll do the both of us'

I think somebody also said 'Say hello to my little friend'

That's right Dino. Good catch. Still point being they took too much from other movies...

 

[MasterSafara]

well in a nutshell i think predators succeeded since this time round.

I mean for us to complain that it could be better rather than how lame it was is an accomplishment in itself.

If you pay attention closely I state this movie simply could have been good not that it could have been better. I don't think it was good at all. It will be rated C at best. Too many similarities or "homages" whatever you's want to call it to other films.

Like I say in my reviews I liked it, but it wasn't good.

 

[Master Wayne]

I think everyone is being a little hard on it. It delivered what I was expecting, for the most part. I do feel the ending was rushed and could have been stronger though.

 

[MasterSafara]

Nope one powerful Predator grenade as I recall...

You recall wrong... There were several grenades that went off in Bezerker's face. He would not have survived realistically. I know it was for the movie for him to survive that blast, but it didn't work for me.

 

[pred4life]

Just got back from watching this and loved it, only 2 complaints though, the trailer is misleading with Royce having all the dots on him and yet it was just one on his forehead from berserker, but i would of really liked to have seen the other 2 preds without there masks just to see what/if they looked completely different to each other. I know every one is entitled to there opinion, but i just enjoyed for what it was, a pred film good action, i wasn't concerned that they didn't get all confused when they realised they were on a different planet or the references to the first movie, at the end of the day its not exactly Oscar material. Its just a good pred film.

 

[MasterSafara]

I'm sorry are you guts high on nostalgia or something because predator 2 was nothing short of pure and utter garbage top to bottom through and through.

Now predators on the other hand? Quite frankly I'm shocked that people are not rejoicing at the at the fact that a great alien terminator or predator has finally been made after 15 years of pure crapola.

This movie was everything it needed to be. Great characters and great pacing, new predators that are actually cool and inventive snd not cheesy and exagerated ala AVP. Good characterization and twists and turns. It's a solid 7 as good as a predator movie cam be. It's flawed yes, any sort of compassion or alliance with a human in a predator bothers me, I loved the idea of the swordfight but predator should have mopped the floor with the Yakuka guy to be honest and the odd reused line from P1 was not needed.

All in all? FINALLLy something awesome thst we can be proud of.

I'm a happy camper

Lol. "We" can finally be proud of. Must be the average Pred fan vs the hardcore Pred fan talking there. "Great pacing?" lol. Hardly. That's one thing that destroyed this film.

 

[fawk3s]

they look to the originals an even their terrible sequels as something untouchable because they have conjured up associations with them based on nostalgia that fill in the blanks, or overlook and simply forgive what is utterly terrible because it's coming from their childhood imagination which was devout of the ability to actually look at a movie through the eyes of taste.

I am not a fanboy. I just know what I like and what I dont. Im happy that you loved the movie, but you cant force me to like it.
I always compare all the predator movies to the original, including Predator 2. Yes, it had its flaws, but was still a fun ride, and it was different enough from the original to be enjoyable.
Predators wasnt.

(My opinion, so dont cry about it, boy.)

So i wasn't to negative afterall?

Actually, you were. New movies need to be given a chance, no matter your prejudice is.

 

[Predator vs. Alien]

What's the duration of the movie??

 

[Ash Housewares]

This movie was not fun at all. I was actually bored. Predator 2 wasn't a great movie but I do enjoy watching it. Predators had a boring script, characters who seemed uninterested in the situation they were put in and also the film had no real conclusion. The predators had no personality at all and considering the movie is about predators it failed to even make me remember any of them.

 

[Macularius]

Saw this yesterday and I liked every bit of it.

I really liked all of the human and predator characters. I was saying to myself before the movie, "Heh, I bet the only good characters are are brody and the chick" and I was wrong. I ended up caring about every one of them, (besides the freak doctor guy who revealed his true self at the end).

I loved the Pred vs. Yakuza scene. The predator could have easy killed him the first time the yakuza guy went down, but the predator wanted to keep on fighting for the fun of it. I was surprised when the predator was killed, and I was more surprised when the japaneze guy died right after it did.

And I also really liked the ending too. I liked how the "classic" predator up on the pole looked honestly tired, hungry, etc. And I loved how when he was cut down he really had revenge in his eyes. He also put up a good fight for a while, but I knew he'd end up being killed due to the promotional pictures I'd seen. I also liked how the berserker predator's mask got all messed up due to the grenades, and how he had to focus on Royce's heartbeat to find him.

I thought it was funny at the end when the guy was like "I like it here, I'm one of you" and the berserker was like yeahhh I don't think so pal and just quietly stuck his wrist blade through his heart

 

[MasterSafara]

Okay guys. I went back several pages to gather some of my posts. If you're interested in dialogue it begins on page 352 and stops around 363. Anything you read in green are new thoughts of mine.

There seems like a sequel could be very possible. I liked when Black blew the ship up, classic.

I really didn't like this scene. It made the whole spaceship idea almost irrelevant to the movie.

I know the scene you are referring to. Here is the frame I am talking about... in the movie they pan the camera by him & the left of the screen has nothing in it. This is an exaxct still from that pan, with the exception of the "dog" by him ofcourse.

Wow all this hype by RR with enhanced trailers is very disheartening to hardcore fans of Predator. He led us to believe we'd see more in this movie than what there really was. I don't care if it's "marketing 101." The enhanced multiple lasers on Royce. The Predator hound next to the Falconer in this freeze frame clip. And the build up of calling his new breed of Predators "Super Predators." Once most of us saw this film and think we walked out of the theater feeling like we'd just been jipped. At first I was excited I'd just seen a brand new Predator movie with new Preds and action in it. Then I felt disappointment. Felt like a knockoff to Predator rather than a sequel.

I saw PREDATORS this morning. I think the film bombed (but I sitll liked it because I'm a fan of the franchise). Anyone else think so?

Comment. Let's talk about it.

After thinking about it more driving on my way home from work I realized again how much I enjoyed seeing PREDATORS. I was very happy to see it and finally get another film under the Predator franchise belt. Unfortunately the film just wasn't that good. None-the-less I liked it and would see it again in theaters before the public is able to own it.

I'm not basing my opinion off how many tickets were sold for a showing. My theater was pretty packed too for a 10:55 am showing!

I personally think the film tried too much to be like Predator. I was almost embarrassed at times to be a fan of Predators during the film because I felt like the audiences will be left thinking they'd just scene a knockoff of Predator. The score was extremely disappointing. I wish this film would just have been it's own.

Instead we hear original Predator music pretty much throughout and at the beginning of the ending credits again with the famous Predator chopper scene. Reminds me of Jesse Ventura, but not for this film no it was not good.

"The enemy of my enemy," heard that before? From AVP.

"Common! KILL ME! KILL ME NOW! DO IT! DO IT! I'M HERE KILL ME!"
I know you know what that is! THAT'S ARNOLD'S LINE!

And these were not "Super Predators!" Lol GIVE ME A BREAK!

Still I enjoyed it because I'm a fan of the franchise, but there were just too many flaws, failures, and let downs.

We never even saw what Tracker/Flusher and Falconer look liked unmasked!

Someone made a good point after I posted this. We never saw Chopper or Celtic unmasked in AVP either. For AVP I was okay with that. Never even thought about or cared to see them unmasked. However, I felt like we should have seen Tracker and Falconer unmasked in this one. Maybe it was because RR proclaimed these Predators "Super Predators." I was interested to see what they'd look like underneath.

One of the best things I can take from this film was the job done by the actor who played Stans. Lol. Very well done and he made us believe in his role. The humor they used for him (while quite dark) I personally found enjoyable and funny and his overall personality was portrayed to a T by the actor and his demise was also a great scene in the movie!

In any case these so called "super predators" were a super disappointment. What kind of super predator loses to humans? Really?

And I'm not so sure Classic would have lost had he been 100%. Don't forget he was tied to that totum so he must have been weak and dehydrated. Hell we don't know how long he'd been strung up like that for...

The super predators did not convince me they were any better than traditional predators. Fail there Rodriguez. Still I enjoyed it.

Stans judging from his clothing was abducted from a prison yard.

Couple more ideas for the film.
1.) would have been nice and interesting to see a flashback while Nolan is telling his story to how he went about killing 2-3 Preds.
2.) Dino you had a good idea with Falconer surviving the battle against Hanzo only to be defeated by Classic to get Classic a kill.
3.) Royce and Bezerker fight could have been interupted by the suddent emergence of one of those alien creatures the Preds brought to their planet in cages. Like the one that was chasing Edwin. Say Bezerker is about to off Royce when all of a sudden the alien creatures shoots into the frame spearing/tackling Bezerker to "save the day" so-to-speak for Royce and aid in his survival. Not on purpose. More like just because they're on the planet too. Afterall there was more than 1 empty cage.

Yeah I really wish we would have seen a clan of Predators in this one. I don't mean a new breed either. These hunting packs of 3 is getting old and boring anyway.
That script you posted would have been nice. 11 or so Preds to the clan with their clan leader seperated by unique armor etc.

Predator 2 did it and showed us our most favorite clan of Predators. I think everyone will agree... The Lost! Plus we were introduced to Predator 2 Elder Predator!!!

Yeah there was nothing "super" about these predators. Wait! I may have already said this, but there was something super about them...
THEY WERE A "SUPER" DISAPPOINTMENT!

These Preds don't have the youngblood/teen excuse either. I didn't get the impression they were novices yet they fought and acted as such. Huge let down...

They simply do not need to be proclaimed super when theyre anything but...

Didn't even have to mention super predators but did giving hope unfortunately it was false hope. I don't know bout you guys but I was disappointed to see these predators to go down so easily. Super or no super... Predators in general should not be that easy to kill.

Why you telling people who they should root for? Course I'm going to root for the predators!!!!

The movie is called PREDATORS!!!
Not HUMANS!!!

They paid enough homage throughout the entire film to Predator. Especially with the score which I did not like the use of. PREDATORS should have used a more subtle approach as Predator 2 was able to successfully execute. Predator gave us something we'd never seen before and had excellent flow to it. Which is partly why it is now considered a classic film. PREDATORS spent too much time trying to be a good sequel and not enough time being it's own original film. It failed to deliver a suprise element. The film was too predictable. I felt embarrassed at times not just for me but for audiences to watch it. It felt like a complete knockoff to Predator rather than a sequel.

Sorry for the huge post. Just wanted to be heard.

PREDATORS just didn't fill my cup of "I just saw an awesome movie that everyone will love." It felt like a knockoff and I was embarrassed at times during the film to be a fan of the Predator franchise. Still I liked the movie just wish it went with it's own direction just like Predator 2 did to follow up on Predator.

And of course my video Reviews of Predator are here if anyone is interested. I encourage you to watch both.

(1 of 2)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i70lL9aAZh8

(2 of 2)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zSLa-rnQV5k&feature=related

 

[hairlesswookiee]

Multi-quoting and reposting your points doesn't make them any more valid. Just really annoying to sift through and figure out WTF you're doing.

I don't have a problem with your opinion, but damn that's a lot of quotes.

 

[Jaycepticon]

I thought it was funny at the end when the guy was like "I like it here, I'm one of you" and the berserker was like yeahhh I don't think so pal and just quietly stuck his wrist blade through his heart

I liked that part too. That's probably one of my most favorite kills in all the Predator movies since it was just a nice, slow, and nonchalant stab compared to all the theatrical ways Pred's usually kill things

 

[Bezzerkerr]

you could've saved yourself some typing by just posting this link - https://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/nostalgia

that's why you didn't like it. which is fine, that's the only reason i like the 1st one more. but your histrionic rant didn't prove or disprove the quality of any of the films. try making points instead of melodramatic exaggerations and straw-man condescensions.

With that link you confirmed that you are one of the most self righteous members on the forum. You didn't state your opinion, you simply gave me a pompus remark of what i said was wrong...while you CONTRIBUTED NOTHING TO THIS THREAD.

Do me a favor when you are ready to contribute something worth reading, please post it, i'm sure it would make the moderators very happy.

oh yeah, please humor me, Exaggerations, what exaggerations am i talking about im my post. Please dismantle my rhetoric.

I am all ears Mr. Webster.

When you're ready to act like an adult I'll pay more attention to you.

I am here to discuss PREDATORS, and i have been attacked multiple times for stating my opinion with reasons and specific examples, just incase anyone wanted to see where i was coming from. Certain members aren't interested in hearing why i feel the way i do, they want to tell me how I feel because they are self righteous.

Elder Predator, there is no need for you to defend hairlesswookie. He is simply a lazy SideshowCollector, that cannot get over other's grammatical errors. I find it hysterical that you jump into the mix. I completely understand, the whole STRENGTH in NUMBERS mindset is very common with followers and people that are afraid to stand on their own two feet.

I did not come here for attention, i came here to post EXACTLY why i felt this film was 6 / 10. YOU came here NOT to discuss PREDATORS, you came here to be a subordinate of someone who did not want to read my post.

ATTENTION, don't worry bro, you gave HAIRLESSWOOKIE tons of attention

 

[Bezzerkerr]

Multi-quoting and reposting your points doesn't make them any more valid. Just really annoying to sift through and figure out WTF you're doing.

I don't have a problem with your opinion, but damn that's a lot of quotes.

Another pefect example that justifies YOU ARE NOT IN THIS THREAD TO DISCUSS THE FILM.

Please GET OUTTA HERE.

 

[MasterSafara]

Multi-quoting and reposting your points doesn't make them any more valid. Just really annoying to sift through and figure out WTF you're doing.

I don't have a problem with your opinion, but damn that's a lot of quotes.

I'm not trying to make them more valid. It's for those who did not hear what I had to say. Rather than saying it all over again I made it easier on myself and just collected my posts.

Plus I tired to make it easy on those who wanted to follow by adding the page where you can find the start of my post and the ending.

 

[thenammagazine]

This movie was not fun at all. I was actually bored. Predator 2 wasn't a great movie but I do enjoy watching it. Predators had a boring script, characters who seemed uninterested in the situation they were put in and also the film had no real conclusion. The predators had no personality at all and considering the movie is about predators it failed to even make me remember any of them.

Because the Predators in the other films had Oscar-worthy performances?

 

[Ash Housewares]

If people don't want to read post why do they have to complain, just skip it. We're all here to talk about a movie but to be honest it's getting a bit pathetic how Many people are jumping down each others throats. They are opinions and we should be able to express
them without being made to look like tw@s

 

[hairlesswookiee]

Because the Predators in the other films had Oscar-worthy performances?

Well yeah. The way he said "anytime" gave me goosebumps all over.

And in part two my jaw dropped in amazement with the "want some candy" line before killing Bill Paxton.

 

[Ash Housewares]

Because the Predators in the other films had Oscar-worthy performances?

No but at least pred 1, 2 and wolf all acted differently and had recognisable traits. Trust you to turn up and stir it.