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Eh. Rape happens. It brings tension. I havent seen the film, so I cant comment.
It was just how the scene played out.
Spoiler:It happened so fast. First I though Mathis was dead, then Bond seems to use him as a shield. Then turns out Mathis was alive, though only for a few more minutes. Then there's the part about his name.
Though some things still are unclear to me (from CR). When Bond and Vesper are having dinner, he thinks Mathis told Le Chiffre about the bluffing? Then Le Chiffre goes on to say that Mathis is 'his' friend. So was that just Le Chiffre messing with Bond?
Spoiler:Le Chiffre was being honest. Remember "M" was willing to let him go after Vesper was found out and Bond said "Just because Vesper is guilty doesn't mean that Mathis is innocent. They allowed him "retire" because he was "innocent" isolated in a villa with just his lady companion to keep him company. The whole incident was to make the audience question if Mathis really was with Le Chiffre or not. Remember Mi-6 has no clue about anything going on with the "organization" this was another sign of that, that Mathis was dirty but even Mi-6 couldn't figure it out onoce Le Chiffre was dead. It also is why Bond went to him when "M" locked him out. Desperate times call for desperate measures and being in bed with a known traitor was the last straw. Ironic that the company that Mathis was helping in turn through their connections and establishments betrayed Mathis as well.
I went to the QoS Wiki page to see if I could find any answers on my other questions.
Spoiler:Vesper's former lover, Yusef, is a member of Quantum who specializes in seducing high-ranking women who have valuable connections, to get them to give up government assets as ransom for himself in fake kidnappings where he is supposedly held hostage. He is attempting to do the same with Canadian agent Corinne Venneau. But Bond tells Corinne about Vesper...
Was that explained in the movie and I just forgot? Though while thinking about the scene I did come to that conclusion.
Spoiler:This required one to have paid close attention to the end of Casino Royale. Vesper's lover Yusef got Vesper to give up secrets because of their relationship. He was in the process of doing the same to the Canadian government through Corinne. That is why Bond told her to tell the Canadian Government to check their rosters for a mole....indicating that Corinne was the mole. Also the showing of the necklace was supposed to be a glaring indication that a gift that was supposed to be an individual gift given only in love was used as another ploy to get in and to show how her emotions were used against her as she as well as Vesper took Yusef's feelings for genuine and didn't realize they were being used. Once they had what the needed and wanted to place a scapegoat out they "abducted" Yusef as a blackmailing tool even though he was working for them the entire time. When they realized he was found out, the wanted to keep their mole and planted a dead body. So that his current work with Corinne wouldn't be compromised. Corinne thanked Bond before leaving because he was giving her a chance to leave and not be implicated because he was giving her the ability to realize her mistake and move on. It was another sign of his forgiveness of Vesper because he didn't want to continue to demonize Vesper's past and her mistake.
Now, a Mr. White quote.
Spoiler:"You know, if she hadn't killed herself, we would've had you too." What exactly did he mean by that?
That's the one. Something about brutalizing a woman, then throwing her on a bed in an attempt to have sex with her while she is screaming and crying doesn't seem very PG-13 to me no matter whether there was penetration or not.
So wait, a woman nearly being raped is inappropriate for a PG-13 release, but not Bond violently killing several people isn't? Hmm...
Liked it... didn't love it.
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