Looper

[greygoose]

What do you need to be simplified? I 'KIND OF' got it

Spoiler:

How did killing himself solve anything?

 

[KneelBeforrSmallville]

Spoiler:

How did killing himself solve anything?

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Apparenlty if he killed himself then, he would never grow old and become Willis Joe and go back and bla bla bla. Some logic is off but do you kind of understand?

 

[greygoose]

Spoiler:

Apparenlty if he killed himself then, he would never grow old and become Willis Joe and go back and bla bla bla. Some logic is off but do you kind of understand?

I guess I sort of get it.

 

[MarfMaster]

I guess I sort of get it.

Spoiler:

Joe was ultimately responsible (as Old Joe) for setting Sid on the path to becoming the Rainmaker (by murdering his mother), so by killing himself and preventing Old Joe from killing Sid's mom, he allowed Sid to develop into a "normal", healthy, good human being instead of the bloodthirsty tyrant he was in the prior future.

 

[greygoose]

Spoiler:

Joe was ultimately responsible (as Old Joe) for setting Sid on the path to becoming the Rainmaker (by murdering his mother), so by killing himself and preventing Old Joe from killing Sid's mom, he allowed Sid to develop into a "normal", healthy, good human being instead of the bloodthirsty tyrant he was in the prior future.

Cheers, makes sense now.

 

[MarfMaster]

Cheers, makes sense now.

 

[Michael Crawford]

Spoiler:

Joe was ultimately responsible (as Old Joe) for setting Sid on the path to becoming the Rainmaker (by murdering his mother), so by killing himself and preventing Old Joe from killing Sid's mom, he allowed Sid to develop into a "normal", healthy, good human being instead of the bloodthirsty tyrant he was in the prior future.

Actually, there's no guarantee. That's what I liked about it.

Spoiler:

the Rainmaker came into existence the first time through the lime stream as well, even though young Joe had killed old Joe. All we know for sure is that if he had killed the mom, it would have turned out badly. By killing himself, he's at least given the world a chance to avoid a bad Rainmaker, and maybe end up with a great person instead.

I enjoyed the movie quite a bit - easy 8/10. It would have been higher but the end was a bit formulaic.

I really like some of the way they handled the time travel, especially including the scene of the first and second meeting of young Joe and old Joe. I did have one question though...

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At one point I suspected that Kid Blue was supposed to be a young Jeff Daniels. After thinking about it though, I suspected that Daniels hasn't been born yet. If he's around 50 here, and had been sent back before he was twenty, he'd still have a few more years before he was born. But once he's born, what would they do with him? It would end up messing up the memories of the old Daniels if they did nothing...then again, it seemed like Daniels had been there for at least 15 years at this point, with another 30 years between the present and the future in the film, making it tough for him to not yet be born. Thoughs?

 

[Buttmunch]

Saw the film yesterday. It was Ok. Definately overhyped. There wasn't anything mindblowing about the time travel. Nothing that hasn't already been exlpored in other films already at least. The way this was hyped up, I guess I was expecting something more.

 

[giant monster]

Woo, I book ticket tonight. looking forward for a long time.

 

[CelticPredator]

This was a fun flick. It had good character arcs, wasn't dumb, it wasn't the end all be all of movies this year, but it was original, and clever. And that is well appreciated.

 

[Dark_Knight_89]

This was a fun flick. It had good character arcs, wasn't dumb, it wasn't the end all be all of movies this year, but it was original, and clever. And that is well appreciated.

Absolutely, I had avoided most of the press leading up to this movie, and I enjoyed it a LOT. An easy 8/10 for me, possibly more. Not the best movie of 2012 (that's between Avengers/Dredd/Lawless for me), but still a great movie.

 

[ZaCHw117]

Just saw this. Incredible.

 

[IrishJedi]

Going to see this again tonight with the Rian Johnson In-Theater Audio Commentary loaded and ready on my iPhone.

 

[ZaCHw117]

Interesting, how does it work?

 

[IrishJedi]

Interesting, how does it work?

I got the link off of Johnson's Tumblr blog. It's a single MP3 file you basically download for free and then put on your device and then listen along (with headphones, of course, while watching the movie in the theater). The first couple minutes of the file tell you exactly when to pause it and how to sync it up with the film:

https://soundcloud.com/rcjohnso/looper-theatrical-commentary

This is a track he recorded specifically for this reason. The commentary on the DVD/Blu-ray will be different.

I have it all sync'ed up. About to head out and see it again with this. I'll post when I get back.

 

[ZaCHw117]

That's pretty awesome.

 

[Darth Vader]

finally saw it in theater wow pretty awesome only problem i had with the film was the rainmaker whenever he did that thing i kept laughing

 

[IrishJedi]

Very cool with the commentary, and I like that it's more technical than average commentaries. He even goes into focus pulling a couple of times. Good stuff.

 

[tylerdurden]

yeah, loved how johnson went into technical detail. it was almost like attending a filmmaking class. as for the film, i think johnson's really growing into a true auteur, if there is such a thing left in this world. he still suffers from some occasional storytelling quirks for quirk's sake, but overall i loved looper.

i also liked this review (here) that took the concept of the film and made it a self vs self interview. funny!

 

[DFanatic]

Wow, just saw it! Great movie, the gf and I loved it. One of the best, most "realistic" dystopian future I have seen in a movie. The demise of currency and rise of tangible silver and gold, the cars, the decay of society, the realistic "advanced technology". All top notch.

The ending was alright though. Kind wish they had killed the kid. Like someone mentioned before, the Rainmaker existed without any previous intervention of Joe. He should have let Old Joe take his chance and end his reign of terror before it even started.