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So with KK gone Disney will now all of a sudden just fully abandon agenda based cinema.
Is it really that simple.
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Is it really that simple.
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So with KK gone Disney will now all of a sudden just fully abandon agenda based cinema.
Is it really that simple.
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It can be if that's the way certain people want it. Disney can remove whatever they want from official cannon, they did just that when they bought the franchise.
Yeah but we all know that books really dont count in the first place
The films do.. But the books, comics, and video games.. Nah.
They did it with ahsoka already sure she was part of the animated clone wars then rebels but she was killed then her death was retconed using that same world between worlds device to bring her back. Now she will be in mandolorian season 2 and there are talks she will get either her own spinoff live action show or a movie so there is already a precedence for it. Nobody seems to care they used the world between worlds device to do this most are just excited to see her in live action. Hell they are even doing it with boba fett. I hold the same would be true if they use it to retcon the movies. Since the emperor basically caused all of the events that occurrd in the st, removing him from the equation completely erases the events of the st confining it to its own story that exist in a seperate universe or realm. Sure it would bother some people at first mainly the st lovers but in the long run it could get people excited for star wars again. Right now nobody gives a rats ass and thats a huge problem for disney. It has nowhere to go from here, nobody even cares to see another star wars movie released by them. Star wars world was a complete flop because it focuaed on the st, had it been designed after degobah or tatoonie it would have been a huge hit. Disney realizes they have a huge problem right now and honestly this is the best way to fix it.
Oh I don't know.. George sold off his films because of the massive backlash he had.
I agree that people came around to the PT a bit more. I think some of that had to do with a lot of blockbuster films story quality taking a nose dive. Its much easier to accept ROTS when Transformers 2,3,4,5, the Mummy Movies, Fast and Furious franchise, and other dreck are out there.
As for the ST being a failure.
Adjusted for inflation
#11 TFA beats out #19 TPM
#44 TLJ beats out #70 ROTS
#88 TROS beats out #100 TCW
That's the ST $2,161,601,843 to the PT $1,903,095,724
I don't post these numbers because I am saying that its proof that the ST was better then the PT.. I just don't think that the ST was this huge failure.
I do think that expectations went way up after TFA was the number one movie of all time (not adjusted for inflation) and TLJ hurt any chance of TROS making much bigger bank.
IMO all the issues with the ST begin and end at TLJ. TROS really didn't have a chance after that. Even if the story was to everyone's liking. I really think it was TLJ that killed everyone's excitement. I think that had TLJ been a decent film, TROS would have been much bigger and more well liked even if it was the same exact movie with the exact same problems (See ROTJ)
The drop from TFA at #11 to TROS to #88 really shows that. The same could be said for TPM having a bad impact on the next two film of the PT. going from #19 to TCW #100. Yes ROTS went back up to #70 but that is not even that big of a jump being that it was the film that was finally giving us what we wanted to see and the return of Vader.
As for the lack of interest in the ST.
I really don't know much about that. I don't collect ST or PT items. I don't read the books or comics. Is Disney even allowing people to write books right now?? That could be a reason that books are not flying off the shelves? IDK. Comic sales are down all over the place.
As for Halloween costumes.. LOL I don't see anything except OT.. And I see very little of that.
There is just too much competition for kids attention these days.
Time will tell if young kids today hold up the ST like the young kids of yesterday now hold up the PT. I don't know if they will... Do girls hold onto or collect as much as boys do??? Having the ST center around a female hero in a series that mostly has the male market being the ones who continue to buy and collect does not bode well.
The massive hate for the ST seems to come from those who grew up with and loved the PT.. Much like the hate of the PT came from those that loved the OT.
I would say that OT fans seem to be overall unhappy with both. Even I only really enjoyed TROS and that is because it was the one film in the ST that embraced being a fun adventure. It was problematic for sure but as I have always said so are most SW movies in the saga accept for the first two films.
Hell I am even a grumpy bastard when it comes to The Mandalorian.. I think its average at best so far and its popularity revolves solely around Baby Yoda.
IMO the best thing to come out of any of the post SW films was parts of TPM, the last 30 min of RO, Ben Solo/Kylo Ren and many parts of TROS, and TCW tv show.
Everything else is very Meh.
But its all been a very a big money maker.
Well except for Solo
Yeah but we all know that books really dont count in the first place
The films do.. But the books, comics, and video games.. Nah.
Make a great film.... And they will come.
No Alternate realities needed.
Jaws...... my buddy jaws. Don?t bring numbers into it. Star Wars is going to make money. But with each film it went lower and lower. Transformers made bank and it?s all but forgotten. Remember those movies? No one talks about them anymore. Same with ST. You can say the PT sucks all you want but people still talk about it. It?s still popular. ST ain?t. It?s dead. Sorry to say.
Also it?s OT fans who hate the ST. Probably cause they messed up the characters. As you can see. The only people who like the films are a handful and only three people talk about constantly in this thread lol
Very true please forgive a-dev he is a child of the 90s
That?s ok if you don?t know it.
I mean Khev would know it.
But that?s ok don?t feel bad.
Super Battle Droids
Different for sure. Comparing literature and film is apples to effing bowling balls. But what is more damaging, a book that only a few thousand people know exists, or a movie trilogy despised by about 75% of your paying customers. So the point still stands, if the right folks want something gone, it's gone.
After destroying the sequel trilogy all good will was lost. If they admit thier mistakes and redo it they can salvage the universe. I dont believe they can just make a new star wars film set in the old republic and its a garanteed success. People dont trust disney with the property anymore, thier idea of what star is doesnt jive with the majority of star wars fans. Not to mention anything they attempt now with kk at the helm will have negativity attached to it before it even starts. Kk has no clue how to make a good star wars movie, you honestly think any new movie they put out under her watch is going to be some revelation. Star wars branding is ****ed the only way to fix it is to admit mistakes and just ****ing redue it. Its the only way they will get people to believe they learned from past mistakes, are trying too make good Star wars films again and/or have righted the ship going forward
Yep, lol.
Took me a while to remember when the SBD were even in that show..
How come they didn't talk with funny voices when killing Mando's people
It?s absolutely hilarious to see the same three, who defended the ST to the moon and back, all in unison say they don?t care about their precious ST being done for.
Y?all trying to put on a strong face, but we all know you guys are lookin like this
ST IS BEING RETCONNED
It?s absolutely hilarious to see the same three, who defended the ST to the moon and back, all in unison say they don?t care about their precious ST being done for.
Y?all trying to put on a strong face, but we all know you guys are lookin like this
ST IS BEING RETCONNED
Doomcock hmmm
Isn?t doomcock what happens to you when Brian Singer invites you over to go swimming
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