Civil War

[Buttmunch]

I thought they would expand it after finding out how much money it would make them.

 

[Darth Caedus]

No trades yet Dave, it's just begun it's year long run. I've been picking up all the Civil War titles so far. I thought House of M was kind of a dissapointment, but I really think Civil War is gonna be good. The New Avengers issue comes out this week, you might want to pick it up to.

Really? I thought House of M wasn't too bad. My only beef with civil war is that after #3, schedule of releases isn't keeping up. That just means I have to wait longer to see Thor put a lightning bolt through someone's chest. Any mark my words, spider-man will turn on iron man before the end.

 

[LordAzrael]

Any recommendation on new comics? I just checked out the Transformers vs GI Joe line and ...

I got the first 3 issues of the new Moon Knight. Very promising - but then again I was a huge fan of the prior incarnations.

*EDIT* Ah crap - just read above that issues 7-9 will be Civil war crossovers... .I hate that.

Also going to grab Star Wars Legacy

 

[Darth Caedus]

I want to know who removed the civil war pro/con pictures on wikipedia. I had that as my signature, but now can't have it anymore and I didn't save the picture...AHHHHHHHHHHH!!! Buttmunch feels my pain.

 

[Buttmunch]

I want to know who removed the civil war pro/con pictures on wikipedia. I had that as my signature, but now can't have it anymore and I didn't save the picture...AHHHHHHHHHHH!!! Buttmunch feels my pain.

Yeah I noticed they were gone yesterday/ Where is that Wolverine one coming from? Maybe they have Iron Man and Cap there too?

Mithrandier wanna fill us in?

 

[Darth Caedus]

Off TOPIC: but HA, found my picture again.

 

[Buttmunch]

Found mine again too just using a simple Google search.

BTW, is Wolverine neutral or on his own or what? I haven't read past CW 1 (still waiting for the rest to comee) so please forgive my ignorance.

 

[carbo-fation]

It seems like Wolvorine is against it! I haven't read the Wolvorine Civil War issues yet, but just glimpsed through them. I'll find out tonight!

 

[Hightreker]

Really? I thought House of M wasn't too bad. My only beef with civil war is that after #3, schedule of releases isn't keeping up. That just means I have to wait longer to see Thor put a lightning bolt through someone's chest. Any mark my words, spider-man will turn on iron man before the end.

I thought it was decent, but I was expecting more. I probablly would have liked it more if I had read all the Decimation stuff too. I only read a few of those. Oh and about spidey, I've been on that train since the beginning too, bring on the back stabbin'!!!!

 

[DarkArtist81]

Yeah, it was a shocker to me that Spidey sided with Iron Man. Seemed like he would be the strongest advocate against registration. I would be 100% certain that he will eventually switch sides against Tony. Especially if other people start to get really hurt.....

I'm still wondering what will happen when this is all over!!

 

[Buttmunch]

Yeah, it was a shocker to me that Spidey sided with Iron Man. Seemed like he would be the strongest advocate against registration. I would be 100% certain that he will eventually switch sides against Tony. Especially if other people start to get really hurt.....

I'm still wondering what will happen when this is all over!!

I just hope it isn't a dream or an alternate dimension or someone is able to reverse it by going back in time or something stupid like that. For this to mean anything, things have to change permenently.

 

[DarkArtist81]

I just hope it isn't a dream or an alternate dimension or someone is able to reverse it by going back in time or something stupid like that. For this to mean anything, things have to change permenently.

Agreed. This needs to be a permanent change, something that will affect the heroes and their relationships for a LOOOONG time to come. It will, if things go well, be a pretty solid ground to build future Marvel stories with for at least a few years. It needs to be real.

 

[Hightreker]

JQ said at comic-con that this is perminate for awhile.

 

[Mithrandier]

Wolverine seems to be on Cap's side but has been working with Iron Man the time being. He has been tracking Nitro and actually found him. Bad thing was, Namor had a group searchin for Nitro also. Got my new issue of Wolverine last night, and lets just say, after a Wolverine and Namor have a tussle or two...............ahhhhhhhh unless you want me to spoil it, I'll let you read it first.

My sig is taken from Newsarama...............they have a ton of different ones.

 

[Buttmunch]

Do you have a link to the page with them? I couldn't find them.

 

[Buttmunch]

 

[ffl1940]

Once you registrated, the government owns you. Do you want to be owned by the government and be told what you have to do? Wouldn't you rather have the choice on what you would like to do with your powers?

I think both sides have valid points, it boils down to what is important to you personally and what you have to gain or lose from registration.

Hey Duckgoo, I know what you're saying, but we "register" for a social security number so that the goverment can take our money and spread it around for the "good of all". We're "registering" when we send in our taxes, telling the IRS everything about our income, place we live, etc when we pay our taxes (again, for the "good of all").

So I suppose if all the anti-registration people would also say that it'd be okay for people who don't want to register with/pay to Social Security because they'll provide for their own retirement that would be a little more consistent. And if people who want to provide for their own medical care don't want to contribute to any kind of medicare or national health care they should be allowed to opt-out and go their own way, unemcumbered by the government telling them what they should or shouldn't do with their lives. You could say that having to register for those things hurts your family by hurting you financially when the goverment takes your money from you.

Really I just like to point out when people are being hypocritical. I find that people want us to register for certain things that suit their fancy (i.e. political ideology) and not to register for things that don't (i.e. liberals want people to have to register guns, fly a plane, drive a car, pay taxes be part of social security and contribute to national health care all things that give up individual freedoms, but registering for anything that sets an individual apart, even one that could commit mass murder on an epic scale with a thought, that's unacceptable. Conservatives, on the other hand, want people to have to register for the Selective Service, pilot's licenses, driver's licenses, etc. want the gov't to tell scientists what stem cell lines they can use, want the gov't to limit abortion and birth control and to limit what we see on the public TV airwaves (murder and violence OK, a bare breast? call the FCC!!!!! )

Join the Libertarians!!!! The gov't should provide a judicial system, a defense for the borders (which they wouldn't leave unless we were attacked first) and the rest is just fending for yourselves!!!!

 

[SolidLiquidFox]

On one side you got the smartest guy in the Marvel Universe, Reed Richards, supporting registration. On the other side you got Captain America against it.

Who do you follow???



(hint: advantage Cap since Reed's wife is always cheating on him)

 

[Duckgoo]

Hey Duckgoo, I know what you're saying, but we "register" for a social security number so that the goverment can take our money and spread it around for the "good of all". We're "registering" when we send in our taxes, telling the IRS everything about our income, place we live, etc when we pay our taxes (again, for the "good of all").

So I suppose if all the anti-registration people would also say that it'd be okay for people who don't want to register with/pay to Social Security because they'll provide for their own retirement that would be a little more consistent. And if people who want to provide for their own medical care don't want to contribute to any kind of medicare or national health care they should be allowed to opt-out and go their own way, unemcumbered by the government telling them what they should or shouldn't do with their lives. You could say that having to register for those things hurts your family by hurting you financially when the goverment takes your money from you.

Really I just like to point out when people are being hypocritical. I find that people want us to register for certain things that suit their fancy (i.e. political ideology) and not to register for things that don't (i.e. liberals want people to have to register guns, fly a plane, drive a car, pay taxes be part of social security and contribute to national health care all things that give up individual freedoms, but registering for anything that sets an individual apart, even one that could commit mass murder on an epic scale with a thought, that's unacceptable. Conservatives, on the other hand, want people to have to register for the Selective Service, pilot's licenses, driver's licenses, etc. want the gov't to tell scientists what stem cell lines they can use, want the gov't to limit abortion and birth control and to limit what we see on the public TV airwaves (murder and violence OK, a bare breast? call the FCC!!!!! )

Join the Libertarians!!!! The gov't should provide a judicial system, a defense for the borders (which they wouldn't leave unless we were attacked first) and the rest is just fending for yourselves!!!!

I don't think your example of social security registration is valid.

The superheroes have to register because they are different than the rest of America. It's like saying if you are middle eastern in the US, you have to register. If you are non-middle eastern, then you don't have to register.
Once the government starts to treat a group of people different, then our democracy falls apart.

Why do you think Captain America is anti-registration.

These superheroes didn't have a choice with their superpowers, they can't just turn them off. Take mutants for example.

I understand that superheroes are capable of massive destruction, but they are also capable of massive good.

 

[carbo-fation]

I don't think your example of social security registration is valid.

The superheroes have to register because they are different than the rest of America. It's like saying if you are middle eastern in the US, you have to register. If you are non-middle eastern, then you don't have to register.
Once the government starts to treat a group of people different, then our democracy falls apart.

Why do you think Captain America is anti-registration.

These superheroes didn't have a choice with their superpowers, they can't just turn them off. Take mutants for example.

I understand that superheroes are capable of massive destruction, but they are also capable of massive good.

Wow, you pretty much summed up my thoughts exactly! Being of a different race and religion, I can empathize with the anti-registration a lot more!