jye4ever
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If you’re already a fan of the movie it’s definately worth a read.
If not then these are not the paragraphs you’re looking for.
If not then these are not the paragraphs you’re looking for.
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Star Wars: The Last Jedi (2)
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Wait so there is only one thing you didn't agree with in that fluff piece... Well then you are truly lost lol. I just hope it was the part where they say the lightsaber throne room battle is the best in the series because that statement was laughable.
Again, Luke is telling Kylo that his violent actions are futile. Violence escalates conflict, and never ends it (according to Luke's beliefs, not mine). From Luke's perspective, the Rebellion are engaging in self-preservation. Luke's pacifism is not a condemnation of self-defense. He's not telling everyone that they have an obligation to martyr themselves. Rather, he's arguing that self-defense is part of an endless cycle of violence, and that somehow, you have to break the cycle non-violently. Luke also believes that everyone should be able to access the force. He never draws a connection between these two things, but I imagine this is what Johnson was setting up, hence Broom Boy at the end of the film? It's hard to say.
It's a ludicrous philosophy. I agree that flowers and hugs won't defeat malevolence. I won't talk about politics, because this board seeks to avoid it. However, it's fair to say that there's an ideology at play here, with a distorted view of reality.
Spaz is back?
I'm assuming you're referring to an avatar, and not calling me a Spaz? No, I signed up for the customs section, that died after I put in two orders...
jye4ever
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Like I said not meant for the haters who will instantly just call it a fluff piece so bravo on being so predictable bravomite
I read the article. I agree that this describes Rian Johnson's intentions in making TLJ:
"By fighting each other endlessly the various Rebels and the recursive Empires only enrich the greedy greys, and only by removing themselves from the fight can this truly be finished. Only by turning towards love can the Galaxy finally achieve Star Peace. Because as long as someone is willing to fight what they hate, there will be profiteers ready to make things worse. But once they turn to saving what they love… the possibilities are endless."
Johnson is obviously trying to change Star Wars into a franchise where violence isn't glorified. He wants "Star Peace". The problem is... I don't.
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Sounds a lot like ESB.
Spaz is back?
The thought definitely crossed my mind.
There are people on a newly created board filled with SSF members, that have been complaining about you and others in this section. I assume this is the sort of thing they're referring to? Lemme guess... You guys chase people out when they don't like a movie you're into, then you proclaim that anyone new who disagrees with you is someone you previously humiliated? That's very tribal of you.
There are a couple of people on here who immediately get condescending and hostile, yourself included, when people disagree with you. It's sad.
Mods need to do something about the demeanor of people in this section. When having a critical discussion doesn't work out for you, you throw a tantrum. It's costing the site owner money, from the looks of it.
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I don't recall ever humiliating Spaz but your posting style is definitely similar.
EDIT: Dang it Junkion, lol.
EDIT: Dang it Junkion, lol.
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I thought that moght be Spazz. Now I’m positive.
jye4ever
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Another question is how interesting is a peaceful force for movie goers?
I enjoyed TLJ alot, but with then attempting an ET with Solo, removing guns from the picture, what can the protagonists do to fight the good fight?
Mind gamez? Maybe?
It is called Star Wars, and perhaps thats going to be an issue going forward....
I understand Disneys reaction , attempting to make films that do bot glorify violence if thats the case, perhaps even just showing a hero who can win without killing, especially in the wake of all the shooting the past decade...
But the problem isnt film, or books, or any media.....it mental health care and the lack of any real attempt to help disturbed people beyond “take this pill”
Misguided attempts at taking drama out of a dramatic art form, will not solve social problems....neither will adding gay or racially diverse characters. I understand they are trying, but no film or art form will change people ....
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I enjoyed TLJ alot, but with then attempting an ET with Solo, removing guns from the picture, what can the protagonists do to fight the good fight?
Mind gamez? Maybe?
It is called Star Wars, and perhaps thats going to be an issue going forward....
I understand Disneys reaction , attempting to make films that do bot glorify violence if thats the case, perhaps even just showing a hero who can win without killing, especially in the wake of all the shooting the past decade...
But the problem isnt film, or books, or any media.....it mental health care and the lack of any real attempt to help disturbed people beyond “take this pill”
Misguided attempts at taking drama out of a dramatic art form, will not solve social problems....neither will adding gay or racially diverse characters. I understand they are trying, but no film or art form will change people ....
Sent from the inside of a giant slug in outer space.....
The reality is, that Johnson's plans will likely be abandoned. There's no way they'll be removing guns, light-saber battles and space shoot-outs from Star Wars. That would end the franchise. Johnson's plan was likely to create a tone, where there was remorse for violence and an attempt to end conflict by some sort of peace process that fails and evolves. It likely would have had to do with a Force wielding masses who argue about how to deal with tyranny in light of their new found power, and deteriorate into some sort of Game of Thrones nonsense.
Thanks to Solo bombing, I'm sure they'll change direction. My guess is, they'll use the out created by Star Wars Rebels to alter the timeline, and pull Vader through some sort of wormhole to reset everything.
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I wouldn't worry too much about Star Wars losing violent conflict as a means of generating drama. The Last Jedi had the following elements:
* Poe and Paige effectively killed what was likely hundreds (maybe thousands?) serving on the massive Dreadnought.
* The Resistance took down First Order fighter craft in the lead-up to that.
* Holdo rammed a ship through a fleet of Star Destroyers (no way did everyone get shuttled out of those).
* Rey was slicing up Praetorean Guards with Kylo. She also shot down plenty of TIE Fighters on Crait.
* Heck, even BB8 was taking an AT-ST for a joy ride and mowing down stormtroopers.
The body count was fairly high. And that's just by the good guys!
I haven't seen Solo yet, so I can't speak for the latest entry, but I don't think there will be a major change in the SW status quo. Star Wars is grandfathered in. 
Personal violence is much worse in movies than genocide.
Not many kids get the significance of destroying the entire planet of Alderaan. But they immediately understand Luke getting just one hand chopped off.
Not many kids get the significance of destroying the entire planet of Alderaan. But they immediately understand Luke getting just one hand chopped off.
I thought that moght be Spazz. Now I’m positive.
Looks like he's back simply to make the same old speeches (once again stating wild guesses/assumptions as fact) and not actually discuss anything.
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