Star Wars: Andor (September 21st, 2022)

[chrisstbh]

This show is so good, I won't be able to go back to silly Star Wars now. Little green baby frog creatures and goofy droid side kicks.

I can do both

 

[jye4ever]

I told my wife that about her and her girlfriend.

 

[Sassafras]

Sass wants his Inart rooted hair Luthen already

Lol for sure. The PREMIUM version with a switchout jaw so you can do the fake smile - no, wait, don't think I can take anything like the Antman release.

 

[Mandible]

The nitty gritty ground level exploraton of these characters and their organizations at this high level of quality is going to have a tremendous impact on A New Hope.

Lets look at SW in general and the OT what they have always meant to us.

Golly Gee they are swashbuckling fun for the whole family to enjoy like a friendly safe rollercoaster ride look at these cute creatures, funny droids, cool spaceships and THX theater sound yay!

Andor comes along and shows us real adults dealing with real world horrors being committed by other adults.

Andor thrusts our real life upheavals that humans have suffered at the hands of governments and institutions throughout history straight into a franchise known for fun family adventures!

Andor feels real and not just about cool bounty hunters and jedi.

Hate the empire means something again.

Let's not forget charred Uncle and Aunt and a bloody alien arm laying on the ground!

 

[Sassafras]

Let me give an example of how this show is changing our perception of Star Wars by bringing character stuff to the surface in a new light that we never imagined before because it was always disguised as family fun adventure time.

The great scene with the doctor who was so polite and found pleasure in describing why his method of torture was so unique when he says to Bix that the recording of the screams of alien children being killed caused extra harm to the human mind.

This wasn’t Jar Jar, Wato, Sebulba, Pod Racers, Ewoks or any other SW alien.

This was the screams of alien children being murdered being used as a painfully damaging torture technique.

This ain’t your grandfather’s SW.

Gives a whole new meaning to the Client, hopefully Moff Gideon, and the Night of a Thousand Tears. It's like up to now we've only seen a bit of how bad the Empire was. Andor brings it up close - brutal. And another thing, I was tensing up over the whole Level 2 thing. The director knows how to build a scene. When the reveal comes, it hits home.

Tho think the Mayfield Operation Cinder scene in Mando paints a good picture of the Empire, just describing those who died. And why Mayfield shot Hess. Gotta sleep at night!

 

[jye4ever]

imagine Palpatine written by the Gilroy brothers!

 

[jye4ever]

Syril eats cereal lol

 

[ajp4mgs]

This was my second-favorite episode so far. Not particularly special on its own, but after 8 episodes of the building blocks being meticulously set down, I found this absolutely riveting. I checked the status bar three times in the hopes that the episode wasn't too close to ending.

It felt like everyone in the crosshairs of the Empire was not only sensing the hand around their throat, but feeling the grip getting tighter in a hurry and becoming desperate as a result. That desperation means either do whatever it takes to break free or be willing to be suffocated.

Dedra continues to be ****ing awesome! The Mothma scenes continue to reliably provide the cutting dialogue that I can always tip my hat to. And even Syril, who has had the character arc I've cared least about, is now creepy af enough to make me want to see where that one is going.

The Empire is (thankfully!) terrifying, and it carries even more weight now when it's shown on an individual level like this and not just when a planet we never learned to care about is getting blown up. The Imperial citizens are nothing more than disposable tools, and that's the sense needed to make the ultimate toppling of the Empire feel like a triumph of the spirit.

The world of SW is being made more real, more relevant, more nuanced, and (I believe) far more interesting. Every SW in the orbit of this series is benefitting from it. My 10-year-old self might not have given a damn about this show, but that just makes me more glad than ever that I'm not 10 years old anymore.

I can't say enough positive things about what a revelation I think Andor has been. I don't want the season to end.

 

[jye4ever]

I’m totally ok that Khev hasn’t posted his thoughts on this episode yet…

 

[Stront]

I’m loving this show. All the good points have been made by other posters, but I will say that what works for me, and the show, is that instead of copying Star Wars, this show is going back to the original formula: copying other genres.

It’s like the original movies were copies of westerns, samurai flicks, Flash Gordon, etc. the newer material has just been copying the originals, trying to feel SW by copying SW. This show is copying other types of stories - political/espionage thrillers - and fitting them into the framework of the SW world. If I had to pick an overall reason of why it’s working for me, then that would be it.

On a related note, if any of you guys haven’t yet seen it, the movie Prospect also gives me the same enjoyment, with fantastic world building and OT level prop work. Check it out.

 

[Wor-Gar]

Isn't he still just coming around to this show? I thought it didn't click for him until fairly recently?

 

[jye4ever]

This was my second-favorite episode so far. Not particularly special on its own, but after 8 episodes of the building blocks being meticulously set down, I found this absolutely riveting. I checked the status bar three times in the hopes that the episode wasn't too close to ending.

It felt like everyone in the crosshairs of the Empire was not only sensing the hand around their throat, but feeling the grip getting tighter in a hurry and becoming desperate as a result. That desperation means either do whatever it takes to break free or be willing to be suffocated.

Dedra continues to be ****ing awesome! The Mothma scenes continue to reliably provide the cutting dialogue that I can always tip my hat to. And even Syril, who has had the character arc I've cared least about, is now creepy af enough to make me want to see where that one is going.

The Empire is (thankfully!) terrifying, and it carries even more weight now when it's shown on an individual level like this and not just when a planet we never learned to care about is getting blown up. The Imperial citizens are nothing more than disposable tools, and that's the sense needed to make the ultimate toppling of the Empire feel like a triumph of the spirit.

The world of SW is being made more real, more relevant, more nuanced, and (I believe) far more interesting. Every SW in the orbit of this series is benefitting from it. My 10-year-old self might not have given a damn about this show, but that just makes me more glad than ever that I'm not 10 years old anymore.

I can't say enough positive things about what a revelation I think Andor has been. I don't want the season to end.

Dedra just might steal the thunder away from Thrawn.

My 14 year old son thinks Andor is super slow and boring then he went back on tik tok lol

 

[jye4ever]

Isn't he still just coming around to this show? I thought it didn't click for him until fairly recently?

No…

you’re describing a-dev from the future lol

 

[Mondragon]

Syril eats cereal lol

That is surreal.
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[ajp4mgs]

Dedra just might steal the thunder away from Thrawn.

My 14 year old son thinks Andor is super slow and boring then he went back on tik tok lol

The characterization of Thrawn makes him one of my favorites in all of SW, but when Zahn isn't writing him he's been so much more one-dimensional and "meh" in Rebels. With Filoni likely to continue writing his character in live action, I'm keeping my expectations low. But if Gilroy was writing him... now *that* I would be going nuts to see.

As for your son finding it boring, yeah, that's understandable. Give him time; someday he'll see the light.

 

[The Buffinator]

Dedra’s left cheek flinch during Bix’s interrogation was freaking amazing go see yourselves lol

I was going to post this! That was fantastic.

 

[The Buffinator]

Dedra just might steal the thunder away from Thrawn.

My 14 year old son thinks Andor is super slow and boring then he went back on tik tok lol

A 14 year old boy’s brain isn’t fully formed yet, so his opinion is of no consequence lol. As I used to tell my son when he was that age, “When I want your opinion I’ll give you one”.

 

[Mandible]

Syril eats cereal lol

Syril the stalker...

 

[Mandible]

This was my second-favorite episode so far. Not particularly special on its own, but after 8 episodes of the building blocks being meticulously set down, I found this absolutely riveting. I checked the status bar three times in the hopes that the episode wasn't too close to ending.

It felt like everyone in the crosshairs of the Empire was not only sensing the hand around their throat, but feeling the grip getting tighter in a hurry and becoming desperate as a result. That desperation means either do whatever it takes to break free or be willing to be suffocated.

Dedra continues to be ****ing awesome! The Mothma scenes continue to reliably provide the cutting dialogue that I can always tip my hat to. And even Syril, who has had the character arc I've cared least about, is now creepy af enough to make me want to see where that one is going.

The Empire is (thankfully!) terrifying, and it carries even more weight now when it's shown on an individual level like this and not just when a planet we never learned to care about is getting blown up. The Imperial citizens are nothing more than disposable tools, and that's the sense needed to make the ultimate toppling of the Empire feel like a triumph of the spirit.

The world of SW is being made more real, more relevant, more nuanced, and (I believe) far more interesting. Every SW in the orbit of this series is benefitting from it. My 10-year-old self might not have given a damn about this show, but that just makes me more glad than ever that I'm not 10 years old anymore.

I can't say enough positive things about what a revelation I think Andor has been. I don't want the season to end.

That's an interesting thing to think about; a 1977 10 year old may have got into it (as most of the movies of that time were pretty heavy/serious), but a 2022 ADHD ridden 10 year old... probably not.

If Jaws was released today (and we'd never seen anything like it before), it'd still be a flop because it's essentially a story about characters - not the shark. I remember seeing Jaws at the cinema when I was 6 and loving it (still to this day a masterpiece), but I know my kids wouldn't be able to get through it (or appreciate it on any level).

 

[The Buffinator]

I can do both

I told my wife that about her and her girlfriend.

That was considerate of you, giving your wife someone to talk to after you fall asleep lol…