Star Wars: The Force Awakens (12/18/15)

[jye4ever]

Honestly I don't even get the whole white slaver thing.

Who are they enslaving?

Fans, their employees, who?

They made a SW movie, I went to see it.

Disney didn't force me to go see it or forced me to buy SW toys.

WTF is he babbling about, someone please clarify it for me.

He's ****ing crazy.

He married a black woman and now he's running around saying stupid ****.

 

[YoNoSe]

He made a bad joke off the cuff. He apologized for it.

Obviously, the internet will discuss it for years to come.

 

[Xenoburger_]

They could have completely gone overboard and had saber fights like flying ninjas if they had to compete with avengers!

Considering the fact that they're super-powered beings wielding weightless swords with the ability to foresee their opponents' attacks, I'd expect their combat to be far more impressive than anything an Earthly Ninja could do.

 

[The Clown Prince of Crime]

Considering the fact that they're super-powered beings wielding weightless swords with the ability to foresee their opponents' attacks, I'd expect their combat to be far more impressive than anything an Earthly Ninja could do.

Kylo, yes, but not Rey...not yet.

 

[jye4ever]

He's all over the place in that interview, he contradicts himself plenty.

Hates hollywood but always loved movies, grew up on movies but then he says he really didn't grow up on movies.

He spit on his own Kennedy Center Award, then he says it means something to him, wut!

He kept pissing off Charlie Rose.

I'm happy that Rose called him out on it though.

GL hates commercialism yet he became wealthy from it with his merchandising deal.

 

[DiFabio]

Honestly I don't even get the whole white slaver thing.

Who are they enslaving?

Star Wars was/is his child. He compared it to selling his children off in a slavery deal

Considering Disney plans on pumping out a Star Wars movie every year (less than a year already till the next one!), it's an apt comparison. He basically sold off his kid to be put into a labor camp to be milked dry of all it's worth for the almighty dollar. That's what he meant.

To put it simply, Lucas called Disney Watto.

Disney didn't force me to go see it or forced me to buy SW toys.

What is programming and advertising for 500 Alec.

 

[Xenoburger_]

Kylo, yes, but not Rey...not yet.

I didn't think either of them fought like that. Their duels far more resembled the OT. Kylo was slow and dull. Rey was a bit more athletic...meh.

But I agree, Rey shouldn't be skilled with a lightsaber, and Kylo, who was trained by both Luke and Emperor 2.0, should be ****ing **** up PT Anakin/Obi-Wan style.

 

[jye4ever]

Star Wars was/is his child. He compared it to selling his children to slavery.

Considering Disney plans on pumping out a Star Wars movie every year (less than a year already till the next one!), it's an apt comparison. He basically sold off his kid to be put into a labor camp to be milked dry of all it's worth for the almighty dollar. That's what he meant.



What is programming and advertising for 500 Alec.

Ohhh, ok.

Yeah, he totally sold his kids into prostitution.

 

[jye4ever]

For awards consideration, Disney has released the screenplay for Star Wars: The Force Awakens to the Writers Guild, which provides new insight into the film's ending and other key plot points.


According to the script, the planet on which Rey (Daisy Ridley) meets Luke Skywalker (Mark Hamill) during the film's final moments is called "Ahch-to" and is said to feature a "pristine and mighty" ocean that is "dotted with random, beautiful, mountainous black rock islands," as well as "countless green trees." Not much is known about the planet, but /Film notes that Ahch-to is Hebrew for brother, which may be a clue as to Rey's relation to Luke.

The screenplay also makes it clear that Luke is well aware of who Rey is, saying Skywalker "doesn’t need to ask her who she is, or what she is doing here." It also describes Hamill's character has having "kindness in his eyes" despite the "tortured" feelings within.

The vision Rey has when first touching Luke's lightsaber is also detailed, confirming that Cloud City is shown in the opening flashes. Additionally, the script notes that the scene in which Luke is touching R2-D2 is indeed during the attack on his new Jedi Academy.

Additionally, the script confirms that Rey was left in the care of Unbar Plutt (Simon Pegg) when she was abandoned as a child on Jaku, saying: "Unkar Plutt’s meaty hand holds her thin arm" while the starship that brought her there flies off "towards the desert sun."

Adam Driver's Kylo Ren is also further detailed in the screenplay, which notes that Ren is "horrified" and "somehow weakened" when he kills his father Han Solo. Additionally the novelization confirms that Snoke informs Ren that Darth Vader's only weakness was the love he had for Luke, and that was the reason the dark side ultimately fe

The script also emphasizes the fear felt within Ren during his battle with Rey, noting Ridley's character nearly killed him before she realized she was standing "on a greater edge than even the cliff — the edge of the dark side." As such, it's clear Rey also feels the pull of the dark side. In fact, the novelization says she hears an "amorphous" voice telling her kill Ren, which, according to the audio book, appears to be Supreme Leader Snoke.

 

[The Clown Prince of Crime]

I didn't think either of them fought like that. Their duels far more resembled the OT. Kylo was slow and dull. Rey was a bit more athletic...meh.

But I agree, Rey shouldn't be skilled with a lightsaber, and Kylo, who was trained by both Luke and Emperor 2.0, should be ****ing **** up PT Anakin/Obi-Wan style.

Yeah, he should. That's what I meant, although I don't want to see him twirling the saber like Anakin.

 

[The Clown Prince of Crime]

Additionally, the script confirms that Rey was left in the care of Unbar Plutt (Simon Pegg) when she was abandoned as a child on Jaku, saying: "Unkar Plutt’s meaty hand holds her thin arm" while the starship that brought her there flies off "towards the desert sun."

The script also emphasizes the fear felt within Ren during his battle with Rey, noting Ridley's character nearly killed him before she realized she was standing "on a greater edge than even the cliff — the edge of the dark side." As such, it's clear Rey also feels the pull of the dark side. In fact, the novelization says she hears an "amorphous" voice telling her kill Ren, which, according to the audio book, appears to be Supreme Leader Snoke.

That doesn't sound familiar at all. Having said that, the best thing Rey can do is give the saber to Luke and leave. Forget all that jedi crap. It's clear there's something evil and unnatural about it when even she can go to the "dark side." That's how you defeat the villains.

 

[DiFabio]

And I got this feeling Rey is either Luke's daughter or "created from the force" by either Luke or Snoke or some ****.

Things are gonna get weird.

 

[morphosis]

That doesn't sound familiar at all.

As i wrote last night, Snoke believes in using both sides of the force, Dark and Light will be the most powerful. Thats what he is training Kylo to do, and Rey was confronted with it as well fighting Kylo, but she chose not to kill him. She didn't give in to the Dark Side.

Also in Plutts history, he and a few of his thugs went after Rey to Maz's Castle and tried to get the Falcon back. But after confronting her and attacking her, Chewie stepped in. Chewie indicated he would fight Plutt, but as Plutt laughed it off basically saying "what can a Wookie do to him and his thugs", Chewie rips one of Plutts arms off.

 

[Leon 911]

I didn't think either of them fought like that. Their duels far more resembled the OT. Kylo was slow and dull. Rey was a bit more athletic...meh.

But I agree, Rey shouldn't be skilled with a lightsaber, and Kylo, who was trained by both Luke and Emperor 2.0, should be ****ing **** up PT Anakin/Obi-Wan style.

Kylo - was badly injured - he kept thumping his left chest 3-4 times to keep himself going! Also he was not trying to chop of Rey's head. He was torn apart and was even trying to recruit her as she kept putting up a fight. I think there were complex emotions playing in kylos head and the director and Adam both did justice to that and being injured and in pain both physical and emotional he was doing best he could against Rey. Rey being a prodigy obviously as you indicated couldn't have been flying around as she had discovered her powers only that day!

The only thing that puzzled me big time was that - Finn was not a force user so kylo could have just frozen him like he froze Rey earlier when he captured her. So the kylo Finn fight was out of place - unless again he was weakened by the blow he took from chewie and then that would also mean his force powers were at an all time low. Just cause Finn said come and get the Saber dint mean he could not have got it by freezing him - he chose to fight cause I think he was not as strong on the force with the damage


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[Darth Snoopy]

Oh my god seriously who cares about the comparisons to New Hope? It's like people are so desperate to tear this apart they are beating a dead horse. Are they similar? Yes. Is the movie good? In my opinion hell yes. It's fun and enjoyable entertainment with like able characters.


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But Freaks love beating a dead horse, it's like a board pastime!

Come on, George! Own it! What's Disney gonna do? Take back the check?

Uncle George is probably worried that the Mouse will do to him like this.

 

[Leon 911]

Awesome one!!!

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[Wor-Gar]

For awards consideration, Disney has released the screenplay for Star Wars: The Force Awakens to the Writers Guild, which provides new insight into the film's ending and other key plot points.

What PA typed this? -- it is full of typos.

 

[The Clown Prince of Crime]

While you make many good pints - I think we should look at things with a slight positive mind! They could have completely gone overboard and had saber fights like flying ninjas if they had to compete with avengers! I mean even Luke's jump back in the day were ridiculous when fighting vader! - the difference that time was that - there were no forums like these to complain! I think they did very very good for movie 1 to show a natural born force prodigy and someone who worships the force and has tried hard but yet to learn a lot!
Some people just are a natural!
Examples exist in every field - sport, science, business, and Rey is just that with the force! Point being - the OT also had several flaws and all movies will - but we as fans must allow some creativity and leeway!

I would say that the originals having several flaws is an understatement, but the new one has so many things that make no sense that it makes it difficult to ignore. Honestly, if I were to make a list of everything wrong with this film...it would take the whole page The only reason I haven't, is because the film was entertaining and because I'd like to see it a few more times to make sure some of those problems are indeed real and not just my lack of attention.

 

[Leon 911]

I would say that the originals having several flaws is an understatement, but the new one has so many things that make no sense that it makes it difficult to ignore. Honestly, if I were to make a list of everything wrong with this film...it would take the whole page The only reason I haven't, is because the film was entertaining and because I'd like to see it a few more times to make sure some of those problems are indeed real and not just my lack of attention.

i understand and agree ... there is no "complex movie" that you cant do that with... TDKR, TDK, inception... and the list will go on. I personally think - it was a stellar movie... and imagine how many folks across the world - many teenagers will now further watch the OTs and the subsequent 8 and 9 ... we can all be as **** as we want, but the facts are facts.... here is a movie that is breaking almost every record possible in 12 days time.. and more importantly here is a movie which people across the star wars generation OT, PT and newbees are all enjoying to the core... thats why we need to probably look at the positive side... it has been a remarkable feat for disney to do this... that too for a franchise which has believers like us who always felt nothing ever could come close to OT...
i for one had a blast watching the movie... again and again it had all the right angels and right players...thats one more reason why Lucas is crying... he himself had written off the possibility of star wars sequels being this great!

 

[morphosis]

i understand and agree ... there is no "complex movie" that you cant do that with... TDKR, TDK, inception... and the list will go on. I personally think - it was a stellar movie... and imagine how many folks across the world - many teenagers will now further watch the OTs and the subsequent 8 and 9 ... we can all be as **** as we want, but the facts are facts.... here is a movie that is breaking almost every record possible in 12 days time.. and more importantly here is a movie which people across the star wars generation OT, PT and newbees are all enjoying to the core... thats why we need to probably look at the positive side... it has been a remarkable feat for disney to do this... that too for a franchise which has believers like us who always felt nothing ever could come close to OT...
i for one had a blast watching the movie... again and again it had all the right angels and right players...thats one more reason why Lucas is crying... he himself had written off the possibility of star wars sequels being this great!

I agree with what you said except for the first 4 words where you understand and agree with Clown Prince
The truth is the vast majority who has seen the movie has beyond loved it!!! I don't care what the naysayers think. Its their own problem if they can't enjoy it. And i hate to know what movies they actually do like, if any. But its a very small group compared to those who loved it.