The Dark Knight Rises *SPOILERS*

[devilof76]

He was there almost five months. Liken it to Carl getting up so quick after being fatally shot.

And yes, the rope was put there by prisoners attempting to escape. That's why it goes no higher that the blocks no one could get past (excepting Talia). The rope used to lower prisoners was the rope Bruce threw down after he escaped.

Didn't they cover this **** on Sesame Street?

 

[K07]

You don't think the tabloids would be reporting the hell out of Wayne being back? Those next to a paper reporting Batman being back would be obvious to anybody with eyes to see them.

Yes, they would be reporting that. They'd also be reporting all the stupid things he does like buying hotels, be seen swimming in a fountain, coming and leaving to all sorts of places with multiple women, flying around in helicopters, cancelling ballets, crashing his Lambo to catch a light, etc. It seems like he's a multibillionaire idiot with not a care in the world other than having a good time. I would not immediately think that one person in a city of 30 million people must be the Batman. A lot of people move into a city in a month's time. Just because he and Batman are both high profile doesn't automatically mean they're one and the same.

Also, think about the ballet alibi used in TDK. That was an intentional use of deception to throw off any conspiracy theorists. The same thing happened in BB inadvertently when he was drunk at a party and burned his house down. No one was there to see him do it but they saw him wasted. Alfred could have been a witness and gone along with that story and the press ran with it. How could a wasted drunk man or a man who takes off with an entire ballet company be Batman all at the same time? There's nothing to indicate he didn't have other red herrings for potential police investigations into his connection to Batman.

 

[ZaCHw117]

He was there almost five months. Liken it to Carl getting up so quick after being fatally shot.

And yes, the rope was put there by prisoners attempting to escape. That's why it goes no higher that the blocks no one could get past (excepting Talia). The rope used to lower prisoners was the rope Bruce threw down after he escaped.

Didn't they cover this **** on Sesame Street?

Nam grew up on terrible arnie flicks and WWF, so I guess it's a little harder for him to grasp.


i keed nami

 

[Irvy]

I miss the good old days when we didn't have the net and we enjoyed movies at face value

 

[crows]

You've said this several times. I highly doubt it'd be that easy. Think of ALL the news in a city that supposedly contains 30 million people that would be published over the course of a month or so. Think of all the national and world news that gets published over the course of a month or so. Now imagine if some bimbo playboy billionaire (with the integrity of those fine ladies Kim Kardashian and Paris Hilton) had moved into a city and in the same month, some mysterious masked vigilante had started taking out mob leaders and drug dealers. A mysterious/masked man that is rarely seen and blown out of proportion by the criminal underworld and made into a mythical monster. You would immediately suspect some bimbo celeb gossip magazine coverboy to be that vigilante? I sure as heck wouldn't.

And as for the connection between WE tech being used, the only thing that would be noticeable to some people would be the Tumbler. No one sees any of the other gadgets Bruce uses up close. And how many people would know about some shelved military project? The developers, yes. But they don't appear to work at WE anymore or at least in Gotham City. And even if they did, so Batman uses WE gadgets. So what? So did Bane. He stole them. Batman could have done the same and Fox could have reported a security breach. Not hard to suspend disbelief. But if you'd rather pick apart a COMIC BOOK movie, be my guest.

well I only said it twice. not several times.

And, the difference here is that Bruce Wayne is a local and he is not a celebrity. He is the owner of the biggest company in the city and he was declared dead.

If Kim Kardashian was declared dead and came back years later you Bet it would be in every paper. Specially in her hometown. Bruce didn't just come back he came back from being dead. That's a big deal.

I mean Gordon at least should have figured it out.

 

[Voorhees27]

Joseph Gordon-Levitt is the new Batman.

 

[SnakeDoctor]

You don't think the tabloids would be reporting the hell out of Wayne being back? Those next to a paper reporting Batman being back at a newsstand, supermarket rack, etc., would be obvious to anybody with eyes to see them.

Wayne didn't go anywhere, so he didn't come back. He was a spoiled hermit holed up in his mansion.

SnakeDoc

 

[ZaCHw117]

well I only said it twice. not several times.

And, the difference here is that Bruce Wayne is a local and he is not a celebrity. He is the owner of the biggest company in the city and he was declared dead.

If Kim Kardashian was declared dead and came back years later you Bet it would be in every paper. Specially in her hometown. Bruce didn't just come back he came back from being dead. That's a big deal.

I mean Gordon at least should have figured it out.

While you may have a valid point, Batman Begins never really does tell exactly how long between Bruce being back and the first sighting of the batman. Could have been a week or six months.

 

[Kamandi]

The rope is initially used to lower prisoners into the prison. Not meant to have prisoners try to climb up. LOL at people in this thread who overlook such easy details.

Also, the hook for the rope isn't at the top. Therefore a hook above wouldn't do anything more but take away slack from the rope. (They us it so they don't die when trying to jump, not for climbing purposes.)

Someone climped partway up that wall and tapped a hook in to catch people trying to make the jump. they could do the same thing further up. And then... they could do the same thing further up... see a pattern?

1) Loop a rope around the hook.
2) swing
3) You throw me the idol, I throw you the rope.

 

[SnakeDoctor]

well I only said it twice. not several times.

And, the difference here is that Bruce Wayne is a local and he is not a celebrity. He is the owner of the biggest company in the city and he was declared dead.

If Kim Kardashian was declared dead and came back years later you Bet it would be in every paper. Specially in her hometown. Bruce didn't just come back he came back from being dead. That's a big deal.

I mean Gordon at least should have figured it out.

If Kim Kardiashian came back from the dead, and a crimefighting vigilante emerged at the same time ... I'm not sure I'd make the connection.

(one of the weirder sentences I've ever typed)

SnakeDoc

 

[thenammagazine]

He was there almost five months. Liken it to Carl getting up so quick after being fatally shot.

And yes, the rope was put there by prisoners attempting to escape. That's why it goes no higher that the blocks no one could get past (excepting Talia). The rope used to lower prisoners was the rope Bruce threw down after he escaped.

Didn't they cover this **** on Sesame Street?

Edit: NVM, it's not worth feeding the troll.

 

[K07]

well I only said it twice. not several times.

Semantics. And people that nitpick things like that aren't worth arguing with.... You tend to repeat yourself over and over in this thread about trivial issues like that makes this movie bad. I was wrong to assume it had been several times this time instead a whopping two (seriously why did it need to be repeated again so shortly after? ).

When DiFabio picks things apart, I understand he's having a bit of fun as a raving fanboy. When you do it, you're completely serious about what you're saying. If you pick apart ANY comic book movie, you'll have all these issues. You must not enjoy any comic book movie if you can't look past something as cliche/common as dual identities. I think Nolan and Bale did a wonderful job making Bruce and Batman's identities separate quite well. If you have such a problem with it, blame Frank Miller. The whole return/first night out come straight from "Year One."

 

[crows]

If Kim Kardiashian came back from the dead, and a crimefighting vigilante emerged at the same time ... I'm not sure I'd make the connection.

(one of the weirder sentences I've ever typed)

SnakeDoc

 

[devilof76]

Edit: NVM, it's not worth feeding the troll.

You'd indict your own means of survival?

 

[IrishJedi]

Liken it to Carl getting up so quick after being fatally shot.

Hey! Quit making this personal.

 

[devilof76]

No, really. I was amazed. Hell of a constitution you got there.

 

[K07]

If Kim Kardiashian came back from the dead, and a crimefighting vigilante emerged at the same time ... I'm not sure I'd make the connection.

(one of the weirder sentences I've ever typed)

SnakeDoc

That's why to me, Bale is the best actor to have portrayed this character. He has not one, not two, but three different personas onscreen. The only time we had a bimbo billionaire playboy was B:TAS and due to the target audience, he couldn't even do half the things Bale pretends to do (get drunk, get a ton of action night after night with multiple ladies, burn down his house, etc). I would think the guy was a low life deadbeat seeing that stuff in the tabloids like I do with Kim Kardashian. Rachel thinks this of Bruce as well and even knowing the real Bruce when he was younger she didn't put it together he could be Batman.

 

[IrishJedi]

No, really. I was amazed. Hell of a constitution you got there.

A pint of Guinness every day keeps the Grim Reaper away.

 

[greygoose]

Joseph Gordon-Levitt is the new Batman.

Looks like it.

 

[devilof76]

A pint of Guinness every day keeps the Grim Reaper away.

Bless ye.