Devil_666
Super Freak
Yeah.. it wasn't like you said it out of the blue or in a random thread. It was prompted by the conversation in this thread.. and I understood your point completely. Everyone is entitled to their opinion.
new TDK Joker sculpt
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Starkiller
Super Freak
Looks like a cross between a sad puppy dog and Kurt Loader...sorry my friend.
It's not Heath.
It's not Heath.
Keep it civil guys. If you don't like something, kindly say why and what could be done to improve it. Comments like "it looks like crap" or even "doesn't look like Heath" do not help anyone. Constructive criticisim please.
Remember, if sculpting was easy, everyone would do it.
Remember, if sculpting was easy, everyone would do it.
Hecubus
Super Freak
Looking MUCH better - be careful when using images of Ledger without the Joker makeup - the prosthetics actually changed the shape of his face quite a bit. Think about how much he still didnt look like himself in the scene where he shot at the mayor... I thought you had a pretty decent likeness from the start - at the rate your going, it'll be perfect before too long.
aussieinnyc
Super Freak
That's actually a good point - the photo posted of Ledger that your sculpt now looks very much like is him in a rather pleasant sort of mood. While I still think you should keep going on this sculpt (to create a great, prosthetic-free Ledger) you might find that in his role as the Joker the emotion he put into the role changed the shape of the facial muscles. The pic of him with the appliances on, but no other make-up actually looks almost nothing like the character of the Joker we saw.
SovereignStudio
Super Freak
Agreed. I did a quick make-up job in photoshop over that Ledger photo and, though it is Ledger, it didn't look like the Joker. Those test shots are pretty good reference for the scars, though Heat brought that make-up to life 10 times over.
Yup. To my eye he was usually pushing his lips and the entire lower portion of his face forward. That's where that protruded upper lip "duck bill" thing I tried to describe earlier came from. The HT sculpt has it, so does Chris's. My old one did, though I think I overstated it quite a bit in that version.
On a side not I've heard rumors that Kurt Loder will actually replace Ledger in the 3rd film, so I'm still on track
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They havent even thought of a script yet....all rumors are false until they are done writing.
LChinoz
Super Freak
I believe Heath I read somewhere he wore a brow piece as well as the scar prosthetics, so the pics of him with just the scars would not look very menacing. Naturally his eyebrows go up in the middle of his face which gives him a bit of a sad look a lot of the time. This could be the reason for the brow piece. See my avatar, the only thing he is missing in that pic is the make-up. IMO though it still looks like Heath, but the Joker as well.
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SovereignStudio
Super Freak
Yeah, I've thought he wore more than just the mouth scars myself. He was only 28, I believe and had a smooth face. The thing with prosthetics, there's the "meat" of the piece and you have the wide, tissue-thin flange that's blended off into the skin. I think most or all of the fine lines in his face were just that thin foam latex wrinkling as he contorted his face. Even in your avatar he's still wearing the black eye make-up, as it's tough to make such a nice, trust-worthy face like Heath's look menacing. It's there, just not as heavy; more of an Ozzy Osbourne effect. Also, if you compare the two real pics of Heath I posted his eyebrows have been shaved down and shaped to look more angry in that make-up test shot.
Here's round one of the "Joker-fication" of the Heath sculpt. I pushed his brow down a bit, too. Still a WIP. Constructive comments and opinions welcome and appreciated. I'll try to get a couple pics later on that don't make his nose look like a turnip
The Ringer
Super Freak
That looks pretty darn good IMO.
Also it looks like you have the scarring down to a science.
Also it looks like you have the scarring down to a science.
SovereignStudio
Super Freak
Looking at pics (Snake ^^^^er's avatar in particular) should I lower the hairline? Seems like I gave him too much forehead. Might be a fivehead.
SovereignStudio
Super Freak
Morbach
Super Freak
I understand where you're coming from. I just thought that was a little harsh but we can all be harsh and it is better to keep that inside and not say it. I don't like being negative or shooting anyone down. And you are right we are hard on some companies,it's just worse in my opinion when it's a person doing a sculpt who gets shot down because that's a guy trying to make a living and not a huge company guy getting paid.
The Ringer
Super Freak
^^^^er, thought I would try it out.
The censor is making it seem like your saying something worse than what was acctually said
Morbach
Super Freak
The censor is making it seem like your saying something worse than what was acctually said
I know
that's what I thought was being said.
Voorhees27
Super Freak
Yeah he was typing ^^^^er but it looks alot like ^^^^er, can you see the difference?
Its also like saying "Man that guy is a big ^^^^er for doing that" Now, which one did I say?
Wait a sec, this is just a test ^^^^!
Its also like saying "Man that guy is a big ^^^^er for doing that" Now, which one did I say?
Wait a sec, this is just a test ^^^^!
LChinoz
Super Freak
One time ^^^^^ ^^ ^^^^^^^^ ^^^^^^ ^^^^^^^^ ^^^^^^^ ^^^^^^^ ^^^^^^ ^^^^ and the cow got up unharmed.
SovereignStudio
Super Freak
Yeah he was typing ^^^^er but it looks alot like ^^^^er, can you see the difference?
Its also like saying "Man that guy is a big ^^^^er for doing that" Now, which one did I say?
Wait a sec, this is just a test ^^^^!
Yeah, that's why I posted again!
I din't want Snake to think I was insulting him Sometimes censorship has the opposite of its intended effect. 
Anyway, about that hairline?
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