HT original Predator- photo thread

[GDZILLA95]

dedguy,
I like your mods and I think you are right about the different paint apps on the
armor. I really like the camo look.

 

[laudanum09]

Seen the movie a billion times and I've never noticed the camo on the armor. It does seem like different aesthetic choices for different scenes/settings.

 

[Furious1]

I posed my Pred like the SS maquette, and the results are pretty good. I actually looks a little more like the pose in person, it was hard to convey it with my crappy photos. Anyway, here is a look.

 

[915stag51]

Who has these in stock? I want one....

 

[8th wonder]

=Furious1;1814867]I posed my Pred like the SS maquette, and the results are pretty good. I actually looks a little more like the pose in person, it was hard to convey it with my crappy photos. Anyway, here is a look.

Very cool pose and pictures.

 

[dedguy]

GDZILLA95: I too dig the camo look but I don't own an airbrush and I think that's the only way you'd do it right. I'd love to see someone try to tackle it though. From pics it seems like the camo is more extreme the lower on the body with the helmet being pretty much just silver with some slight brown touches.

Furious1: I think the Hot Toys Preds in general look best in a semi crouch. I think that's especially true of the Pred1 which on film is pretty much always crouching when you see him in full body shots. I have mine posed similarly to some screencaps I have of suit tests from the DVD
https://dedguy.net/junk/Pred1.png

 

[Nacho]

Love this figure!!!

 

[playafree]

Looks like 2 straps and a belt loop to me. And the bullet holes in the mask are pretty spot on, I didn't realise till I flicked through my Stan Winston book when doing my review. They were much more pronounced than I remembered!

It's worth picking up-

man, i gotta get that book... looks like ebay has the best deal

 

[gdb]

Weirdly both in screencaps and on actual screen used props the armor both appears to be just silver with black airbrushing as well as a sort of mottled jungle camo.

Clearly appears camo:
https://dedguy.net/junk/Predator_10.jpg
https://dedguy.net/junk/Predator_11.jpg
https://dedguy.net/junk/PDVD_012.jpg


Clearly silver:
https://dedguy.net/junk/SteveWang_predgroupsmall.jpg
https://dedguy.net/junk/Predator_83.jpg
https://dedguy.net/junk/SteveWang_paintingpredatorsmall.jpg
https://dedguy.net/junk/p1.jpg
https://dedguy.net/junk/P1_37261_2.jpg

I'd say that the mottled green/brown look it just the silver reflecting the surroundings but in several pics that doesn't look likley. The foam latex of the suit could possibly have picked up colors from the dirty and what not while filming but that also seems unlikely. The only thing that makes sense at all is that they simply painted the suit differently at different times.

I had never noticed the camo before...

I think you have to be right that they did it on purpose. I wonder if the filmmakers wanted the camo to be a dramatic device as if to indicate that we were seeing something that was cloaked, if you know what I mean, or if it was more because they had a problem with the harshness of the black and silver in some scenes, or maybe it was supposed to be a transitional stage in the cloaking...? Curious.

 

[SilentSurfer]

Clearly silver:
https://dedguy.net/junk/SteveWang_predgroupsmall.jpg
https://dedguy.net/junk/Predator_83.jpg
https://dedguy.net/junk/SteveWang_paintingpredatorsmall.jpg
https://dedguy.net/junk/p1.jpg
https://dedguy.net/junk/P1_37261_2.jpg

I'd say that the mottled green/brown look it just the silver reflecting the surroundings but in several pics that doesn't look likley. The foam latex of the suit could possibly have picked up colors from the dirty and what not while filming but that also seems unlikely. The only thing that makes sense at all is that they simply painted the suit differently at different times.

Even in your pics for silver, I still see camo paint on the body armor. The helmet is a dirty silver, but that is only the helmet. It may not always be obvious because your eyes want to see metal, but his armor is all camo tones over a metallic undertone, even in those pics, except the last one which may or may not be from the movie since the armor was all sculpted onto the suit as one piece for Predator 1 and even P2. If it were authentic to the movie suit, it may just be unfinished. Look carefully at the first four pics, and you can tell it's still camo painted.

And I do have an airbrush, and as soon as I knock some other projects out of the way, I'll be camoflauging my Pred.

BTW, I just got Sideshow 25 day processing notice for the regular Pred release from them. One will be permanent mask off display (and maybe shoulder cannon off as well), and the other will replace my P2 body and P2 Elder torso armor.

 

[dedguy]

I still say it's silver in most scenes there might be some mottling but it looks mainly silver to me. It's so hard to tell with color, especially on film. There's so much that can drastically alter the appearance of things particularly lghting and film processing. I know they pushed a lot of the film towards green since they where filming in a deciduous jungle during autum by mistake and so much of the jungle was brown. I wouldn't trust the colors in a lot of the film shots.

I think gdb might be on to something with the heavy camo being used for uncloaking scenes. Some of the "camo" pics there's no silver at all on the body. It's totally green and brown.

Even thought the lighting is all yellow, if you look at that picture of the pouch which is for sure the actual screen used suit (or more accurately one of) at Winston Studios it looks pretty evenly silver.

 

[SilentSurfer]

There clearly seems to be inconsistancy with the armor color, so I guess it's really up to preference in the end. I like the camo look as though it is for aiding in hiding even during cloak failure, but not one toy or replica yet has depicted it as anything other than silver all over.

Well, I'll be doing the camo look, so we'll all see soon enough how it looks.

If anybody has anymore pics of the armor showing a camo coloring, please post them. I'm going to need them. And thanks in advance.

 

[dedguy]

I too also really dig the camo look but I'm not going to be attempting it myself anytime soon. I do really want to get an airbrush though. For now I just need to justify the all silver armor

Check out these two threads on Hunter's Lair. They aren't as complete as they claim (they don't have any caps of the close up of his legs right before he takes the mask off) for film screencaps but there's a lot of good stuff in there.

https://www.thehunterslair.com/index.php?showtopic=4824

https://www.thehunterslair.com/index.php?showtopic=11858

 

[The Craw]

just got my predator exclusive from SS. here's a couple pics. nothing special. will futz with him more later.

 

[SilentSurfer]

Those are some amazing links, dedguy. That should be enough to get started. The camo seems pretty random. I don't even think I'll need an airbrush for it, just some washes over the silver will probably give the desired effect.

 

[dedguy]

Be sure to post in progress pics if you can. I may try it if I think I can do what you've done.

 

[gdb]

I too also really dig the camo look but I'm not going to be attempting it myself anytime soon. I do really want to get an airbrush though. For now I just need to justify the all silver armor

Check out these two threads on Hunter's Lair. They aren't as complete as they claim (they don't have any caps of the close up of his legs right before he takes the mask off) for film screencaps but there's a lot of good stuff in there.

https://www.thehunterslair.com/index.php?showtopic=4824

https://www.thehunterslair.com/index.php?showtopic=11858

Thanks for the links. The camo thing is goddamn curious... I can't believe I missed that all these years. Just after high school I painted up a couple of those old garage kits of the Predator and sold them (which was really hard before the internet, btw) and none of the materials I got as reference showed the camo. I must have relied too heavily on photos from the prop shop and the Dark Horse comic and not enough from photos from the set or film stills.

It brings to mind something FigureMaster Les posted a couple years ago here...

The Hot Toys Pred 2 does look a but lobsterish.
But, as you can see from these frames, he does have whites, although they are bloodshot...

And, just for your info...

I met Steve Wang, co-designer and chief costume painter for both P1&2, in 1995, at a model show, and he said that the Predator 2 paint design is based on fire. As if HE is the fire, and his armor is all burnt metal and burnt copper.

As for the P1...he was based on a banana. Yep. Something about it being tropical. Hey, he said it! Brown spots and all! Made sense to me!

Anyway, after I get mine, I will probably repaint him from head to toe. If he needs it.

 

[Sniper33]

my waitlist EX Pred comes on friday, assuming someone is home to sign for it that is.

 

[GrayWolf87]

My Ex Pred arrived this morning. Its so awesome, 6 long months of waiting and does not dissapoint. Heres a pic took of it with dog alien. Appologies since not very good with camera. Its so awesome though! first pred as well...

 

[SilentSurfer]

Wow, it's only been six months! Seems like it was a year, but I guess it wasn't at Comic Con was it. That was the Lost.