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Has there ever been a thread where so many non-buyers continued to post for days with the same complaints over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over?


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You know you are just adding fuel to the fire right? just let people rant away, it will eventually die down.

I personally don't like the figure, if it was cheaper I might bite. I really wanted a high end GL, but Im not sweating it. Tony and Co. will make a better one anyway.
 
Still not sold on this line because the heads look too large. While they are accurate for real life human proportions, they don't match up with comic proportions, whereas the PFs are done in comic proportions. As a result they look too toy like as opposed to high end action figures. However will see what's shown. I had high hopes when this line was announced.

EXACTLY. all the sideshow dc sixth scales look terrible, i wish they would up the realism to hot toys level, then they would be worth the price. sadly that seems years away from happening.
 
Has there ever been a thread where so many non-buyers continued to post for days with the same complaints over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over?


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i think it's because it's such a terrible looking figure and people want to buy from sideshow, but aren't able with this trash being put out. seriously, buy one (i bought a clone trooper) and tell me you don't want to return it because of the **** quality. they're like a light plastic $80 action figure, not a $200 collectible.
 
EXACTLY. all the sideshow dc sixth scales look terrible, i wish they would up the realism to hot toys level, then they would be worth the price. sadly that seems years away from happening.

I couldn't disagree more. Despite the noise in these threads the figures look awesome in person, especially Batman, and I'm assuming GL will be the same.

Clamoring for a $150 figure just isn't realistic anymore unfortunately. If we can get one under $200 it would be shocking.


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Clamoring for a $150 figure just isn't realistic anymore unfortunately. If we can get one under $200 it would be shocking.


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When it comes to HT and SS figures, I absolutely agree. The days of the $189.99 figure are gone. Black Widow jumped from $189.99 (Winter Soldier) to $219.99 (AoU). Stormtrooper and Tie Fighter Pilot are $199.99. Expect at least $200 from now on unless you're buying from companies like ThreeZero, Art Figures, etc.
 
I couldn't disagree more. Despite the noise in these threads the figures look awesome in person, especially Batman, and I'm assuming GL will be the same.

Clamoring for a $150 figure just isn't realistic anymore unfortunately. If we can get one under $200 it would be shocking.


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The problem is... as of now... this looks like a $50 Hasbro figure, not a $220 SSC figure. Sure maybe in person this will surprise people and look awesome, would be nice if it did, but expectations for this figure were high and as of now the results by SSC are terrible.
 
Realistically, the boards are a small percentage of SSC's revenue. We may be one of the most vocal but definitely one of the smaller minorities. There are dozens of other boards and of course social media. I think that people should voice their dislikes of figures, statues, etc and Sideshow SHOULD know about it but use decorum. If people really voted with their wallets then SSC would get the point. Look how many figures sold out and then had their exclusives pop up available because of less than stellar QC on the final figures, people even had the Mummy Brenden Frasier PF cancelled from not buying it and voicing dislike.

People should do that, vote with their wallets, but once the opinion is out there it isn't necessary to browbeat people with it or convince people to it. You point out your thoughts, don't buy it and wait for the next.

One of the problems is a lot of people complain, rail and then just buy it and ***** about it still but SSC still has their money.

The Brenden Fraiser PF got canned because the Universial license was gone
 
This figure is a No..... just No. This line is dead in the water. I got the Joker which was great, I actually bought two...the body sucked though. Death Stroke Would pull me back..... Fat Chance.
 
Sorry - I need to reply...no one scared me off. I'm not here to defend the work, just to offer clarity during a quick break I had.

Sallah - I'm a big fan of KISS and New Orleans - how'd you guess?

Groovy- it's not the Superman body. I wouldn't recommend putting this suit on that body but since you have cut/sew skills - I look forward to seeing your kitbash later this year. I hope you weather any criticism of your custom work and effort.

ArmyMedic - sorry man, hopefully you will like what comes after GL.

Darth- Points taken. We have to consider figures based on how many we expect to sell. Nightwing seems to come up a lot so it doesn't fall on deaf ears. No promises though.

I'm now out though, I have to go find this factory that makes figures we can sell at $150.00.

Not to be rude, or trying to start trouble or mean, or cruel, or showing I have no social skills or whatever I will get for this post.... It is just a "my honest opinion post" from a collector of many different toys from price points of $10 (the 3 3/4 star wars as you mentioned) to $20 WWE Elite figures to SSC and Hot Toys 1/6th scale. So here it goes...

I think it was a waste of time to have the lantern light up. Was it because SSC did not want to make any more constructs and just said "lets put a light in it, that'll do" or was it because you genuinely thought it would be cool? The DC Classics Lantern vs Sinestro toysrus exclusive two pack, it was like what $35 or less, that included six constructs. Sure they are for a figure half the size of this one but I find it hard to believe that Mattel can offer six constructs two figures but for $220 SSC can offer only one figure and one construct....

What a horrible choice of attire. I mean, you say we can not appeal to everyone, but like, what is this? It looks like a eight year old bedazzled the suit. This is not even a classic attire. Superman is classic.... Batman is classic.... Joker is classic.... Harley Quinn is classic.... this is not. SSC makes five figures from this line in there classic attire and it is like a Green Lantern fanboy who works for SSC decided he wanted this attire instead of the best interest of the fans it was in there own best interest. Like what happened with this. SSC could have has the potential to create a epic Justice League display and they blew it, absolutely blew it with this release. It makes no sense whatsoever, you can not really defend it... A lapse in creative direction maybe? A HUGE LAPSE? Like, this figure, coupled with the previous releases of the classic attires in which SSC made it seem as the approach was for a classic 1/6 figure line, may just be the biggest disappointment, worst executed figure I have ever seen from the dozens of line I collect.

Another point. Did any real comic fans work on this figure? WWE Mattel lead designer is a HUGE fan, loves wrestling, and it shows in his designs for the figures and the fan reaction from them. This figure shows none of that.

No second head, yet a increase in price and it is justified by a fist and a light up lantern. Batman came with batarangs and a grapple gun. Harley a mallet, gun, knife, brass knuckles. Yet Green Lantern comes with a fist, a light up lantern and costs $20 to $30 more with no second head sculpt. Looked like SSC was hungry for more money.

Now about the "I have to go find a factory that makes figures we can sell at $150.00" Come on man..... come on...... You know you can, you know you can. Problem is it would cut into SSC bottom line, would not fill everyone's pocket with enough cash. There are many other companies that make figures for $150 or less and are far far far better than this attempt at a figure for nearly 1/3 of the price. During the Spook sales when everything is discounted Hot Toys and SSC still make money, just showing the mark up on these. Robin from the 1966 series was $128 with like $30 back in rewards. Great deal, I bought it and a lot more during the Spook sales. Basically it was selling it at $100. Hot Toys could do it... but SSC can't sell a figure at $150??? That is not even the point though. The point is that this figure is not worth $220, not even $150 to me.

You could have sold this figure at $250, with two sculpts, multiple constructs, and a classic attire with the same choice of fabric from Bats and Sups and sure people would have complained about the price, but you know what? People would have bought that figure than the one that was sadly put out. I would have bought two, no lie. Would need to make a John Stewart custom.



SSC has been extremely disappointing over the last year or so. Whether it was the terrible General Grievous 1/6th figure that felt like a cheap knockoff from some off brand company, to the cheaply made overly priced Battle Droids, to the quality of the clones, to now this..... not sure how I can keep buying things from SSC when all it comes down to is cheap plastic, terrible choices, and overly priced figures.


Such potential in this DC line..... wasted.


Lets hope the Marvel SSC line does not turn into this.
 
Not to be rude, or trying to start trouble or mean, or cruel, or showing I have no social skills or whatever I will get for this post.... It is just a "my honest opinion post" from a collector of many different toys from price points of $10 (the 3 3/4 star wars as you mentioned) to $20 WWE Elite figures to SSC and Hot Toys 1/6th scale. So here it goes...

I think it was a waste of time to have the lantern light up. Was it because SSC did not want to make any more constructs and just said "lets put a light in it, that'll do" or was it because you genuinely thought it would be cool? The DC Classics Lantern vs Sinestro toysrus exclusive two pack, it was like what $35 or less, that included six constructs. Sure they are for a figure half the size of this one but I find it hard to believe that Mattel can offer six constructs two figures but for $220 SSC can offer only one figure and one construct....

What a horrible choice of attire. I mean, you say we can not appeal to everyone, but like, what is this? It looks like a eight year old bedazzled the suit. This is not even a classic attire. Superman is classic.... Batman is classic.... Joker is classic.... Harley Quinn is classic.... this is not. SSC makes five figures from this line in there classic attire and it is like a Green Lantern fanboy who works for SSC decided he wanted this attire instead of the best interest of the fans it was in there own best interest. Like what happened with this. SSC could have has the potential to create a epic Justice League display and they blew it, absolutely blew it with this release. It makes no sense whatsoever, you can not really defend it... A lapse in creative direction maybe? A HUGE LAPSE? Like, this figure, coupled with the previous releases of the classic attires in which SSC made it seem as the approach was for a classic 1/6 figure line, may just be the biggest disappointment, worst executed figure I have ever seen from the dozens of line I collect.

Another point. Did any real comic fans work on this figure? WWE Mattel lead designer is a HUGE fan, loves wrestling, and it shows in his designs for the figures and the fan reaction from them. This figure shows none of that.

No second head, yet a increase in price and it is justified by a fist and a light up lantern. Batman came with batarangs and a grapple gun. Harley a mallet, gun, knife, brass knuckles. Yet Green Lantern comes with a fist, a light up lantern and costs $20 to $30 more with no second head sculpt. Looked like SSC was hungry for more money.

Now about the "I have to go find a factory that makes figures we can sell at $150.00" Come on man..... come on...... You know you can, you know you can. Problem is it would cut into SSC bottom line, would not fill everyone's pocket with enough cash. There are many other companies that make figures for $150 or less and are far far far better than this attempt at a figure for nearly 1/3 of the price. During the Spook sales when everything is discounted Hot Toys and SSC still make money, just showing the mark up on these. Robin from the 1966 series was $128 with like $30 back in rewards. Great deal, I bought it and a lot more during the Spook sales. Basically it was selling it at $100. Hot Toys could do it... but SSC can't sell a figure at $150??? That is not even the point though. The point is that this figure is not worth $220, not even $150 to me.

You could have sold this figure at $250, with two sculpts, multiple constructs, and a classic attire with the same choice of fabric from Bats and Sups and sure people would have complained about the price, but you know what? People would have bought that figure than the one that was sadly put out. I would have bought two, no lie. Would need to make a John Stewart custom.



SSC has been extremely disappointing over the last year or so. Whether it was the terrible General Grievous 1/6th figure that felt like a cheap knockoff from some off brand company, to the cheaply made overly priced Battle Droids, to the quality of the clones, to now this..... not sure how I can keep buying things from SSC when all it comes down to is cheap plastic, terrible choices, and overly priced figures.


Such potential in this DC line..... wasted.


Lets hope the Marvel SSC line does not turn into this.

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Well written and posted.
 
Don't expect Aquaman,hawkman or Martian Manhunter. For one these might be less known characters for them. 2nd 2 of these characters is beyond there capability because it would mean a detailed body and for HM a workable wings. Let's face it the wings would fall off or break. But Mattel can make them in 6" no problem.
 
When it comes to HT and SS figures, I absolutely agree. The days of the $189.99 figure are gone. Black Widow jumped from $189.99 (Winter Soldier) to $219.99 (AoU). Stormtrooper and Tie Fighter Pilot are $199.99. Expect at least $200 from now on unless you're buying from companies like ThreeZero, Art Figures, etc.

No the prices are this high because you pay them. If no one bought these, price would go down.
 
Not to be rude, or trying to start trouble or mean, or cruel, or showing I have no social skills or whatever I will get for this post.... It is just a "my honest opinion post" from a collector of many different toys from price points of $10 (the 3 3/4 star wars as you mentioned) to $20 WWE Elite figures to SSC and Hot Toys 1/6th scale. So here it goes...

I think it was a waste of time to have the lantern light up. Was it because SSC did not want to make any more constructs and just said "lets put a light in it, that'll do" or was it because you genuinely thought it would be cool? The DC Classics Lantern vs Sinestro toysrus exclusive two pack, it was like what $35 or less, that included six constructs. Sure they are for a figure half the size of this one but I find it hard to believe that Mattel can offer six constructs two figures but for $220 SSC can offer only one figure and one construct....

What a horrible choice of attire. I mean, you say we can not appeal to everyone, but like, what is this? It looks like a eight year old bedazzled the suit. This is not even a classic attire. Superman is classic.... Batman is classic.... Joker is classic.... Harley Quinn is classic.... this is not. SSC makes five figures from this line in there classic attire and it is like a Green Lantern fanboy who works for SSC decided he wanted this attire instead of the best interest of the fans it was in there own best interest. Like what happened with this. SSC could have has the potential to create a epic Justice League display and they blew it, absolutely blew it with this release. It makes no sense whatsoever, you can not really defend it... A lapse in creative direction maybe? A HUGE LAPSE? Like, this figure, coupled with the previous releases of the classic attires in which SSC made it seem as the approach was for a classic 1/6 figure line, may just be the biggest disappointment, worst executed figure I have ever seen from the dozens of line I collect.

Another point. Did any real comic fans work on this figure? WWE Mattel lead designer is a HUGE fan, loves wrestling, and it shows in his designs for the figures and the fan reaction from them. This figure shows none of that.

No second head, yet a increase in price and it is justified by a fist and a light up lantern. Batman came with batarangs and a grapple gun. Harley a mallet, gun, knife, brass knuckles. Yet Green Lantern comes with a fist, a light up lantern and costs $20 to $30 more with no second head sculpt. Looked like SSC was hungry for more money.

Now about the "I have to go find a factory that makes figures we can sell at $150.00" Come on man..... come on...... You know you can, you know you can. Problem is it would cut into SSC bottom line, would not fill everyone's pocket with enough cash. There are many other companies that make figures for $150 or less and are far far far better than this attempt at a figure for nearly 1/3 of the price. During the Spook sales when everything is discounted Hot Toys and SSC still make money, just showing the mark up on these. Robin from the 1966 series was $128 with like $30 back in rewards. Great deal, I bought it and a lot more during the Spook sales. Basically it was selling it at $100. Hot Toys could do it... but SSC can't sell a figure at $150??? That is not even the point though. The point is that this figure is not worth $220, not even $150 to me.

You could have sold this figure at $250, with two sculpts, multiple constructs, and a classic attire with the same choice of fabric from Bats and Sups and sure people would have complained about the price, but you know what? People would have bought that figure than the one that was sadly put out. I would have bought two, no lie. Would need to make a John Stewart custom.



SSC has been extremely disappointing over the last year or so. Whether it was the terrible General Grievous 1/6th figure that felt like a cheap knockoff from some off brand company, to the cheaply made overly priced Battle Droids, to the quality of the clones, to now this..... not sure how I can keep buying things from SSC when all it comes down to is cheap plastic, terrible choices, and overly priced figures.


Such potential in this DC line..... wasted.


Lets hope the Marvel SSC line does not turn into this.

Well put!!!
 
Not to be rude, or trying to start trouble or mean, or cruel, or showing I have no social skills or whatever I will get for this post.... It is just a "my honest opinion post" from a collector of many different toys from price points of $10 (the 3 3/4 star wars as you mentioned) to $20 WWE Elite figures to SSC and Hot Toys 1/6th scale. So here it goes...

I think it was a waste of time to have the lantern light up. Was it because SSC did not want to make any more constructs and just said "lets put a light in it, that'll do" or was it because you genuinely thought it would be cool? The DC Classics Lantern vs Sinestro toysrus exclusive two pack, it was like what $35 or less, that included six constructs. Sure they are for a figure half the size of this one but I find it hard to believe that Mattel can offer six constructs two figures but for $220 SSC can offer only one figure and one construct....

What a horrible choice of attire. I mean, you say we can not appeal to everyone, but like, what is this? It looks like a eight year old bedazzled the suit. This is not even a classic attire. Superman is classic.... Batman is classic.... Joker is classic.... Harley Quinn is classic.... this is not. SSC makes five figures from this line in there classic attire and it is like a Green Lantern fanboy who works for SSC decided he wanted this attire instead of the best interest of the fans it was in there own best interest. Like what happened with this. SSC could have has the potential to create a epic Justice League display and they blew it, absolutely blew it with this release. It makes no sense whatsoever, you can not really defend it... A lapse in creative direction maybe? A HUGE LAPSE? Like, this figure, coupled with the previous releases of the classic attires in which SSC made it seem as the approach was for a classic 1/6 figure line, may just be the biggest disappointment, worst executed figure I have ever seen from the dozens of line I collect.

Another point. Did any real comic fans work on this figure? WWE Mattel lead designer is a HUGE fan, loves wrestling, and it shows in his designs for the figures and the fan reaction from them. This figure shows none of that.

No second head, yet a increase in price and it is justified by a fist and a light up lantern. Batman came with batarangs and a grapple gun. Harley a mallet, gun, knife, brass knuckles. Yet Green Lantern comes with a fist, a light up lantern and costs $20 to $30 more with no second head sculpt. Looked like SSC was hungry for more money.

Now about the "I have to go find a factory that makes figures we can sell at $150.00" Come on man..... come on...... You know you can, you know you can. Problem is it would cut into SSC bottom line, would not fill everyone's pocket with enough cash. There are many other companies that make figures for $150 or less and are far far far better than this attempt at a figure for nearly 1/3 of the price. During the Spook sales when everything is discounted Hot Toys and SSC still make money, just showing the mark up on these. Robin from the 1966 series was $128 with like $30 back in rewards. Great deal, I bought it and a lot more during the Spook sales. Basically it was selling it at $100. Hot Toys could do it... but SSC can't sell a figure at $150??? That is not even the point though. The point is that this figure is not worth $220, not even $150 to me.

You could have sold this figure at $250, with two sculpts, multiple constructs, and a classic attire with the same choice of fabric from Bats and Sups and sure people would have complained about the price, but you know what? People would have bought that figure than the one that was sadly put out. I would have bought two, no lie. Would need to make a John Stewart custom.



SSC has been extremely disappointing over the last year or so. Whether it was the terrible General Grievous 1/6th figure that felt like a cheap knockoff from some off brand company, to the cheaply made overly priced Battle Droids, to the quality of the clones, to now this..... not sure how I can keep buying things from SSC when all it comes down to is cheap plastic, terrible choices, and overly priced figures.


Such potential in this DC line..... wasted.


Lets hope the Marvel SSC line does not turn into this.

Nicely put
 
No the prices are this high because you pay them. If no one bought these, price would go down.

I don't know what you said "no" for since I said the days of the <$200 are over as a statement without giving a reason for the new price minimum--a statement that you seemingly agree with, unless you're saying that we'll see figures under that amount from SS and HT.

Your theory of "Don't buy them and the price will go down" is flawed. You know what happens when people don't buy figures from a line from SS? That line gets cancelled. They don't go back and redo the figures at a cheaper price point. Look at the GI Joe line. You think SS is going to bring that line back with figures that cost $124.99-$149.99 since the later figures didn't sell well? Regardless, even if that theory worked--good luck getting people to do that. Some people aren't concerned about the cost so you're not getting them to follow the plan. Some people want the figure so badly that they'll buy it just so they don't miss out on the opportunity to get that character in their collection--especially if there's a chance the line doesn't sell well and is cancelled (reread the beginning of this paragraph).

There are some companies making cheaper figures than HT and SS, like I stated in the post you quoted. They may not be licensed or from the license you want but they exist. I don't know how long they'll be able to keep prices that low but enjoy it while it lasts. There are some good ones coming from Threezero. SS and HT, however, are throwing the figures out there at a certain price and seeing if they stick. If people buy them, the line continues. If people don't buy them, they move on to something else.
 
Not to be rude, or trying to start trouble or mean, or cruel, or showing I have no social skills or whatever I will get for this post.... It is just a "my honest opinion post" from a collector of many different toys from price points of $10 (the 3 3/4 star wars as you mentioned) to $20 WWE Elite figures to SSC and Hot Toys 1/6th scale. So here it goes...

I think it was a waste of time to have the lantern light up. Was it because SSC did not want to make any more constructs and just said "lets put a light in it, that'll do" or was it because you genuinely thought it would be cool? The DC Classics Lantern vs Sinestro toysrus exclusive two pack, it was like what $35 or less, that included six constructs. Sure they are for a figure half the size of this one but I find it hard to believe that Mattel can offer six constructs two figures but for $220 SSC can offer only one figure and one construct....

What a horrible choice of attire. I mean, you say we can not appeal to everyone, but like, what is this? It looks like a eight year old bedazzled the suit. This is not even a classic attire. Superman is classic.... Batman is classic.... Joker is classic.... Harley Quinn is classic.... this is not. SSC makes five figures from this line in there classic attire and it is like a Green Lantern fanboy who works for SSC decided he wanted this attire instead of the best interest of the fans it was in there own best interest. Like what happened with this. SSC could have has the potential to create a epic Justice League display and they blew it, absolutely blew it with this release. It makes no sense whatsoever, you can not really defend it... A lapse in creative direction maybe? A HUGE LAPSE? Like, this figure, coupled with the previous releases of the classic attires in which SSC made it seem as the approach was for a classic 1/6 figure line, may just be the biggest disappointment, worst executed figure I have ever seen from the dozens of line I collect.

Another point. Did any real comic fans work on this figure? WWE Mattel lead designer is a HUGE fan, loves wrestling, and it shows in his designs for the figures and the fan reaction from them. This figure shows none of that.

No second head, yet a increase in price and it is justified by a fist and a light up lantern. Batman came with batarangs and a grapple gun. Harley a mallet, gun, knife, brass knuckles. Yet Green Lantern comes with a fist, a light up lantern and costs $20 to $30 more with no second head sculpt. Looked like SSC was hungry for more money.

Now about the "I have to go find a factory that makes figures we can sell at $150.00" Come on man..... come on...... You know you can, you know you can. Problem is it would cut into SSC bottom line, would not fill everyone's pocket with enough cash. There are many other companies that make figures for $150 or less and are far far far better than this attempt at a figure for nearly 1/3 of the price. During the Spook sales when everything is discounted Hot Toys and SSC still make money, just showing the mark up on these. Robin from the 1966 series was $128 with like $30 back in rewards. Great deal, I bought it and a lot more during the Spook sales. Basically it was selling it at $100. Hot Toys could do it... but SSC can't sell a figure at $150??? That is not even the point though. The point is that this figure is not worth $220, not even $150 to me.

You could have sold this figure at $250, with two sculpts, multiple constructs, and a classic attire with the same choice of fabric from Bats and Sups and sure people would have complained about the price, but you know what? People would have bought that figure than the one that was sadly put out. I would have bought two, no lie. Would need to make a John Stewart custom.



SSC has been extremely disappointing over the last year or so. Whether it was the terrible General Grievous 1/6th figure that felt like a cheap knockoff from some off brand company, to the cheaply made overly priced Battle Droids, to the quality of the clones, to now this..... not sure how I can keep buying things from SSC when all it comes down to is cheap plastic, terrible choices, and overly priced figures.


Such potential in this DC line..... wasted.


Lets hope the Marvel SSC line does not turn into this.

WORD!
 
Sideshow won't cancel this line. They've been hunting it for over a decade. Nothing will change with this figure but SSC will see the feedback they're getting. The important is to keep it direct and keep it written without attacks so they read it and don't go "Oh, just another angry fanboy."

Some of the points being made are good, we know they lurk, they've said it so let see what the next GL will bring. Sideshow shined with aliens in the SW line, they'll do the same here if they want but the only worry is that they'll be less Corps members and more Batman members because they are selling.
 
Not to be rude, or trying to start trouble or mean, or cruel, or showing I have no social skills or whatever I will get for this post.... It is just a "my honest opinion post" from a collector of many different toys from price points of $10 (the 3 3/4 star wars as you mentioned) to $20 WWE Elite figures to SSC and Hot Toys 1/6th scale. So here it goes...

I think it was a waste of time to have the lantern light up. Was it because SSC did not want to make any more constructs and just said "lets put a light in it, that'll do" or was it because you genuinely thought it would be cool? The DC Classics Lantern vs Sinestro toysrus exclusive two pack, it was like what $35 or less, that included six constructs. Sure they are for a figure half the size of this one but I find it hard to believe that Mattel can offer six constructs two figures but for $220 SSC can offer only one figure and one construct....

What a horrible choice of attire. I mean, you say we can not appeal to everyone, but like, what is this? It looks like a eight year old bedazzled the suit. This is not even a classic attire. Superman is classic.... Batman is classic.... Joker is classic.... Harley Quinn is classic.... this is not. SSC makes five figures from this line in there classic attire and it is like a Green Lantern fanboy who works for SSC decided he wanted this attire instead of the best interest of the fans it was in there own best interest. Like what happened with this. SSC could have has the potential to create a epic Justice League display and they blew it, absolutely blew it with this release. It makes no sense whatsoever, you can not really defend it... A lapse in creative direction maybe? A HUGE LAPSE? Like, this figure, coupled with the previous releases of the classic attires in which SSC made it seem as the approach was for a classic 1/6 figure line, may just be the biggest disappointment, worst executed figure I have ever seen from the dozens of line I collect.

Another point. Did any real comic fans work on this figure? WWE Mattel lead designer is a HUGE fan, loves wrestling, and it shows in his designs for the figures and the fan reaction from them. This figure shows none of that.

No second head, yet a increase in price and it is justified by a fist and a light up lantern. Batman came with batarangs and a grapple gun. Harley a mallet, gun, knife, brass knuckles. Yet Green Lantern comes with a fist, a light up lantern and costs $20 to $30 more with no second head sculpt. Looked like SSC was hungry for more money.

Now about the "I have to go find a factory that makes figures we can sell at $150.00" Come on man..... come on...... You know you can, you know you can. Problem is it would cut into SSC bottom line, would not fill everyone's pocket with enough cash. There are many other companies that make figures for $150 or less and are far far far better than this attempt at a figure for nearly 1/3 of the price. During the Spook sales when everything is discounted Hot Toys and SSC still make money, just showing the mark up on these. Robin from the 1966 series was $128 with like $30 back in rewards. Great deal, I bought it and a lot more during the Spook sales. Basically it was selling it at $100. Hot Toys could do it... but SSC can't sell a figure at $150??? That is not even the point though. The point is that this figure is not worth $220, not even $150 to me.

You could have sold this figure at $250, with two sculpts, multiple constructs, and a classic attire with the same choice of fabric from Bats and Sups and sure people would have complained about the price, but you know what? People would have bought that figure than the one that was sadly put out. I would have bought two, no lie. Would need to make a John Stewart custom.



SSC has been extremely disappointing over the last year or so. Whether it was the terrible General Grievous 1/6th figure that felt like a cheap knockoff from some off brand company, to the cheaply made overly priced Battle Droids, to the quality of the clones, to now this..... not sure how I can keep buying things from SSC when all it comes down to is cheap plastic, terrible choices, and overly priced figures.


Such potential in this DC line..... wasted.


Lets hope the Marvel SSC line does not turn into this.

Thanks for your thoughts Jedi - let me try and respond to each point you have brought up:

We felt the lantern lighting up was important and that was always planned. There were multiple people on here just a few days ago voicing concern that it did not appear to light up, hence my initial jump onto the board to mention that it will illuminate. Perhaps in hind site I should have just allowed speculation to prevail and not have come on. I seem to be have upset more people with my comments. I see the point you are shooting for with the Mattel comparison but I have to respectfully disagree. At the smaller scale I feel you have better ability to inject 'slug' constructs, i.e. one piece injections. At this larger scale, we can encounter issues with such a large single shot injection so we would have to break the constructs up into multiple pieces like we did with the fist. This does get expensive to tool so many pieces.

Outfit - what is this? We mentioned at SDCC to those we talked with that we were moving away from spandex and 'classic' looks and moving our DC line into our interpretations of the characters. Similar to how we are handling Marvel. We are not going to go way out to left field with them - the goal is that when you see it you will clearly know who is who, but they will look different than anything previously seen in comics, film. I mentioned repeatedly I am not defending anything as I am trying to respect everyones opinion and provide simple clear answers to some of the questions. I believe someone mentioned I was giving a typical Sideshow response - I'm not sure what that is. Respectful, listening and acknowledging critiques, being as clear as I can with responses? I obviously am not going to give you the deep nuts and bolts of every decision as I don't think any company divulges that type of info.

Yes - Actually one of the architects of the design is a huge DC fan. Also we share our designs with Warner Brothers/DC licensing and we make sure they are on board with our designs before we even initiate development. We then share again through each stage to make sure what we are doing is in line with their characters. So, we do share the product with multiple sources prior to release. Ultimately though, it is a Sideshow product so your pointed criticisms of this figure are correct in directing it towards us.

Again - I don't believe I tried justifying the price. If that is how it was interpreted, than I am sorry it came off like that. I was providing straight information on attributes that affect the price. Yes - those other figures came with additional items. They were also priced - prior to production a few years ago as well as with multiple vendors who all have different pricing. Sideshow is a business so we need to adapt to our partners cost while making a profit in the end.

'I have to find a factory that makes figures at $150.00' was a response to Groovy mentioning on 3/19 that (I paraphrase) "the only way to get out of this mess and recoup money spent is to lower to $150.." - I made the mention in jest as a light hearted attempt to 'get out of this mess', unless of course said board member has manufactured sixth scale figures in mass quantities and knows this to be 100% true. I do not think she will share her factory location with me though. Many other companies making figures for $150 or less - sure, of course there are and I think its great they can pull this off. There are also plenty of other companies with similar pricing as us, even more. Its all over. As far as Spook sales - those are sold through Sideshow - not HT, so are you sure that is what Sideshow pays or did Sideshow sell at a loss or in some other strategic decision? I think your example is well thought, but I think its speculative of costs.

As far your point of $250 , with the load out you mention and suit design - honestly you don't know that any more than I whether those results would be favorable. You may buy it, but would enough people buy in mass to make that the right decision for this character and make it highly profitable? Would the people who already bought this Lantern figure have purchased the design you mentioned? I'm sure had we done that, we would now be discussing how 'the hell we justify' a $250 price point with a simpler, spandex suit and clear constructs that don't have paint.

Thanks for a well written and well thought out post. I hope this addresses some of what you mentioned. If not I hope the acknowledgement of your points hold some weight.

If yourself or any other members who are upset about Lantern come to SDCC, I do hope you come to our booth and find myself, Kevin or Jesse and please let us know who you are so we can have a more in depth face to face conversation. We can probably also discuss more details than are worth typing out so please come find us. One of the highlights of SDCC is finally putting a face to the name and meeting you all in person.
 
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