Hot Toys Terminator 2 1:6 T-800

[snoop101]

I still wish they were doing T1 figures instead.

 

[MaulFan]

They will eventually, now that we know for sure they're visiting the older Terminator films, I have no doubt new T1 stuff is coming.

 

[Wanderer]

That's the annoying thing with Hot Toys. whenever a character or licence is announced we naturally speculate what we'll get and what configuration. DX is almost always mentioned yet even now, 2 figures in we have no idea why DX has been set apart as a new type of MMS line rather than an evolution, and we don't know what characters or licences they have lined up for future releases. This leaves us in the should I/shouldn't I buy now or later way of thinking which annoys the crap out of me. On one hand it's nice to get these suprises, never knowing what figure will be released next. However, I prefer to know where I stand meaning when a new licence is announced like T2, tell us exactly what figures are going to be released and how many variations so I can make an informed decision as to what to buy. But no, as fan centric as Hot Toys make themselves to be, they know how to exploit the fan boy to maximise their profits

 

[snoop101]

Exactly. Its all marketing.

 

[MaulFan]

I don't think any company is ever really in a position to share what they're going to put out, with licensed product, you could want to do a lot, only get approved for some, or ultimately decide it not worth your effort to release something.

With this T2 license, they may have a plan right now for what they want to do, but until they do prototypes, get ideas approved or not by the license holder, or weigh in sales of items to see if it's worth their effort to release a figure, it's not wise to release a list.

I'd imagine, with Salvation, HT probably had Kyle Reese lined up early on as a potential figure, waited on fan reaction to make their choices and probably scrapped him as a bad business choice. Providing information up front pretty much means a committment, it's not in their best interest to committ that far ahead, then they'd be stuck making poor selling figures because they said they would and for a few folks it'd piss them off not to follow through. Releasing information as they're ready to sell it is the only way to protect their business interests. It's not just HT, Sideshow probably develops much more as they go, and certain factors dictate what actually comes out and when and you can't just up front say we're going to do this, this and this.

What they can do, and should do, is just release things in a way that's reasonable to the collector. Like with this T2 license, if you're ever going to DX a figure, do it first, make the original figure DX and be done, don't do 1 or 2 standard figures and then take them further and combine them into 1 DX set.

HT's walking on eggshells right now, with DX Batman, Joker and BD Iron Man, they've shown they'll tap into the fanbase's desire for the best releasing improved versions of figures people bought up the first time around, but, as we're seeing from the spread paranoia at this site, at some point, if they don't break out of doing that a lot, people will eventually stop buying first versions, I don't know how many rehashes it'll take to reach that point, but there will be a breaking point. Then again, maybe their local market has a totally different perspective on all this and there's no need for them to care about it. While there are a number of consumers outside of their local market, a lot is geared towards that and from what I read, the collecting culture is more respected over there and probably has a much different perspective from us.

 

[Valfar]

Hot Toys best route with this figure would be to offer the 3 in 1 looks we get up until Cyberdyne stand off then the final battle version lastly with a deluxe light up molten steel base with a sturdy arm attached with chains to hang him over the base from the end scene, since that was the most emotional scene in the movie, probally won't happend though.

 

[uscmhicks]

I'll be happy to buy a few versions of Arnold personally but an all in one would be awesome. I just can't see it happening. I'm sure they'll milk this , why wouldn't they ?.

 

[TheObsoleteMan]

Hot Toys best route with this figure would be to offer the 3 in 1 looks we get up until Cyberdyne stand off then the final battle version lastly with a deluxe light up molten steel base with a sturdy arm attached with chains to hang him over the base from the end scene, since that was the most emotional scene in the movie, probally won't happend though.

That's what I think we'll see from this line. T-800 with alternate mall shootout/Cyberdyne gear, T-1000 and one-armed final battle T-800. I'd be surprised if they do anything more from T2 than those 3.

 

[Valfar]

The reason i suggest the crazy idea for a deluxe base with the battle damage version is because Arnie did not do too much after the T-1000 F'ed him up, other then blast a nade into him so, this figure is more of a true display piece IMO hence throw in a mini dio to go with it, helps justify spending $150 or so on this figure.

 

[Pass Da Joint]

Hot Toys best route with this figure would be to offer the 3 in 1 looks we get up until Cyberdyne stand off then the final battle version lastly with a deluxe light up molten steel base with a sturdy arm attached with chains to hang him over the base from the end scene, since that was the most emotional scene in the movie, probably won't happen though.

Geez...I hope that doesn't happen.....

 

[Valfar]

Geez...I hope that doesn't happen.....

Ahhh why naat?.

 

[Matt S]

This should be a hot line for Hot Toys; long as the prices are not above $200, I am all in....!

 

[a-dev]

All the possible parts and extras based on my memory of the film:

-3 heads
-muscle arms
-alternate endo-revealing arm
-alternate battle damaged endo arm
-clean base body
-battledamaged base body, including chest and knee (perhaps arms seperate)
-fresh jacket
-bullet-hole jacket
-final BD phase jacket with shredded left arm
-potentially an in between weathered bullet-hole jacket
-black t-shirt
-potentially black t-shirt with bullet holes
-grey t-shirt
-grey t-shirt with ripped open chest
-1 pair undamaged pants
-1 pair pants with torn up left knee
-sunglasses
-shotgun
-Rosebox
-handgun
-Grenade launcher
-grenade bandolier
-mini-gun and ammo bag
-sarahs m-16 machine gun
-SWAT teargas launcher
-gas masks
-axe

Its just now clear to me how much decision making HT has to go through on this character alone. How many versions to do, what to include and not include on each. Damn,

 

[Khev]

Wow! Amazing!

 

[thenammagazine]

Hot Toys best route with this figure would be to offer the 3 in 1 looks we get up until Cyberdyne stand off then the final battle version lastly with a deluxe light up molten steel base with a sturdy arm attached with chains to hang him over the base from the end scene, since that was the most emotional scene in the movie, probally won't happend though.

Not really. That would be OUR best route. HT's best route would be to release a normal version, followed by a BD version and then offer a "DX-style" version both previous variations, a single body with a 3rd headsculpt and accessories to create a "final battle" version. That option would bank them the most $$$ by milking collectors on individual figure releases.

Unfortunately, as MF has suggested, it'll wind up hurting them in the end. People will eventually not buy 1st editions which hurts HT. 1st editions will flood the market upon release of latter editions decreasing the value of the collectibles and those who pick them up cheaper, might not pick up the DX or just wait for early editions to be dumped below market value instead of buying them at retail, which again, hurts HT. With those who dumped the 1st editions getting a fraction of what they paid, they'll feel burned and pull a wait and see. Wash, rinse, repeat for 2nd editions, etc. It's a vicious cycle that only ends up hurting HT in the end. This is something that many companies don't really realize until it's already too late. It'll just be a matter of "did we get enough while the getting was good?"

 

[A.L.I.E.N]

I just want the steel mill version were half his face is ?????ked up and arm crushed!

 

[CelticPredator]

I'm good with just the T2 Arnold. However, I would DX the T1.

Tech Noir and Police Shoot out/ Final battle.....s

 

[plasmid303]

I'm of the opinion that they should just make every figure they produce a DX (but only if reasonably applicable).

Granted, I could see arguments against it -- the price and the fact - yes, fact - that HT does better and better with multiple attempts at a particular character.

 

[JustinLuck]

I'm excited to see this figure. But I still say that the slope and size of the chest is exaggerated and Hot Toys got a bit too enthusiastic with his muscle mass. It's like when women want breast implants; they think the larger the better and end up with cantaloupes for boobs.

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[Sined]

JustinLuck, that's a solid point of view. I'm 100% agree with you.
I still hope that the neck will be sculpted also, from this shots the head & neck is a separate elements & that's why neck doesn't look to impressive. Without it there will be no trademark effect of stoop.
Also - the zippers are black & they must be silver.