The Blu-Ray Upcoming, News & Info Thread

[Khev]

Nice write-up sir!

 

[jye4ever]

Grazie!
I tried to keep it simple, don't even.....EVEN.....get me started on the competing HDR standards!

I hate to say it but TFA is actually smack in the middle of that battle!

Yes, TFA 4K/HDR WILL NOT output HDR on some of the 2016 tv's, depending which side of the battle you choose when you make your purchase.

They are trying to resolve this but holy crap is it confusing to grasp!

 

[Ondi]

Whoah great write up Jye. Thanks for that bro

 

[KitFisto]

4K is absolutely relevant.......but only above 80", some even say 90". I play it safe and always say 80" but 90" is about right, split the difference and make it 85".


8K is just obnoxious now.


Word is that 8K with 8K material looks like 3D without the need for glasses!


Anyways, lets get back down to earth here shall we.


Onto scanning masters. Always go big, 4K/8K, whatever....spend the money and future proof that **** yo!


Onto the really important (good) stuff now, HDR! Yeah baby, now we're talking!


The HDR that we're getting will work alongside Wide Color Gamut and 10 bit color depth, technology living together for mutual advantage.


HDR are your absolutes khev.


Absolute contrast, absolute blacks, absolute whites, absolute colors, absolute depth!


While the new 4K/HDR standards coming out very soon for home media will not output the super max Rec 2020 12 bit standard, they are still damn impressive nonetheless!


What we have now in our homes (even with 1st gen 4K) with non HDR content is 8 bit 16.7 million colors (XVYCC "Deep Color" (never utilized) Rec 709, you know...the ole 256x256x256. HDR was non existent within these specs, light output was just not powerful enough ontop of other limitations.


We will now be in the middle at 10 bit color depth aka DCI P3 standard.


The great thing is that DCI P3 color is what we see in the theater now!


We are a ways off from 12 bit content (Rec 2020), sure the studios have it now but they first need to milk 10 bit content just like they did with bluray 8 bit, greedy ass ****s that they are!


People will NOW truly notice a difference with HDR at home that wasn't noticeable when they did the jump to just 4K with no HDR.


Bottom line:


I would absolutely take a 1080p video with proper 10 bit HDR/WCG applied over a 4K video with no HDR/WCG.


Better Pixels > More Pixels.


But that's what so great about it, we won't have to settle for 1080p HDR because we're getting 4K HDR!


Bring on the Quantum Dot LED and OLED HDR displays boys, we're going deep!


This is what blew you away khev, the HDR, not the 2K or 4K!


Bravo!

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Whew......

I like TV.

 

[jye4ever]

Whoah great write up Jye. Thanks for that bro

I like TV.

Thank You!

Busted my ass calibrating this one.

This is only 1080p!

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[The Ween]

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[Wor-Gar]

4K is absolutely relevant.......but only above 80", some even say 90". I play it safe and always say 80" but 90" is about right, split the difference and make it 85".


8K is just obnoxious now.


Word is that 8K with 8K material looks like 3D without the need for glasses!


Anyways, lets get back down to earth here shall we.


Onto scanning masters. Always go big, 4K/8K, whatever....spend the money and future proof that **** yo!


Onto the really important (good) stuff now, HDR! Yeah baby, now we're talking!


The HDR that we're getting will work alongside Wide Color Gamut and 10 bit color depth, technology living together for mutual advantage.


HDR are your absolutes khev.


Absolute contrast, absolute blacks, absolute whites, absolute colors, absolute depth!


While the new 4K/HDR standards coming out very soon for home media will not output the super max Rec 2020 12 bit standard, they are still damn impressive nonetheless!


What we have now in our homes (even with 1st gen 4K) with non HDR content is 8 bit 16.7 million colors (XVYCC "Deep Color" (never utilized) Rec 709, you know...the ole green256xblue256xred256 formula. HDR was non existent within these specs, light output was just not powerful enough ontop of other limitations.


We will now be in the middle at 10 bit color depth aka DCI P3 standard.


The great thing is that DCI P3 color is what we see in the theater now!


We are a ways off from 12 bit content (Rec 2020), sure the studios have it now but they first need to milk 10 bit content just like they did with bluray 8 bit, greedy ass ****s that they are!


People will NOW truly notice a difference with HDR at home that wasn't noticeable when they did the jump to just 4K with no HDR.


Bottom line:


I would absolutely take a 1080p video with proper 10 bit HDR/WCG applied over a 4K video with no HDR/WCG.


Better Pixels > More Pixels.


But that's what so great about it, we won't have to settle for 1080p HDR because we're getting 4K HDR!


Bring on the Quantum Dot LED and OLED HDR displays boys, we're going deep!


This is what blew you away khev, the HDR, not the 2K or 4K!


Bravo!

WHAT!!!? So is Blu Ray 3D still good?

 

[jye4ever]

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WHAT!!!? So is Blu Ray 3D still good?

For you and me it is!

But unfortunately 3D is NOT part of the new 4K/HDR initiative.

3D was replacd by HDR! (for real though).

But....but.....no worries, your 3D 1080p movies will still work just fine on the 2016 4K/HDR tv's, as long as you buy one that outputs 3D, although that is getting harder to find.

You just won't find 4K/HDR/3D movies, too late to change that although some are still holding out for a change of heart from the bluray consortium.

Technical difficulties compounded by a lack of interest.

2 things are happening behind the scenes.

They are waiting on glasses free 3D tv's to push 3D back to the limelight, within the next 3-5 years.

VR is being closely watched.

 

[rushmore223]

For you and me it is!

But unfortunately 3D is NOT part of the new 4K/HDR initiative.

3D was replacd by HDR! (for real though).

But....but.....no worries, your 3D 1080p movies will still work just fine on the 2016 4K/HDR tv's, as long as you buy one that outputs 3D, although that is getting harder to find.

You just won't find 4K/HDR/3D movies, too late to change that although some are still holding out for a change of heart from the bluray consortium.

Technical difficulties compounded by a lack of interest.

2 things are happening behind the scenes.

They are waiting on glasses free 3D tv's to push 3D back to the limelight, within the next 3-5 years.

VR is being closely watched.

Let me guess... Current 3D blurays won't work with the eventual glasses free 3D sets. You've sold me on HDR.

 

[The Ween]

jye is going to go with me when I get a new TV.

 

[jye4ever]

Let me guess... Current 3D blurays won't work with the eventual glasses free 3D sets. You've sold me on HDR.

That is the big unknown, although word from within the industry is that our current 3D blurays will work just fine.

Fingers crossed. X

I'm happy that you're sold on HDR, we're talking about billions of colors here, no longer 16.7 million.

jye is going to go with me when I get a new TV.

I got your back Ween.

and Wor-Gar's and khev's.

Avatar drew the line at the start of the 3D wars between active and passive 3D.

Now it's TFA time to draw the line for the HDR wars!

Can't make this **** up, can't they just get along and make it easy for the consumer just this once!

Betamax/VHS
Laserdisc/DVD
HD-DVD/Blu-ray
Active 3D/Passive 3D
DolbyVisionHDR/HDR10

Btw, TFA was made with Dolby Vision HDR which means if you buy any Samsung HDR tv (HDR10) it won't support TFA's HDR!

WTF!

Bunch of children I swear!

 

[Ondi]

Ooooow arrrrrgh these TV decisions will be the death of me...............Jye???

 

[jye4ever]

You should see Wor-Gar's bad knees.

 

[Wor-Gar]

Ohhhhhhh..... this is already killing me....

HDR sounds awesome... but now I got to rebuy Jaws and Star Wars and Raiders and LOTR and Matrix and Terminator and Alien and Predator and Die Hard and all those ****ing Bonds and Fury Road and .....

 

[Ondi]

You should see Wor-Gar's bad knees.

I did!! His right knee didn't look too happy at all

 

[jye4ever]

Ohhhhhhh..... this is already killing me....

HDR sounds awesome... but now I got to rebuy Jaws and Star Wars and Raiders and LOTR and Matrix and Terminator and Alien and Predator and Die Hard and all those ****ing Bonds and Fury Road and .....

LOL

Ummmmmm

YES, we do!

I did!! His right knee didn't look too happy at all

LOL

 

[rushmore223]

If your a Prime member, Amazon has The Martian Blu for $15, if you purchase a select Blu first (inexpensive movies like Predator 3d, Predator triple pack, terminator, planet of the apes, etc...) you will get a $5 code that can be applied to the purchase of The Martian, making the final cost $10.

I already preordered the 4k edition of The Martian, but I am very tempted by this deal.

 

[jimjimmyjones85]

Damn, I;m going to need a new receiver

 

[The Ween]

I tried twice to post a link to Amazon's new 4K preorders but it keeps messing up the link.

 

[IronFingaz]

I've started looking for a new TV (it's been two long years since i last upgraded ) and Sony's new XD93 looks intriguing. Is a 55" TV a bit too big if you sit 10 feet from the screen?