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Re: The Man of Steel
Yeah, I agree. If Zimmer did create a theme (which according to interviews with him, he hasn't) then for me, it's that.
It originated from Barbastella in the original Batman Begins soundtrack when Bruce Wayne returns to the well he fell into as a child and goes into the Batcave. The theme starts as the bats surround them and he overcomes his fear by becoming one with them. It's one of my favorite scenes in any of the Batman films. Period.
But still, the music is all over the place. It's not used when Batman arrives in the garage scene, or when he appears to the LOS or during any "Batman moments", so it really isn't his theme as it as just a theme. This is just one example too. Many of the cues for Harvey Dent are taken straight from Batman Begins and aren't new once so ever. There's a great piece in the actual soundtrack created by James Newton Howard (let's remember that not all of this is Zimmer either, it took both of them) that's not featured in the film for Dent. It's full of this sense of American ideal and patriotism that was ultimately not included.
There's also that great scene with Bruce preparing to be Batman in Begins (making the batarangs, painting the suit, etc.) with the "becoming Batman theme" that's just recycled in TDK for going after Lau. There are many instances of this recycling and it can't just be for a mirroring of scores. It's just reusing.
For me the Batman theme is this, from the 40 second mark
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oL7PSlUuWPs
It appears earlier in TDK in the 'Batpod release' scene but it kinda falls away again (0:40 - 1:00 in the below clip); indicating that Batman is still not completely there yet. Once he decides to take the fall for Dent, that's when he becomes fully formed.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Zg1cDKYmK98&feature=channel&list=UL
Yeah, I agree. If Zimmer did create a theme (which according to interviews with him, he hasn't) then for me, it's that.
It originated from Barbastella in the original Batman Begins soundtrack when Bruce Wayne returns to the well he fell into as a child and goes into the Batcave. The theme starts as the bats surround them and he overcomes his fear by becoming one with them. It's one of my favorite scenes in any of the Batman films. Period.
But still, the music is all over the place. It's not used when Batman arrives in the garage scene, or when he appears to the LOS or during any "Batman moments", so it really isn't his theme as it as just a theme. This is just one example too. Many of the cues for Harvey Dent are taken straight from Batman Begins and aren't new once so ever. There's a great piece in the actual soundtrack created by James Newton Howard (let's remember that not all of this is Zimmer either, it took both of them) that's not featured in the film for Dent. It's full of this sense of American ideal and patriotism that was ultimately not included.
There's also that great scene with Bruce preparing to be Batman in Begins (making the batarangs, painting the suit, etc.) with the "becoming Batman theme" that's just recycled in TDK for going after Lau. There are many instances of this recycling and it can't just be for a mirroring of scores. It's just reusing.