If you think that Gunn turned the Guardians into a bunch of twats for cheap laughs then we must have been watching different movies. Yes there are a lot of jokes and shenanigans but there's also a lot of heart and emotion in every movie they appear in. Gunn knows when to use humour and when to put a stake through your heart pretty well.
Weird right? Idk why people want it to be like the comics when it’s pretty much just a tribute to the comics. Like yea it’s great to see this stuff in love action sometimes but I’m passed the days where I really want comic accuracy or expect it. I know they are gonna mess something up
The old stories exist but will get retroactively retconned, and the characters I've spent decades following will get "makeovers" continuity be damned. That to me is a problem.Again, not ruining anything, you can still read the comics if you want the comics. This doesn't affect them whatsoever.
I don't like comics, and personally I think most of the designs you show as comparison in these threads look terrible anyway. The High Evolutionary you showed looks like a high tech space gimp.
Who gives a ****, they're still there, it's up to you to decide if you still enjoy them or not. Sounds to me like you want to be upset and are actively looking for a reason to be
.Adaptations are not 1:1 recreations. Books, comics, video games, etc. do not and cannot translate exactly to TV/Movie.
Well, I guess in [current day] we can't be displeased about anything and voice it. All we should do is suck it up, shut up and hand it all over. Clap clap clap, only positives, only warm embraces and acceptance. Keep criticisms and personal opinions close to the chest, unguard them only to your mother....Who gives a ****, they're still there, it's up to you to decide if you still enjoy them or not. Sounds to me like you want to be upset and are actively looking for a reason to be
Adaptations are not 1:1 recreations. Books, comics, video games, etc. do not and cannot translate exactly to TV/Movie.
I'm over Marvel and the MCU anyway, apart from this movie; it's the only thing I still care about and if it didn't have Gunn attached to it then I probably wouldn't give a **** about it either.
Not what I'm saying, but you are acting like this absolutely ruins everything that you love and you can never enjoy it again just because some suit made a decision you don't like. All the stuff you still love is there for you to enjoy.
The source material is a bunch of weirdly drawn people in horrible spandex suits, I wouldn't wanna spend $300 on that
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All epic characters. helped define the genre...
That's a consequence of the changes, the core issue are the needless deviations themselves. They're adaptations and I want to see them adapted as close to the source as possible. The source was good enough to stand for 40, 50, 60 years. I won't just accept an entirely different take just because the general audience thinks the source is "silly". That's my stance and I'll stick to it.
For every bad design there's two good ones. What, muscled speedo-wearing white guy is ridiculous, but short and pudgy MesoAmerican speedo-wearing guy is some great design? MCU Namor is an OC that I would've loved if he was an actual OC and they put in some work instead of doing the bare minimum. It's not the aesthetics or new story that are the problem, it's the lack of research, effort and that it's billed as an adaptation when it's an entirely new thing. I've already said in the WF that I never liked the speedo look, however Namor's had enough good costumes over the years. Capes have tons of outfits to choose from, or they have one classic look. When you pick a zany character like the Evolutionary, I except you to pull it off, otherwise why bother? Capes have no worse designs than other genre fiction stories and IPs and I don't get the argument. Star Wars is full of funky aliens. 99% of Star Trek characters look like dorks. Fantasy is 90% Tolkien-inspired Medieval Britain. But that's the aesthetic of each one of them, and either you embrace it or it stops being what it is.The source material is a bunch of weirdly drawn people in horrible spandex suits, I wouldn't wanna spend $300 on that
Anyone that wants a figure of this must be joking.
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Exactly. The muscled pulp man of action is a lost genre these days. The most recently created such character we had was, what, Turok? And nobody ever does anything with Turok. He's a dinosaur killing badass mixed with aliens and all that good stuff, and nothing.All epic characters. helped define the genre...
I agree with you entirely, Gunn's great at what he does. Don't get me wrong, I love the movies, however there's a part of me that would have liked to see a more faithful adaption of Jim Starlin and Chris Claremont's stories and characters.
I’ve given up on “faithful” adaptations. It will never ever happen because the filmmakers just have to exert their own personal vision on it plus there is a story committee/brains trust behind that and too many producers and studios behind that all with their own opinions. It’s a miracle that movies get made and some of them are actually ok.
They finally adapt the absolutely bonkers character that is the High Evolutionary and they give us *drumroll* a guy in a pleather outfit! WOW! Who needs all the crazy comic book concepts and aesthetics when you can just stick all of your palls in awful pleather outfits and call it a day? Seriously, how do you go from this:
To this?
It's literally just a guy. Why are they doing this? Why? Why waste all the cool cosmic stuff?
Last time I read X-O he abandoned the gal he spent an entire run trying to marry, returned back to Earth to find her getting ****** by some other guy and said "lol I wish you well". Why would you break up the couple literally as soon as the run's over? Why do any of that? If you can't get in the mindset of the character you're writing, don't create such a character, simple as that. Although I will say that Aric's constant whining over "muh Romans" got on my nerves, so I always liked the concept more than the execution.
I'm not even acknowledging Taskmaster as the same person. It's another character in name only. The look isn't there, the backstory is different, it's just another OC with an existing name slapped on top for marketing reasons.I'm with you. Still not over what they did to Taskmaster.
Another sore spot is Deathlok. The original character looks like every 12 year old boy's wet dream:
Yet they went with this for Agents of Shield:
Same reason why there are awful quips and self-deprecating jokes every 10 seconds. The more "out there" they go and the "sillier" it all becomes, it takes skill to pull it off and make people immersed. So rather than try, they just go "wink wink, ain't this hecking silly" and the general audience doesn't feel like they're nerds, so they just watch their dumbed down popcorn flick and that's it. No stakes, no pathos, nothing. When in doubt, just turn everything into a joke and make sure you're in on it. Then nobody can ridicule you because you're doing to yourself already.
You are right about everything, which is why I've learned to live with Thanos no longer being the universe's biggest Death groupie. But if you're gonna do something as nonsensical as the High Evolutionary, why not go all the way and give him the damn mask and suit? If you're gonna adapt Dune, why not try a bit harder than cliche brutalism? I'm not expecting the comic book monologues of Adam Warlock to come to life, but come on, throw me a bone. To this day I don't think any cape flick has satisfied me as an adaptation. I'll always look at the MCU as a watered down Ultimate universe, and the original Iron Man remains the only genuine film. Brannagh's Thor could've been something too, but it was too early. Still, you can definitely see the difference between Thor 1 and 4.
This is the one thing I respect about Snyder's DC films: at least they embrace the cosmic zaniness. Of course, their defense mechanism is throwing in heaps of melodramatic pseudo-philosophy, but at least the cosmic nonsense stays intact.
Yeah, I'm really tired of this approach.
