Hot Toys – MMS183 The Dark Knight Rises Bane Figure

[PopCultKid]

Re: Hot Toys – MMS183 - The Dark Knight Rises: Bane Collectible Figure

THIS


But I feel like the people who didn't like TDKR pretend TDK had zero plot holes or leaps in logic what-so-ever and that's simply not true.


I could sit here and say things like "Why does Jokers hair become more green when he takes the mask off in the prologue" or "How is Harvey not in constant pain and how are we able to understand him speaking" or the biggest one to me how would Joker and his guys leave the building after dropping Rachel out a window and more importantly why does Batman not care.

These are pretty stupid things to complain about and thats the same things I hear when people hate on TDKR

I wasn't as dissapointed with TDKR as others but I can say that it did get more far fetched than the first two flicks. But at the end if the day if you looking for true life realism your not going to find it in ANY super hero based movie . Really if you looking for true realism your not going to find it in any movie period; everything gets Hollywooded up regardless of the subject matter to make it interesting enough to put on screen.

Nolan's darker, more mature, more realistic take remained consistent enough for me thru the trilogy and while I really like all 3, TDKR is the weakest IMO. At the end of the day you can't be too nitpicky with most movies (especially comic based ones) because they're just movies. You have to let a lot of s__t slide. And I always do but there is one thing that always gets me in TDK; when BM is falling out of the window with Rachel they were falling for a couple hundred feet and he opens his cape about 5 feet before they hit the car and that's supposed to break their fall. I ate everything else that was F'd to me and accepted it but that was the one moment that gets me every time. That could've definitely been done better

 

[paramoremcr88]

Re: Hot Toys – MMS183 - The Dark Knight Rises: Bane Collectible Figure

stunning! This is further proof that this figure is up there with HT's most photo realistic ever.

I think the lack of hair and facial features (mask) is a big part as to why it looks so real.

Many thanks guys, glad you like the pics! Thanks for the great comments!

Bane certainly is one of the best sculpts HT have ever done!

 

[deathbyexile]

Re: Hot Toys – MMS183 - The Dark Knight Rises: Bane Collectible Figure

My guess would be Starbucks

bane doesn't go to starbucks! come on, he's way too antiestablishmentarianist for that!

: D

 

[ZsaszSays]

Re: Hot Toys – MMS183 - The Dark Knight Rises: Bane Collectible Figure

I was trying to figure out why some of you were displaying your Bane with a shotgun, then I saw why when I was watching TDKR last night. Its literally one second of the movie.

 

[Njits]

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Would have been quite hilarious if he just blew Batman's head off. xD

MOVIE OVER! The Dark Knight did not Rise! Trololoolol.

 

[Alex Logan]

Re: Hot Toys – MMS183 - The Dark Knight Rises: Bane Collectible Figure

What you're refering to is more suspension of disbelief type things then problems with the story. No film is completely without fault, but I do think DKR suffers some glaring problems. The biggest problem with DKR, in my opinion, was the 8 year gap between TDK and DKR, Batman being retired for those 8 years and Bruce's injuries as Batman. Together they don't make sense. He would only be that "F" ed up if he HAD been Batman for those 8 years, and he wasn't really Batman long enough in DK trilogy time to inspire young kids to draw chalk bat symbols hoping he returned. The film needed one more draft getting rid of two of those problems (and it didn't really matter which two).

To me, DKR felt more like a fourth film than a third, and I would have perfered they had treated the story as if there where Batman related events that occured between TDK and DKR (similar to what Star Wars did with ANH and ESB) and have Bruce retire at the begining of the film because "He is too injured" or just remove his injuries to the extent the movie presented in the begining. If you ignore the first 20 minutes, DKR is a great film. The film as is, IS good, but does suffer some WTF problems.

This is only "IF" you subscribe to the thoery that Bruce was Batman for a little more than a year and I'm not in that "camp". I know many people think that the Joker's line in TDK says it all, but I think his line could be open to interpretation. The reason being is that there is no way that there could have been such a short gap between BB and TDK. Consider all that would have to happen in only 6 months:

Bruce/Batman

1. The Bat Bunker is built, complete with all his gear and an elevator that doubles for a storage container, in totally secrecy.

2. His pentouse is fitted with a secret "panic room", which is really another place to store his gear just in case he needs it.

3. Hundreds of cameras are installed over the city, also in totally secrecy.

4. All this, with only Fox and maybe Alfred to help him, and he still manages to take out 90% of the drug dealers, put the "fear" of Batman into every criminal in Gotham and scare the entire mob into having their meetings during the day.

The Joker

1. Managaes to build up a "legend" among the criminals in Gotham so fierce that no one will cross him and anyone is willing to join is gang.

Rachel

1. A woman who's known Bruce his whole life, thought about him the entire seven years he was gone, but somehow she's able to move on when Harvery comes to town.

2. She's not only in a romantic relationship with Dent, but she's ready to marry him.

Cops and lawyers

1. Warm up to the idea that Batman means business and that they shouldn't be afraid to go after the big crime bosses.

The Mob

1. All the other mob bosses pop up out of no where.

2. Maroni steps in for Falcone and everyone else gets in line.

So if you go by the Joker's statement then even more suspension of disbelief is needed and many people think TDK is without fault. So essentially, The Dark Knight Rises is paying for perceived sins that Batman Begins and The Dark Knight were apparently excused from.

I agree with you for the most part. The 8 year gap really doesn't bother me because I'm able to suspened disbelief. After all it's a Batman movie and someone people need to remember that.

 

[deathbyexile]

Re: Hot Toys – MMS183 - The Dark Knight Rises: Bane Collectible Figure

you're missing the most obvious one: gordon's children age about 5-7 years between the first two movies.

 

[Alex Logan]

Re: Hot Toys – MMS183 - The Dark Knight Rises: Bane Collectible Figure

you're missing the most obvious one: gordon's children age about 5-7 years between the first two movies.

Thank you.

 

[Burning Saber]

Re: Hot Toys – MMS183 - The Dark Knight Rises: Bane Collectible Figure

All very good points, but I wasn't basing my hypothesis on the Joker's line of a year. My Favorite part of TDK was that it insinuated that Batman had been operating consistantly between the first and second movies, and I always imagined Bruce had been Batman for a couple of years before TDK. What I should have said is I only think Bruce would have been that "F"ed up if he had been Batman for the 8 years in addition to the unspecified previous years.

My problem isn't the 8 year gap in and of itself, but in addition to him being retired for those 8 years and being so messed up. They don't make sense and I think would have been better if he had been Batman for 8 years and he retired because he was that messed up, or he was retired for those 8 years and wasn't as messed up as he was presented. I also didn't like that he retired after Harvey died because it seems counter to how TDK ended. Now, having said that, I rather much enjoyed DKR and still do. But I think it could have been a better film if the 8 year gap had been altered with another rewrite.

 

[cr0w]

Re: Hot Toys – MMS183 - The Dark Knight Rises: Bane Collectible Figure

Put him on the TTM20 tonight. Took some work getting the pants to fit over that massive derriere, but I got it.

 

[BadMuthaDude]

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Batman must be superhuman if it takes many years of nightly crimefighting before he suffers permanent damage.

 

[Alex Logan]

Re: Hot Toys – MMS183 - The Dark Knight Rises: Bane Collectible Figure

All very good points, but I wasn't basing my hypothesis on the Joker's line of a year. My Favorite part of TDK was that it insinuated that Batman had been operating consistantly between the first and second movies, and I always imagined Bruce had been Batman for a couple of years before TDK. What I should have said is I only think Bruce would have been that "F"ed up if he had been Batman for the 8 years in addition to the unspecified previous years.

My problem isn't the 8 year gap in and of itself, but in addition to him being retired for those 8 years and being so messed up. They don't make sense and I think would have been better if he had been Batman for 8 years and he retired because he was that messed up, or he was retired for those 8 years and wasn't as messed up as he was presented. I also didn't like that he retired after Harvey died because it seems counter to how TDK ended. Now, having said that, I rather much enjoyed DKR and still do. But I think it could have been a better film if the 8 year gap had been altered with another rewrite.

Well, I can only imagine that if you were as active as Bruce was for all those years and then you choose to doing nothing but hide in your house for three years it would break your body down. I guess this is a question for a doctor, very nice topic though.

 

[Jon Stark]

Re: Hot Toys – MMS183 - The Dark Knight Rises: Bane Collectible Figure

You know what always really bugged me: Why didn't they just pin Harvey Dent & the cops' deaths on the Joker instead of Batman taking the blame? I always thought Joker's one year comment didn't mean there was one year between BB & TDK. I thought it meant a year from that moment. That Batman's efforts have really started to make changes within the previous year from Joker's perspective. BB ends with a ton of prisoners released and by the beginning of TDK, there are only leftovers like Scarecrow. The mob also seemed desperate as if Batman had been hitting them hard for a while. I just think there are quite a few years between BB & TDK. Maybe 3-5 years.

 

[The Iron Koob]

Re: Hot Toys – MMS183 - The Dark Knight Rises: Bane Collectible Figure

You know what always really bugged me: Why didn't they just pin Harvey Dent & the cops' deaths on the Joker instead of Batman taking the blame? I always thought Joker's one year comment didn't mean there was one year between BB & TDK. I thought it meant a year from that moment. That Batman's efforts have really started to make changes within the previous year from Joker's perspective. BB ends with a ton of prisoners released and by the beginning of TDK, there are only leftovers like Scarecrow. The mob also seemed desperate as if Batman had been hitting them hard for a while. I just think there are quite a few years between BB & TDK. Maybe 3-5 years.

My only reasoning could be that Joker had an alibi? Was he committing a crime somewhere when Dent was running loose? I can't remember

 

[Russell1982]

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You know what always really bugged me: Why didn't they just pin Harvey Dent & the cops' deaths on the Joker instead of Batman taking the blame? I always thought Joker's one year comment didn't mean there was one year between BB & TDK. I thought it meant a year from that moment. That Batman's efforts have really started to make changes within the previous year from Joker's perspective. BB ends with a ton of prisoners released and by the beginning of TDK, there are only leftovers like Scarecrow. The mob also seemed desperate as if Batman had been hitting them hard for a while. I just think there are quite a few years between BB & TDK. Maybe 3-5 years.

My only reasoning could be that Joker had an alibi? Was he committing a crime somewhere when Dent was running loose? I can't remember

At the time Dent had Gordon's family hostage, the Joker was in police custody from the big end fight so I guess they wouldn't be able to pin it on him.

I keep seeing various threads turning into various discussions about the three movies, anyone think we should start a Dark Knight Trilogy thread? Where we can discuss the trilogy, as opposed to the TDKR thread which some people may avoid as they don't like that movie, but still love the first two.

 

[Burning Saber]

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Going back to TDK, I never really understood how the entire plot for stopping the mob hinged on the public image of Harvey Dent. If the police where able to connect all the mobsters together through their money laundering, the fact the DA got hospitalized, went nuts and murdered a bunch of people wouldn't really have much impact on a trial where there was still evidence that connected the mob. It had a nice dramatic moment to it, but Batman really didn't need to take the fall for anything.

 

[ronri]

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Going back to TDK, I never really understood how the entire plot for stopping the mob hinged on the public image of Harvey Dent. If the police where able to connect all the mobsters together through their money laundering, the fact the DA got hospitalized, went nuts and murdered a bunch of people wouldn't really have much impact on a trial where there was still evidence that connected the mob. It had a nice dramatic moment to it, but Batman really didn't need to take the fall for anything.

It's not so much just the idea of stopping the mob, but rather what Harvey represented as a symbol against corruption. Ra's Al Ghul himself said that Gotham was so full of corruption that he was able to infiltrate every single level of its infrastructure. It's easy to say that they could just pile all the evidence against the mob, yet you're ignoring how the whole city can revert the way it was like in BB without any public authorial figure leading everyone with his/her charisma. What Harvey represented was the hope that the people needed to stand up against that corruption and actually have the will to fight back and have their voices heard. The notion that Harvey turned out to be a criminal himself would have demoralized the general public especially considering how everyone else was cautious and pretty hands-off with the prosecution of the mobsters except for Harvey himself. In that regard, Harvey's "heroic" death caused enough of a public uproar which led to the creation of the new act that essentially allowed the police to capture criminals on a more efficient and larger scale.

Admittedly, it's why the big reveal with Bane reciting Gordon's confession felt somewhat underwhelming (not the speech itself but the way that the narrative was handled in terms of showing its effects on the public) considering how a whole chunk of TDK focused on the public voice whereas TDKR barely even touched on that aspect. It didn't help that the majority of the people leading the riots were actually criminals anyway, which practically brushed under the carpet the whole issue of Harvey's death and how the general public would've actually felt about the truth.

 

[TheProcrastinator]

Re: Hot Toys – MMS183 - The Dark Knight Rises: Bane Collectible Figure

You know what always really bugged me: Why didn't they just pin Harvey Dent & the cops' deaths on the Joker instead of Batman taking the blame?

If they had pinned it on Joker there was always a chance that truth would be revealed, since Joker was alive. Plus, not pinning the murders on Joker also had to do with Wayne himself. He felt partly responsible for what happend to Dent and the whole Gotham during the "Joker's reign" and felt that he alone should bear the fallout. From his point of view it wasn't right for anyone else to take the fall for all that happend, plus it actually made the most sense, couse as Gordon said it "he can take it". By taking the blame on himself, he was in best position to make sure the truth would never see the light of day.

Going back to TDK, I never really understood how the entire plot for stopping the mob hinged on the public image of Harvey Dent. If the police where able to connect all the mobsters together through their money laundering, the fact the DA got hospitalized, went nuts and murdered a bunch of people wouldn't really have much impact on a trial where there was still evidence that connected the mob.

In addition to all the things that Ronri wrote about Dent being almost a symbolic figure, there was also the matter of Dent being the only cop in town with ***** and guts enough to do what he did. The main problem wasn't in getting enough evidence to get the mobsters convicted, the problem was having a man who would be willing to do this in the first place. Gotham was almost caricaturally riddled with corruption. And as Gordon implied in BB, everyone was bent, and those who weren't were afraid of those who were. Nobody in the position of authority in Gotham had have any interest in pursuing the mob (lots of people benefited from the earings of organized crime) and those who did were too afraid. Harvey was the only one who was willing to put himself on the line in such a brass way as he did.

 

[Jon Stark]

Re: Hot Toys – MMS183 - The Dark Knight Rises: Bane Collectible Figure

Gordon & Batman COuld of claimed they just foUnd Harvey's body dead and sprinkLed Joker cardS all over his bOdy before they let anyoNe else know. WouLdn't be the fIrst time cards were used to deceiVE us. JuSt a thought...

 

[TheProcrastinator]

Re: Hot Toys – MMS183 - The Dark Knight Rises: Bane Collectible Figure

Such a play would in no way make any potential investigation bulletproof. Not to mention, its not Batman's style to stoop down to forging evidence.