HKFC * Hot Toys - Howard Chan Q&A

[batfan08]

A "hit" gets a rotten rating and a split by critics? Interesting logic. What do you mean "start" with Batman & Superman? That's pretty much all DC has ever done. Or are you referring to starting to copy Marvel's blue print? That would make more sense. Who's been waiting to see Superman and Batman origin stories in film again? DC has been rehashing them ad nauseum. Maybe in 5 years they can have Justin Bieber don Superman's cape and do origins again.

I said it was a hit with AUDIENCES. It has a 77%, and, as far as the critics go, it was 4% below a "Fresh" rating, so it's hardly the level of rotten that you're referring to. It also had an A- CinemaScore, and a 7.9 user score on Metacritic. It also made over $600 million, so don't question my logic. As for Justice League, I'd hardly say that they're copying Marvel's Blueprint. Last time I checked, Marvel didn't have any team up films before the team up film, and, on that note, outside of Superman/Batman, we don't know what DC's plan is.

As for starting with Superman and Batman, it makes perfect sense. In the Pantheon of Super Heroes, those two are at the top of Mount Olympus. They're the original superheroes, and, for years, even though they were among the few to be put in films by DC (though, technically, nearly the entire Justice League roster has been in film or television at one point or another), they were never in the same film; in the same universe. Why, may I ask, wouldn't they want to start off with their two biggest franchises?

The "rehashing" comment is a bit unnecessary, as well. The last time Superman's origin was in theaters was in 1978, and Batman Begins marks the first time Batman's origin was ever "definitively" tackled, and, on top of that, again, we don't know how they're going to portray Batman, so, again, I'd hardly say that your "rehashing" statement is justified. You're basing your entire argument on your own assumptions, and, quite frankly, it's falling apart.

 

[batfan08]

Come on Batfan, yeah i know your not a huge Ironman fan. I'm a casual Ironman fan, i have Mark 1-3 and 7, thats it. I'm a Batman fan as well. But i mean... lets face it.. yeah.. Hot Toys right now is technically Stark Toys, but if you magically were appointed CEO of Hot Toys for a year, we all know it would instantly become Bat Toys.

Batman '89, Batman Returns, maybe some Schumacher Bats, most of Bat West's major Villans, Arkham Asylum, City, AND Origins figures, and missing Nolan figures like Ras Al Ghul, John Blake, Com. Gordon, Fox, Alfred. Maybe dip into some Year One or DKR figures. Come on... you know i'm right.

It just so happens the CEO was more of an IM fan, that also shows love for Batman too (out of 14 DX's 7 of them are from Batman).

Nope, I'd get the Arkham stuff out, and the Returns and 66 stuff that was already announced, and, while I would tackle some of those other characters and/or licenses, I wouldn't sacrifice other licenses to focus solely on those. I'd try to focus on getting new, fresh things out that people want to see, and maintaining a diverse amount of products that could satisfy a variety of customers. With the exception of Marvel Studios and Iron Man licenses and/or figures. All of that stuff would be eradicated. I'd try to preserve what little collectible nature my company still had by stopping the already rampant over saturation where it stood.

However, on the Marvel Studios note, I would tackle new licenses like Guardians of the Galaxy and Ant-Man, while providing collectors with the main looks for each character in their respective films from all Marvel Studios productions.

 

[Hellion]

The only one left to do.

And the best......

Wow I don't think I ever realized how bad Ceasar Romeros bottom teeth were.

 

[Y4NK33 PL4N3T]

I said it was a hit with AUDIENCES. It has a 77%, and, as far as the critics go, it was 4% below a "Fresh" rating, so it's hardly the level of rotten that you're referring to. It also had an A- CinemaScore, and a 7.9 user score on Metacritic. It also made over $600 million, so don't question my logic.

Actually, you called it rotten before I did. And I'll question your logic as I please, thanks.

As for Justice League, I'd hardly say that they're copying Marvel's Blueprint. Last time I checked, Marvel didn't have any team up films before the team up film

Hence the reason why Marvel is ahead in the game, they had the original idea and executed it to the tune of a zillion dollars world wide, with fans clamoring for anything and everything relating to the Avengers and Iron Man.

outside of Superman/Batman, we don't know what DC's plan is.

Neither do they, b/c outside of Superman/Batman they've never had a plan. Well, except for biting off Marvel's Avengers with JLA that is.

As for starting with Superman and Batman, it makes perfect sense.

In your mind it does, and that's fine. In the mind of someone who isn't a DC fanboy, there's a dozen Superman/Batman films to choose from already. Seeing them go back to the well on these 2 AGAIN leads me to believe they have no faith in any of their other characters in the entire DC universe to carry a film on their own, and they have no plan to deviate from what they've been doing for nearly 4 decades. It's sad really.

 

[a-dev]

Eh, I'm of the opinion that, when it works, it works phenomenally (DX 08, DX 09, DX 11, and DX 13)

You're not the first I've seen whose included DX13 in the list of figures that PERS looks good on. But that figure isn't out yet. All we've seen is a prototype. It could end up being less than good on the final figure, in fact I'm expecting it to disappoint.

The other figures on your list all have 'makeup' around the eyes so the added shadow created by the thick eyelids is more excusable to the eye. DX13, like DX10, won't have that advantage.

 

[batfan08]

Actually, you called it rotten before I did. And I'll question your logic as I please, thanks.


Hence the reason why Marvel is ahead in the game, they had the original idea and executed it to the tune of a zillion dollars world wide, with fans clamoring for anything and everything relating to the Avengers and Iron Man.


Neither do they, b/c outside of Superman/Batman they've never had a plan. Well, except for biting off Marvel's Avengers with JLA that is.


In your mind it does, and that's fine. In the mind of someone who isn't a DC fanboy, there's a dozen Superman/Batman films to choose from already. Seeing them go back to the well on these 2 AGAIN leads me to believe they have no faith in any of their other characters in the entire DC universe to carry a film on their own, and they have no plan to deviate from what they've been doing for nearly 4 decades. It's sad really.

Jesus, you'd make one hell of a journalist because you sure know how to change context to fit your needs.

Actually, DC did Justice League before The Avengers was even a thought. It was a ****ty TV movie, but still, they clearly had the idea for a JL movie before "The Avengers" hit.

Again, with your own biased assumptions, YOU, nor I, know what THEIR plan is, or was. You're basing "what they do" on the assumption that it's "what YOU think they do," and that kind of fridge logic is hard to take seriously.

You're missing the point, as you continue on your anti-DC rant to defend your precious Marvel. You complain about them "rehashing" the origin, then, when I try to make an argument, you start throwing out "fanboys." The point is that Batman and Superman have never been on the screen TOGETHER. As far as that meaning that they don't have faith in other DC properties, you probably haven't heard that they're making a Flash TV show to tie in with Arrow, did you? It's a start, and it seems like DC are trying to get these characters out there and exposed before tackling them on film.

 

[Y4NK33 PL4N3T]

Jesus, you'd make one hell of a journalist because you sure know how to change context to fit your needs.

Actually, DC did Justice League before The Avengers was even a thought. It was a ****ty TV movie, but still, they clearly had the idea for a JL movie before "The Avengers" hit.

Again, with your own biased assumptions, YOU, nor I, know what THEIR plan is, or was. You're basing "what they do" on the assumption that it's "what YOU think they do," and that kind of fridge logic is hard to take seriously.

You're missing the point, as you continue on your anti-DC rant to defend your precious Marvel. You complain about them "rehashing" the origin, then, when I try to make an argument, you start throwing out "fanboys." The point is that Batman and Superman have never been on the screen TOGETHER. As far as that meaning that they don't have faith in other DC properties, you probably haven't heard that they're making a Flash TV show to tie in with Arrow, did you? It's a start, and it seems like DC are trying to get these characters out there and exposed before tackling them on film.

You're off the rails if you think I'm anti DC, (talk about 'biased assumptions') but that was clear when you were angered by anyone challenging your logic initially. Obviously, we don't sit in on DC board meetings so we don't know for sure what their plan is (does that really need to be stated?), so I'm going by their history which is 99.9% Superman/Batman and their future which they just announced which again is Superman/Batman. Not complicated. So there was a JLA, you got me there - must have been a hit. I'm a huge fan of the Arrow show fyi, would love to see him in film as well & yes I know about the Flash production. Oh, there's your biased assumptions again - good job being a hypocrite.

 

[batfan08]

My apologies. I can get a little hypocritical, without realizing it, in the midst of a heated argument. That being said, I didn't say that you're anti-DC, I said that your "rant/argument" was, and I wasn't angered by the "logic" thing, but I was mildly irritated by the way it was presented. It seemed like you were trying to cheeky, so I apologize again, if I misinterpreted that. With that being said, their history may very well not be anything like what we know. Hell, they could've been trying to get an idea for Justice League decades ago. So that's why I try to differentiate the "public" from the "private."

My point with Arrow and The Flash was that, perhaps, they're trying to use them as vehicles. Not to actually tie them into the films, but to raise public awareness about the characters. I'm just saying that, with the variety of different options available, the fact that they went ahead with Green Arrow and, now, The Flash tells me that perhaps we shouldn't be so quick to discount them. Not to mention the Justice League Dark project that GDT's trying to get going.

 

[Y4NK33 PL4N3T]

My apologies. I can get a little hypocritical, without realizing it, in the midst of a heated argument. That being said, I didn't say that you're anti-DC, I said that your "rant/argument" was, and I wasn't angered by the "logic" thing, but I was mildly irritated by the way it was presented. It seemed like you were trying to cheeky, so I apologize again, if I misinterpreted that. With that being said, their history may very well not be anything like what we know. Hell, they could've been trying to get an idea for Justice League decades ago. So that's why I try to differentiate the "public" from the "private."

My point with Arrow and The Flash was that, perhaps, they're trying to use them as vehicles. Not to actually tie them into the films, but to raise public awareness about the characters. I'm just saying that, with the variety of different options available, the fact that they went ahead with Green Arrow and, now, The Flash tells me that perhaps we shouldn't be so quick to discount them. Not to mention the Justice League Dark project that GDT's trying to get going.

No worries mate, apologies as well if you took anything as a personal attack (or cheeky though I'm not 100% sure what that is ). I loved the Arrow series, can't emphasize that enough (really want a 1/6) and truly hope Flash is equally as fun to watch. It would be interesting to see DC weave their characters into each others worlds, I was just hoping to see it introduced by anyone other than Superman/Batman

 

[batfan08]

No worries mate, apologies as well if you took anything as a personal attack (or cheeky though I'm not 100% sure what that is ). I loved the Arrow series, can't emphasize that enough (really want a 1/6) and truly hope Flash is equally as fun to watch. It would be interesting to see DC weave their characters into each others worlds, I was just hoping to see it introduced by anyone other than Superman/Batman

To be completely honest, neither do I, I was just trying to come up with a word to fit my interpretation. As for Arrow, I absolutely agree. This was one hell of a season, and he's got a design that would make for an awesome figure. I'm very curious to see Flash, as well, and, I must say that it would be kind of neat if DC was able to not only get a DC movie universe going, but a separate, television universe, as well. It might even give them a leg up on Marvel, where people thought they didn't have a plan of their own.

 

[Mix Master]

i think its better that HT is getting all of ironman out of their system now then late this year-early next year they can announce other figures. dont forget HT is a business and when one area sells out you focus on that for the time being

 

[Y4NK33 PL4N3T]

To be completely honest, neither do I, I was just trying to come up with a word to fit my interpretation. As for Arrow, I absolutely agree. This was one hell of a season, and he's got a design that would make for an awesome figure. I'm very curious to see Flash, as well, and, I must say that it would be kind of neat if DC was able to not only get a DC movie universe going, but a separate, television universe, as well. It might even give them a leg up on Marvel, where people thought they didn't have a plan of their own.

 

[SAB]

i think its better that HT is getting all of ironman out of their system now then late this year-early next year they can announce other figures. dont forget HT is a business and when one area sells out you focus on that for the time being

You think that doing a ton of Iron Man figures now will result in other licenses being focused on and not just another wave of Iron Man figures (and Batman)

How adorable

 

[Y4NK33 PL4N3T]

You think that doing a ton of Iron Man figures now will result in other licenses being focused on and not just another wave of Iron Man figures (and Batman)

How adorable

 

[TheFiend]

No way I'd another 1/6 Ledger Joker. Not a full boxed figure at least. Maybe a coat upgrade if they got it right this time. Maybe a sculpt but it would have to be mind blowing, which I doubt.

 

[Taibhse]

...With the exception of Marvel Studios and Iron Man licenses and/or figures. All of that stuff would be eradicated. I'd try to preserve what little collectible nature my company still had by stopping the already rampant over saturation where it stood...

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[a-dev]

You think that doing a ton of Iron Man figures now will result in other licenses being focused on and not just another wave of Iron Man figures (and Batman)

How adorable

Before we know it it'll be Avengers 2 and Iron Man will have never left. And if theres no other cinematic release they'll do comic versions or something.

 

[Uncanny Web-Slinger]

Nah, I'd very much prefer that the DX line stay DC exclusive. Marvel already takes up enough of HT, at least let the DC people have something that Marvel doesn't infect like a disease. Besides, none of these guys have anything on Batman, The Joker, Superman (we should get a Superman DX of some sort before ANY Marvel character), etc. Is Iron Man really that iconic? He's had a resurgence these past 5 years, sure, but what does that say about the status of a character when, out of a 50 year history, he's only been popular for 1/10th of that entire life cycle. I think people misinterpret "popular" for "iconic."

Indeed, Iron Man is popular but not iconic.

Now Wolverine and Spider-Man, they are iconic.

Marvel killed it with their character's solo films

Agreed. Spider-Man, X-Men & Blade

Before we know it it'll be Avengers 2 and Iron Man will have never left. And if theres no other cinematic release they'll do comic versions or something.

Or 2.0s of the same armours all over again, for a third time

You think that doing a ton of Iron Man figures now will result in other licenses being focused on and not just another wave of Iron Man figures (and Batman)

How adorable

 

[Malvictus]

You have Magneto as your avatar and fail to mention him in your list of iconic characters? hang your head in shame!

 

[Mix Master]

haha so much rear end hurt in here