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Alright, inferior in what way?

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It's basically an entirely new figure. Not saying it's total garbage. It's just not as advertised. :)
As I've said in the previous post.. those lanky legs, the weird torso shape and proportion. The color of the armor from proto to final also does not look good. Just my opinion but I'm keeping my order because I didn't get the BD version.

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Does anyone like anything on this at all or is it just a echo chamber of criticism ATM ?. Haha

Should be on the way to me soon and unless the Trainwreck Brexit screws up imports more, early January I'll post some pictures if it helps anyone. I've got nothing more than a crappy phone cam but I'm happy to try and contribute by helping people and show a figure off if I can.

I'm getting the feeling majority are hesitant to buy this now and relying on the few "influencer" posts for any info ?.

I'm holding out till I have the stock head in hand before I judge. Looks a bit pouty to me but still looking good.

Not wanting to argue or downplay anyone's concerns. Peace and be peace.

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Guess it's all up to Justin to salvage this trainwreck release with his positive vibes and his inevitable love for the sh***y headsculpt! :lol

Honestly he's probably doing the community no favors when he constantly praises figures that have very blatant flaws and cheapening of material, etc. because I'm sure HT reps or whoever watch his videos and relay HIS opinion back to the HT team since I would consider Justin as having sizable clout now since his channel garners a significant amount of views.

"Yeah, the Aussie is fine with the shortcuts we took and the cheapening/softening of this headsculpt! More money in our pockets, yay! These dumb customers will keep coming back to us!" - HT execs :hi5:
 
Does highlight how blunt a lot of the detail linework gets, all the diecasts have this to a varying degree (really stands out on the Mk42/43 for example). Almost seems like the proto is made in plastic and it gets reworked into the diecast/plastic production side and loses a peg or two of detail in the process, given the limitations of pot metal. If only it were a $100 discount instead of a surcharge for all the extra weight people like so much.
 
Guess it's all up to Justin to salvage this trainwreck release with his positive vibes and his inevitable love for the sh***y headsculpt! [emoji38]

Honestly he's probably doing the community no favors when he constantly praises figures that have very blatant flaws and cheapening of material, etc. because I'm sure HT reps or whoever watches his videos and relays HIS opinion back to the HT team.

"Yeah, the Aussie is fine with the shortcuts we took and the cheapening/softening of this headsculpt! More money in our pockets, yay! These dumb customers will keep coming back to us!"
One thing that never sits right with me is that whenever HT does something right, Justin says "they totally didn't have to do this, so its extra great that they did!" No, man, for the prices HT charges, getting details right is exactly what the figure has to do. That's what people pay for. That accuracy is exactly what HT promises in the specs for every figure.

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Ok, can you tell me which of the highlighted areas is inferior?

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What I mean by "inferior" is when the final version doesn't hold up to the proto. The final doesn't have to be an exact copy but it should be close enough or much better. If you don't see the vast difference between the two then I don't know what else to say. :)

An example would be the Mark 7 armor. The final version looks really good.
 
One thing that never sits right with me is that whenever HT does something right, Justin says "they totally didn't have to do this, so its extra great that they did!" No, man, for the prices HT charges, getting details right is exactly what the figure has to do. That's what people pay for. That accuracy is exactly what HT promises in the specs for every figure.

For better or worse, due to the popularity of Justin's videos he has more or less become an unofficial spokesperson for the every-collector and unfortunately he never uses his platform to give construction criticism, rather he only heaps praise on them even if the figure is only subpar (Ex: Spider-Man Stealth Suit - the final product cut SO MANY corners it's totally inexcusable).

I mean it's very clear he sings their praises so consistently because he wants to get in bed with Howard Chan, but in doing so he's really f'ing the ENTIRE community over by letting HT think they can get away with cutting corners.

Love his videos, hate his constant approval on everything HT puts out. :gah:
 
Yeah Justin can come off a bit as a corporate shill sometimes and is a bit agreeable on everything being great.

I dunno, saw some videos of the 85 head and I just feel that it's a bit pouty and the beard seems painted on rather than sculpted as sharp/defined as it usually is.
Can only guess HT saw this as the last Tony Stark and wanted to make it a heroic filtered sculpt for the ages.

As the the changes in body/armour. It's still amazing to me and while I do agree that for the price we pay we should have no second guesses, I'm not going to break out the ruler and make sure each mm is screen accurate for me eye.
It's going to pose amazingly, look definitive in the case and I will be very happy knowing this is the last MCU Iron Man.

I know this'll drawn some erk but I learnt long time ago, if you don't like something, vote with your wallet not your mouth and move on to something you do like. Don't stress the stuff you can't effect as much.

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What I mean by "inferior" is when the final version doesn't hold up to the proto. The final doesn't have to be an exact copy but it should be close enough or much better. If you don't see the vast difference between the two then I don't know what else to say. :)

I see that some of the lines are slightly different and the shape of the LED windows are slightly different. I am not clear on how these differences are inferior. Perhaps the differences are more accurate to the film?

I'm not trying to be a jerk here, I just feel like if the production armour is so obviously worse, as some have suggested, then somebody should be able to tell me in what way, specifically, it is worse.

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For better or worse, due to the popularity of Justin's videos he has more or less become an unofficial spokesperson for the every-collector and unfortunately he never uses his platform to give construction criticism, rather he only heaps praise on them even if the figure is only subpar (Ex: Spider-Man Stealth Suit - the final product cut SO MANY corners it's totally inexcusable).

I mean it's very clear he sings their praises so consistently because he wants to get in bed with Howard Chan, but in doing so he's really f'ing the ENTIRE community over by letting HT think they can get away with cutting corners.

Love his videos, hate his constant approval on everything HT puts out. :gah:
I mean you said it, haha.
He is the public voice/face of us now, better and worse. We live in the era of the influencer, people flock to them for the glow of elite and the rest shrugs with disappointed resignation that they can't do much else.

It's. Just a shame that HT are stubborn and don't communicate. We could stop disappointment if they could some how do a dev diary after a licenced have given their nod to something. Be great to have community polls or something.

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Look at those lanky legs. The weird torso shape. The proportions are all over the place. The change of the color gold and red doesn't look good. :slap

Yeah the proportion on this is weird. It's the entire section from the crotch up to the neck.

As someone else in the thread said, it looks like someone who pulled their pants up too high. :lol

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Yeah the proportion on this is weird. It's the entire section from the crotch up to the neck.

As someone else in the thread said, it looks like someone who pulled their pants up too high. [emoji38]

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Are the legs long or is it our eye expecting them to end/his girdle line to be lower ?. Is it just the design of the armour to not have as much skirt to cover the top of the leg ?
Genuine question, now I have it on order and in the post soon I am trying to get into the tread a bit. Lol

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I see that some of the lines are slightly different and the shape of the LED windows are slightly different. I am not clear on how these differences are inferior. Perhaps the differences are more accurate to the film?

I'm not trying to be a jerk here, I just feel like if the production armour is so obviously worse, as some have suggested, then somebody should be able to tell me in what way, specifically, it is worse.

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The image posted was just a response to what you posted earlier... because they're not the same.

Nothing happened, as far as I can tell. Below is a comparison of the promo photos vs. In hand. The shoulders, like everything else, appear to be the same. I don't see any issues with the production armour so far, but of course I don't have it in hand.

Was under the impression you didn't see the difference in the photo. Couldn't care less about minute movie accuracy like others do. Just want the figure to look good in hand. :)
 
Yeah the proportion on this is weird. It's the entire section from the crotch up to the neck.

As someone else in the thread said, it looks like someone who pulled their pants up too high. [emoji38]

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If you watch this person's YouTube video, you'll see that they have posed the figure with an exaggerated posture. The proportions look weird because the abs are crunched--you can see that in this photo.

The legs also look like they may not be fully pushed back in, but thats just speculation on my part.

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Guess it's all up to Justin to salvage this trainwreck release with his positive vibes and his inevitable love for the sh***y headsculpt! :lol

Honestly he's probably doing the community no favors when he constantly praises figures that have very blatant flaws and cheapening of material, etc. because I'm sure HT reps or whoever watch his videos and relay HIS opinion back to the HT team since I would consider Justin as having sizable clout now since his channel garners a significant amount of views.

"Yeah, the Aussie is fine with the shortcuts we took and the cheapening/softening of this headsculpt! More money in our pockets, yay! These dumb customers will keep coming back to us!" - HT execs :hi5:

A company like that is not going to be swayed wholly by the influence of one person.

Not that they listen to feedback that often, but it certainly wasn’t one person that got the headsculpt swapped out for the Mk 85. It was the collective cries of a large group of people that laid into Hot Toys with collective criticism, as with the few times Hot Toys listened and corrected something.

We can speak for ourselves as customers and collectors. I don’t think most folks here would really like to have a spokesperson unofficially elected for them without any say.
 
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What's funny is that I remember people pointing out how bad and weird the sculpt on the Stark team suit figure looked in that Coming Soon photo.

People said that it's probably just the lighting or a bad photo but you can actually tell now that they were using the exact same sculpt as this one.

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That was my exact fear! I will display the team suit version with the HS and was worried. Everyone said what you stated and I agreed to remain calm and wait. The Mark 85 HS reveal brought up my fears again. I am keeping my Mark 85 since I?ll be displaying him helmeted. However I will dump my team suit PO (that?s paid in full btw) if they use this HS. The proto one looked great and showed some age. I don?t want this Judge Reinhold with Tony Stark facial hair version!
 
I feel like Justin is going to have to acknowledge the criticism . . . before saying that the sculpt is fantastic!
 
Yeah the proportion on this is weird. It's the entire section from the crotch up to the neck.

As someone else in the thread said, it looks like someone who pulled their pants up too high. :lol

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The legs look like they're not pushed-in. From the initial reviews and pics I saw, this armor functions like a Gunpla with drop-down thighs and moving parts.
 
This Starkgate situation is so bad JC Hong had to delete his TS head sculpt post and privatize his IG account.
 
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