Yeah, that's what I'm gonna do too. My ideal Wolverine would be 70's Logan, that's the best Jackman has looked as the character. Unfortunately they haven't announced one yet.
It is indeed objective. The bloated Hot Toys sculpt looks even less like Jackman though. It looks more like George Michael.
As much as the Modern Life may still be "off", at least he reads more like Jackman on my detolf now (which is what matters to me). As someone who sculpts a lot (both digitally and in real life) it's not all about exact measurements but also about capturing the character/charicature. In my opinion the Moden Life sculpt does a much greater job at doing just that. As an added bonus, it definitely is in better proportion to the MMS220 body than the HT sculpt.
You are correct, measurements are not everything. I sculpt as well. But the only time they do really matter is when you are trying to exactly replicate something. Then they do matter. A lot. It's the only way to tell if you are getting it exact. When your trying to create a non real character, say a comic character or non specific animal or what not, then your own imagination and style are needed, but when you are trying to exactly replicate a real life item or person then things are a lot more mathematical and numerical.
You may not like the width or size does not mean it's not accurate. Lol you may like it more. But it's not more authentic.
The measurements on the HT sculpt are even worse than the ML one. Especially in sideview. It quite possibly is one of Hot Toys' worst sculpts (in terms of actor likeness), it really is only slightly better than their Indy DX05 abomination.
I can definitely tell you that the majority of HT's proportions and measurements are far less than authentic. That and it seems to have warped even more during the casting and molding process. Though ML's product is not perfect (at all), it seems to get a lot more features correctly than HT's counterpart. The nose and upper lip are spot on, the wrinkles on the brow are far more pronounced than on the soft(er) HT sculpt. The overall cheekbones are not as puffy as HT's...etc. Anatomically, the skull and musculature is much closer to Hugh than what HT produced.
It is more authentic. I am willing to bet that if you took both headsculpts and showed them to strangers, that more people would see the Hugh in the Modern Life sculpt than the Hot Toys sculpt.
You don't need any precise tools to see how off the HT sculpt is. Look man, if the HT sculpt would really top the ML sculpt, then why do so many others have issues with it?I'd take that bet. In fact I just tried it. Of the seven people I showed it to all thought the HT sculpt was correct. Including my both my facial detection program i have and my apple photo organization program(can't recall the name of it right now for the life of me). So that's 8 real people including me, and two computer programs.
What exactly are you using to judge these figures (proportions) being off? I have compared them to a life cast of Hugh taken just before filming for The Wolverine started. They where given out to a few companies/people to work up some costume ideas for upcoming projects. The hot toys one is not perfect. Though is is A LOT closer to the real guy. In every angle. I used a proportional caliper that has a 1/6 conversion (and 1/2 and 1/1 and 1/3 and 1/8 and 1/12 and 1/4) to check the eye offset, the bridge of the nose, the distance between tip of the nose and bottom of nose, nostril width, forehead size, chin, eyebrow ridge, and twenty other areas. On two the ML sculpt was closer then the HT. 2 out of 27(well thirty actually). That includes head width total and I also checked nose slope which didn't use my caliper).
Unless you have a life cast or full size 3d scan there's no way you could check the numbers. A photo wouldn't do it. Unless you knew a bunch of stuff (lens used, camera used and a dozen other things) a photo wouldn't be accurate. Even if you blew it up to actual size.
Look, if you like the ml head better that's great. But in almost every muesurment (actual muesurment not opinion) the HT version is more accurate.
My biggest issue with it is the nose.
You don't need any precise tools to see how off the HT sculpt is. Look man, if the HT sculpt would really top the ML sculpt, then why do so many others have issues with it?
Also, it's "measurements" not muesurment". Btw do you have pics of that lifecast? The fact that you used calipers is pointless, like you said, you don't know the lense type/mm they used in the shot. So not sure why you decide to put so much merit behind it.
Also, I am sure you are completely right and that I am wrong. Even though I have spent years sculpting from multiple reference photos, have worked on VFX for films and games, and sculpt in both 3D and with real clay, none of that matters...thanks for the eye opener. This HT piece is, in fact, an optical illusion. It's so good that it looks bad...like a really extreme version of the uncanny valley.
I am glad you love it It's authentic
Sculpt off! Sculpt off!The ML one looks too pointy to me. It seems like all his features are in the center of the face, in my opinion. I prefer the HT one.
But as Jake said, a sculpt-off is in order. Whoever wins gets to supply us with 100% accurate casts.
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