Star Wars: Episode IX - THE RISE OF SKYWALKER

[Nailz]

If every jedi fades and disappears when they die.... why does REY not fade away when she died? Or is this Kylo reviving Rey Bull crap?

 

[Wick]

Selective reality.

And people don't think the world will be sucked into VR in the future? The Matrix will be real, but MAN made.
MSNBC has already proved that 38% of the population of the US can exist in a bubble.

Fixed

 

[Nailz]

the last trailer had James Earl Jones and Vader talking to Kylo, how many minutes did vader have in the film?

 

[The Buffinator]

If every jedi fades and disappears when they die.... why does REY not fade away when she died? Or is this Kylo reviving Rey Bull crap?

Well, I'm guessing she wasn't quite dead yet. Actually, I was relieved when Ben Again/Not Kylo faded away; for a second there I envisioned a neverending loop of force healing back and forth, and at that point my bladder needed them to start wrapping things up.

 

[The Buffinator]

lmfaoooo martha!?

Well yes, it did have the same "Messiah Murder Interruptus" effect, didn't it? But thankfully (with apologies to SilverStar17) not THAT contrived and eye roll inducing.

 

[geekjosh]

Yeah the critics vs the audience score being pretty much a reverse from The Last Jedi, really makes me think critics are out of touch with Star Wars.

But meh, I enjoyed this movie and rank The Last Jedi as one of the bottom 2 films in the entire franchise.

 

[BoosterGold06]

If every jedi fades and disappears when they die.... why does REY not fade away when she died? Or is this Kylo reviving Rey Bull crap?

Since when does every Jedi disappear when they die? Do you not remember them burning Qui-Gon's body?

 

[jimcap]

Well, I'm guessing she wasn't quite dead yet. Actually, I was relieved when Ben Again/Not Kylo faded away; for a second there I envisioned a neverending loop of force healing back and forth, and at that point my bladder needed them to start wrapping things up.

 

[jye4ever]

What an immensely missed opportunity by not having the entire core Jedi characters force ghosts of Yoda, Luke, Leia, Anakin, ObiWan, Qui-Gon and Mace surrounding Palpatine in that circular room empowering Rey.

They did that but in voice only which was just not visually as exciting as actually seeing them there supporting her or maybe even one of them blocking the lightning like Valkyrie helped Conan in CTB.


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[Saintv1]

This movie had people casually raising the dead, and some people are still complaining about Leia using... *checks notes*...force pull?

I feel like I am on a completely different page from most of the fandom.

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[ajp4mgs]

I actually have no problem with JJ ignoring TLJ. He started the trilogy, so he should get to finish it however he wanted. I didn't even have much of a problem with the fan service. The last movie of the saga kinda needs a heavy hand in that way. My problem is how stupid the plot is, and how stupidly it moves along in its execution. It's like the writers decided that fans would be so taken in by the SW "feels" that it didn't matter how dumb and nonsensical the plot would be. And the audience reaction seems to be proving them right.

Here is a very small sampling of the stupidity of this plot:

Spoiler:

Palpatine's plan involved unveiling a HUGE fleet of Star Destroyers with planet-killing weapons. He has them literally rise from under the ground. When we get to see inside, these ships have tons of troops and their own command crews. So . . . are we supposed to believe that all of those people were just hanging out underground all this time waiting for Kylo to find his way there?

Palpatine tells Rey that he wants her to kill him. That's his plan; because then all of the Sith spirits will inhabit her body and allow her to become the new Sith "empress." Then Rey kills him . . . and she's fine. In fact, killing Palpatine ends up destroying everything and everyone in the vicinity (apparently by just having rocks and boulders crashing around).

Among the things destroyed were hundreds (maybe thousands) of robed Sith acolytes (I guess; not quite sure WTF they were). They're all just sitting in the grandstands of the Sith Temple, chanting. Like those in the Star Destroyers, they've apparently been there waiting for Kylo/Rey to arrive. They're killed by debris.

Leia dies, but her body doesn't disappear for what is at least hours (could be days). Her body disappears when Ben's does. How does that work? A dead Jedi body waits for the best dramatic moment in order to disappear now? WTF?

Palpatine steals "Life Force" from Rey and Kylo to rebuild himself (actually regrows his fingers in the process ). Yet all of this "Life Force" drained from Rey and Kylo has no effect on them. They're fine. Life force sucked out . . . still strong as ever.

Kylo is left stranded on the Death Star wreckage because Rey takes his TIE Fighter. He then shows up to help her in an OT TIE. Not only does that suggest that he actually found an old school TIE in the Death Star wreckage that actually still works, it's also apparently equipped with a hyperdrive (totally conflicting with what we know about TIE Fighters from the OT).

Hux is a spy (even saying so in an on-the-nose line of dialogue that made me laugh out loud over the stupidity of it). And his reason for betraying the FO? He doesn't care who wins the war . . . he just doesn't want Kylo to win.

Rey senses Chewbacca on a Star Destroyer. How the hell did Vader ever have a problem sensing where his targets were? You don't need to be related to them, and they don't need to be Force users.

Rey actually pulls a ****ing ship in mid-air that was flying away! And then Kylo starts pulling it to create a tug of war. I **** you not. How the **** did Vader ever let the Falcon get away from him on Hoth then? Was Vader really this inept!?

The command crew in the main star destroyer knows that the Resistance is riding horses (holy **** ) on the surface of their ship to take out an antenna tower. So, do they simply tilt the vessel to make them drop off the edge? Nope. Why not? Reasons.

Jedi can heal and resurrect people now. "They heal now!" "They heal now?" "They heal now."

I can go on and on for hours (and maybe I will at some point just for catharsis). The problems I have with this movie are limited to the stupidity of the story. It's full of plot conveniences and contrivances. Every stumbling block is overcome by some random solution pulled out of thin air. The narrative is a convoluted mess that makes no sense. The plot structure boggles the mind.

But nothing has me more numb than sitting there when the credits started rolling and realizing how many people were applauding what they saw. Wow!

This movie had people casually raising the dead, and some people are still complaining about Leia using... *checks notes*...force pull?

I feel like I am on a completely different page from most of the fandom.

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You're not alone. There's at least two of us.

 

[Wor-Gar]

It felt like it was trying way too hard to be Endgame.

Complete with Lando's "On your left" line...

Here is a very small sampling of the stupidity of this plot:

Spoiler:

Palpatine's plan involved unveiling a HUGE fleet of Star Destroyers with planet-killing weapons. He has them literally rise from under the ground. When we get to see inside, these ships have tons of troops and their own command crews. So . . . are we supposed to believe that all of those people were just hanging out underground all this time waiting for Kylo to find his way there?

Palpatine tells Rey that he wants her to kill him. That's his plan; because then all of the Sith spirits will inhabit her body and allow her to become the new Sith "empress." Then Rey kills him . . . and she's fine. In fact, killing Palpatine ends up destroying everything and everyone in the vicinity (apparently by just having rocks and boulders crashing around).

Among the things destroyed were hundreds (maybe thousands) of robed Sith acolytes (I guess; not quite sure WTF they were). They're all just sitting in the grandstands of the Sith Temple, chanting. Like those in the Star Destroyers, they've apparently been there waiting for Kylo/Rey to arrive. They're killed by debris.

Leia dies, but her body doesn't disappear for what is at least hours (could be days). Her body disappears when Ben's does. How does that work? A dead Jedi body waits for the best dramatic moment in order to disappear now? WTF?

Palpatine steals "Life Force" from Rey and Kylo to rebuild himself (actually regrows his fingers in the process ). Yet all of this "Life Force" drained from Rey and Kylo has no effect on them. They're fine. Life force sucked out . . . still strong as ever.

Kylo is left stranded on the Death Star wreckage because Rey takes his TIE Fighter. He then shows up to help her in an OT TIE. Not only does that suggest that he actually found an old school TIE in the Death Star wreckage that actually still works, it's also apparently equipped with a hyperdrive (totally conflicting with what we know about TIE Fighters from the OT).

Hux is a spy (even saying so in an on-the-nose line of dialogue that made me laugh out loud over the stupidity of it). And his reason for betraying the FO? He doesn't care who wins the war . . . he just doesn't want Kylo to win.

Rey senses Chewbacca on a Star Destroyer. How the hell did Vader ever have a problem sensing where his targets were? You don't need to be related to them, and they don't need to be Force users.

Rey actually pulls a ****ing ship in mid-air that was flying away! And then Kylo starts pulling it to create a tug of war. I **** you not. How the **** did Vader ever let the Falcon get away from him on Hoth then? Was Vader really this inept!?

The command crew in the main star destroyer knows that the Resistance is riding horses (holy **** ) on the surface of their ship to take out an antenna tower. So, do they simply tilt the vessel to make them drop off the edge? Nope. Why not? Reasons.

Jedi can heal and resurrect people now. "They heal now!" "They heal now?" "They heal now."

CLASSIC information here.

 

[jye4ever]

ajp if stormtroopers can have magnetic boots that walk on trains it only makes sense that horses owned by ex stormtroopers also have magnetic hooves.

Please try harder lulz


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[Wor-Gar]

Someone a long time ago posted a picture of the TROS crawl... where is that now? I really want to see it. I couldn't believe it was real when I first saw it.

 

[ajp4mgs]

ajp if stormtroopers can have magnetic boots that walk on trains it only makes sense that horses owned by ex stormtroopers also have magnetic hooves.

Please try harder lulz


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Yeah. The ex stormtroopers that went awol in unison. The stormtroopers that were all trained for battle since they were toddlers. A whole platoon of them suddenly realized on their first mission that stormtrooping would involve killing people. Holy ****ing ****!!!

No wonder Phasma was such a chump and easy to deal with; her trooper training makes it evident how useless she was. How the **** did the FO ever become a threat to the New Republic!?

I look forward to being able to laugh at this complete mess in the days ahead, but right now I'm just too blown away by how this script actually got a thumbs up from film executives for the final installment of the Skywalker Saga.

 

[jye4ever]

Someone a long time ago posted a picture of the TROS crawl... where is that now? I really want to see it. I couldn't believe it was real when I first saw it.

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[jye4ever]

Yeah. The ex stormtroopers that went awol in unison. The stormtroopers that were all trained for battle since they were toddlers. A whole platoon of them suddenly realized on their first mission that stormtrooping would involve killing people. Holy ****ing ****!!!

No wonder Phasma was such a chump and easy to deal with; her trooper training makes it evident how useless she was. How the **** did the FO ever become a threat to the New Republic!?

I look forward to being able to laugh at this complete mess in the days ahead, but right now I'm just too blown away by how this script actually got a thumbs up from film executives for the final installment of the Skywalker Saga.

Umm who was Palpatines son lol


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[ajp4mgs]

Umm who was Palpatines son lol


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He was the guy who Palpatine killed because the granddaughter would be useful. Not the son. Superpowers skip a generation.

 

[Darkseed]

Impressive crawl.....

 

[Wor-Gar]

Its like the Exorcist crawl, only reversed.