SPOILERS & RUMORS for The Walking Dead TV Series *Enter at your own risk*

[pixletwin]

SPOILERS & RUMORS for The Walking Dead TV Series *Enter at your own risk*

I dunno. With the whole string of Morgan's "all life is precious" stuff... They may still do it... But then again Morgan did kill that savior to save Carol...

 

[xipotec]

I have a question for you TWD GN readers...Doesn't Rosita get decapitated and her head ends up on a spike? Who does it and why?

Yes...Whisperers...Omega

 

[averagejo]

Yes...Whisperers...Omega

Thanks...I'm going to have to read up on the Whisperers.

 

[GodzillaSpawn]

The shows done jacked up things to begin with. I'm sure the show will attempt to make Negan easier to root for. Some fans will do so. Some viewers may always see him as the main villain. But Rick's group has done ****** things. I think things get forgiven pretty quickly on a zombie apocalypse show. I mean fans were already blaming darryl for Glenn's death and not Negan and this was on the night of the premiere. As if Negan is like a hurricane or something and not a man who didn't have to butcher Glenn.

So give it a several weeks and Negan will be even more popular than he is now.

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[screamingmetal]

The shows done jacked up things to begin with. I'm sure the show will attempt to make Negan easier to root for. Some fans will do so. Some viewers may always see him as the main villain. But Rick's group has done ****** things. I think things get forgiven pretty quickly on a zombie apocalypse show. I mean fans were already blaming darryl for Glenn's death and not Negan and this was on the night of the premiere. As if Negan is like a hurricane or something and not a man who didn't have to butcher Glenn.

So give it a several weeks and Negan will be even more popular than he is now.

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I don't know about that, I've been following the TV series and for the most part I thought the group (does the main group have a name that I'm missing, they should) have been justified in their actions. Negan's Saviors had been threatening the Hilltop and Alexandrea with violence if they didn't pay up, I don't remember Rick using the threat of violence to force people to provide, just offering protection in exchange. Also I don't remember Rick or any of the main group enjoying beating to death anyone. I just don't see Rick and his group as bad people unlike Negan and his Saviors at this point.

 

[GodzillaSpawn]

I don't know about that, I've been following the TV series and for the most part I thought the group (does the main group have a name that I'm missing, they should) have been justified in their actions. Negan's Saviors had been threatening the Hilltop and Alexandrea with violence if they didn't pay up, I don't remember Rick using the threat of violence to force people to provide, just offering protection in exchange. Also I don't remember Rick or any of the main group enjoying beating to death anyone. I just don't see Rick and his group as bad people unlike Negan and his Saviors at this point.

I mean Rick has shown to be pretty tyrannical himself at times and was going to steal Alexandria and kill whomever put up resistance. He wanted a woman that he admitted was the reason he had beef with the husband, which of course ended in a full on beatdown. Rick just goes back and forth over that line. Negan might be further along...but morally speaking that didn't stop people from loving Shane or the Governor. People of course hated them too but negan already seems very popular in comparison..more than both of them were probably. But negan has charisma and he is engaging on screen. I think he'll soar.

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[greygoose]

Most of them are bad guys now, some are just bigger dicks the way they go about it.

 

[Centurion]

Most of them are bad guys now, some are just bigger dicks the way they go about it.

No doubt. The conditions of the times they are in calls for this type of behavior.

 

[greygoose]

No doubt. The conditions of the times they are in calls for this type of behavior.

Exactly. It's why the way the show is heading has great potential. With no laws and the need to survive this is how it would be (sadly).

 

[averagejo]

Sorry I haven't been around with any spoilers lately....long story...Anyways here's something for you

Q&A Episode 7.8 "Hearts Still Beating"


What's going on at the Hilltop?

Maggie and Gregory have some words with each other. He seems jealous that people at Hilltop are talking about Maggie and Sasha and how great they are. Sasha lies to Maggie about Jesus' whereabouts. Enid knows the truth and questions Sasha about her lie.


Does Rick see Negan holding Judith?

No, he does not return in time for that. He does find out that Carl went to the Sanctuary however.

What happens with Rick and Aaron after they return to ASZ?

A couple Saviors go through their haul, and then beat the holy crap out of Aaron while Rick is forced to watch.


Does Spencer get the guts to ask Negan about getting rid of Rick as the leader?

He does, and Negan initially disagrees that he has guts, until he slices Spencer’s abdomen open, finding them. This all happens during a game of pool with several onlookers.


Does Rick witness Negan gutting Spencer?

No. He is helping Aaron to his house when they hear the shot from Rosita's gun ring out. By the time Rick gets to the pool table Spencer and Olivia are both dead.

How does the episode end?

Rick and the ASZ gang go to Hilltop to talk with Maggie, and Rick admits Maggie was right from the start. Surprise! Daryl is there! Rick and Daryl hug it out and Daryl presents Rick with his Python that he retrieved from Dead Joey. Very sweet reunions all around. Rick finally has his fight back and the group is ready to push forward against Negan.

Then later on a shadowy figure hangs out at night peering at Father Gabriel standing watch at ASZ through binoculars. It shows their boots, the same ones that followed Rick and Aaron from the pond area. The figure starts off walking toward ASZ and disappears into the dark.

 

[pixletwin]

I am guessing the shadowy figure is Dwight.

 

[averagejo]

And....

Summary of MSF 7.08 "Hearts Still Beating"


The 90 minute episode happens at Alexandria, The Kingdom, Sanctuary Hilltop and the place where Rick and Aaron found the supplies in the last episode.

Hilltop Grgeorgy is talking to Maggie who looks like she despises him.

ASZ Negan has made himself right at home and is shaving with Carl and Judith sitting in the room with him.
Afterwards Negan is cooking. Who taugh Carl how to make biscuit dough?

Olivia has to bring Negan the lemonade he demanded she make him. After all that happened in the last episode, she has an obvious panic attack before she has to go to meet him. Tara brings her the can of lemonade poweder and helps Olivia compose herself, just as in the sneak peek.

Looks as though Negan, Carl, Judith and Olivia will have a lunch together waiting for Rick and the others to return. Negan wants Rick to be there to have lunch with them too, but he doesn't come back in time. He tells Carl "I'm not waiting for your dad any more. I don't know where the hell he is, but Lucille is hungry" That meal isn't going to be an easy one for Carl or Olivia to digest.

Caches Pond Rick and Aaron want to get the supply caches guarded by walkers. The problems are the caches are at the far side of the pond from them, the water is full of walkers (or is that "swimmers") and the only boat is full of bullet holes. Rick is determined to find a way to get through.

ASZ Back at Alexandria, Arat, the woman Savious Negan brought with him, has her eye on Spencer, not seemingly not for lemonade.

The Kingdom Carol! She's reading a book in her small house. Morgan came over to deliver her some food, putting it in front of the door, so she invites him inside. She called Morgan to come visit her, asks him how he is and then tells him "How are you?" He says "good" and then she says, "Now you can go".

A guy, Richard, shows up with more fruit and vegetables for Carol but says he has to speak with both Carol and Morgan.

Caches Pond Rick and Aaron have problems in the bullet hole-filled boat. It is fuilling up with water quickly and walker start surrounding the leaky boat. It looks like Aaron hgets swarmed and is a goner but he turns up safe after all.

The Sanctuary Daryl got some note that says "go now". Is it another Negan trap for him or is it real? Daryl takes the chance and is trying to escape. He sneaks into somebody's (Dwight's?) room, takes their clothes and now sits on the couch eating something.

Seems like Daryl is going to **** up somebody on his way out of The Sanctuary.

Caches Pond Rick and Aaron got their supplies so they start chatting about life.

Female Saviour's car Michonne is in the the car with the female Saviour she captured in the last episode who she is forcing to drive her to Negan's compound.

Hilltop Sasha brings Maggie an apple pie. Enid is staying with Maggie.

The Kingdom Ricjard tells Carol he came to her because Ezekiele likes and trusts her just like he does with Morgan. Richard wanted to talk with them both toegther. Richard wants The Kindgon to go after Negan and The Saviours with Carol and Morgan helping make the Kingdom side plan. Richard says he wants to convince Ezekiel to take out The Saviours.

Alexandria Father Gabriel has a chat with Rosita about her going to kill Negan. Her anger hasn't stopped Spencer from inviting her over to dinner and she agrees to go. This is not going to be a good day for Spencer.

The Kingdom After hearing out Richard, Carol doesn;t want to take part in attacking The Saviours. She was their hostage last season of course and was lucky to get away with Maggie. Carol still wants to be left alone by everone and not get involved.

The Sanctuary Daryl kills Fat Joey on his way out of the Sanctuary, but Jesus saw him do it as he coming up behind a truck when it happened.

ASZ Spencer goes to meet Negan. He wants to "get closer to THEM"

Close to the Sanctuary Michonne finally sees the compound and seems surprised by how big it is and how many Saviours it can hold.

ASZ Rick and Aaron arrive back in Alexandria. Spencer and Negan are drinking on the porch like new best buddies. Spencer is, as usual, trying to badmouth Rick, this time to Negan.

Some Saviours beat the crap out of Aaron for nothing at all except because they can, just like at The Kingdom.

Spencer goes too far with his backstabbing and whining, so Negan kills him for trying to convince him to Kill Rick and let Spencer take over Alexandria as the new leader. Negan likes his rules and loyalty and Rick was out there gathering supplies as ordered while Spencer just stayed home.

Rosita pulls her gun and shoots at Negan in front of the huge group of Saviours. The bullet hits Lucille though, not Negan, just like in the comic. Carl's bullet it was in the comic.

Negan asks who made the bullet so Rosita says it was her. Negan thinks she is lying and tells Arat to kill someone of her choosing. Arat kills Olivia.

Rick shows up. negan tells him about Carl hiding in the truck and killing two Saviours and what Spencer tried to pull off.

Tara says she made the bullet, not Rosita, but Eugene steps up and admits the bullet is his work, not either of the women. Negan decides to take Eugene back to The Sanctuary since he has useful skills. Negan leaves as Rick looks shaken.

Spencer turns into a walker, so Rick puts him down, the last of the Monroe Family to die. Michonne tells Rick there are more Saviours than they ever thought or even guessed. They are not even close to Saviour numbers. Michonne is trying to inspire Rick to fight Negan and The Saviours.

There is another great Richonne kiss!

Hilltop Rick and Carl arrive with some of the other ASZ group. Rick tells Maggie he "couldn't hear her before" at the end of the premiere when she told him to rally the troops to fight, but he can hear her now.

Surprise! Daryl is at Hilltop too and he shares a touching hug with Rick. Everyone hugs and it feels like things are about to change for the better now. Rosita and Sasha acknowledge each other again.

Daryl gives Rick back his Python which he stole from the Saviours. Rick is more like his old self again with the weight of being under Negan's control hone in the moment. Everybody looks hopeful.

The whole group, including Jesus, head off towards the house where Gregory lives. Looks like Gregory's days of being in charge of Hilltop are numbered and ending.


credit:TWDZ

 

[averagejo]

I am guessing the shadowy figure is Dwight.

No, that would be a stick figure.

 

[pixletwin]

No, that would be a stick figure.

I don't follow you. Explain yo'self.

 

[averagejo]

I don't follow you. Explain yo'self.

Dwight=skinny=stick=stick figure.

I was trying to be funny ...haha.

 

[Deeznutz6]

This the season finale?

 

[pixletwin]

This the season finale?

Mid-season finale.

 

[Sweet Rabbit]

At least this episode is guaranteed to be good

 

[averagejo]

I just read this. It's from a trusted source:

Recently we have been hearing a lot of whispers about Sasha dying in the season 7 finale. We've been waiting for more confirmation before we shared what we heard. Well, by now I'm sure you've already seen the news about Sonequa's new lead role in Star Trek. This is enough for us to believe the information we received about her death is accurate.

We heard multiple versions of how her death supposedly goes down. However, there's a common theme of Sasha sacrificing herself in a failed attempt to take out Negan. Once we feel more confident in which version actually plays out on the show we will provide those details.


In addition, we have also heard rumors that Michael Cudlitz was sneaky sneaky and actually came back to film scenes for the finale. We think they might be some kind of dream sequence or flashback that has something to do with Sasha's death scene.

 

[SweetNeat]

Yay, I feel happy to find a spoiler & rumor discussion too. Now when waiting the new episodes it is fun to think what might come ahead.

Sasha thing sounds like something one could assume to happen. Still so sad. I like Sasha, even still she gets so little of screen time, she is cute and funny and would have deserved a bit more happiness before being killed. I wouldn´t have minded to see Rosita going rather than her, as Rosita isn´t even smiling a lot and I wish more of the "normal" people would stay alive, not only the soldier type ones.

If she has to go, I think some happy flashback memory with Abraham would be nice.