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A few questions

Did David really ask the engineer what weyland was saying?
He seemed to be ok till David was speaking. David showed he was willing to sacrifice certain crew members to see what effects the black goo would have. Maybe he had his own questions to ask.

In the hologram recordings what were the engineers running from?

The jockey in the chair in alien is completely different to the one in this film right? It's another planet too isn't it? Must be several attempts to destroy earth or another planet.

There were 5(?) Planets on the star map, what do you think is on the other planets?

Vickers will still be alive for prometheus 2 methinks.

Once upon a time engineers and humans were ok with each other. Could it be that we turned on them in the same way the xenomorphs turned on them/us their creator?

Maybe the engineers knew that no mortal could know their language and realized that David was artificial and blew a fuse?

There is talk about Holloway's thesis being wrong.
Maybe they ended up in the wrong place?

Just thinking out Lloryd here folks!

Left the cinema feeling neither disappointed or satisfied but after thinking about the film more and more I realized how much i think it is great!
 
No, it's not the same ship, jockey, or planet. We still have no idea what happened to the derelict in Alien.

We don't know what the Engineers were running from in the hologram..which is great. It adds that fear, mystery and speculation. Which is what the movie was supposed to have.
 
Niceman said:
LOST's ending was the most disrespectful of its fans ending I've ever seen. It didn't answer any of the important questions. Basically, it said all that didn't matter, just the people, the characters. I wasn't watching that show for the characters. For me it was a complete failure.

Dollhouse was brilliant. Aliens 4... well, it was in Joss's youth...
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I watched this show for the characters and it was a complete win for me. I loved the way it ended and could come up with my own explanations.
 
Lar'ja Thwei said:
He didn't turn into zombie. And the Deacon looks different compared to the traditional aliens because he's not a traditional alien. Use your imagination for the rest.
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I don't agree with Lar'ja that often but he's completely right on this. Why do you need everything completely explained? Use that noggin' of yours and figure some things out on your own.
 
nothingface35 said:
I watched this show for the characters and it was a complete win for me. I loved the way it ended and could come up with my own explanations.
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Glad someone enjoyed it. I didn't. Also, now that I know there was never a plan and things weren't explained, I never have to rewatch the show.
 
The engineers created the Aliens as a weapon and/or because they could, they created humans because they could. they're not called engineers for nothing. As Shaw questions at the end why do/did they want to destroy humans? The sequel may delve into this.
 
Intentional plot holes

Admittedly, I was bummed when i saw the film. Seemingly disjointed storytelling. But since then, I've realized there are actually two scenarios. The second is fairly mind blowing:

1. Ridley was given a terrible script and did and equally bad job directing.

2. The glaring plot holes were intentional. Some answers were made murky on purpose. Some questions would require research on the viewers part. Something "built in" to create ongoing internet buzz, speculation, and social media chatter.

If this is the case, it's pretty ground breaking.

It demands the viewer to continue to interact with a film long after leaving the theater. The Weyland site seems to support this. It's fairly deep, and helps add detail to a "world" the studio is creating.

This might be the first film that requires more than an admission to get the whole story. You need to seek out the rest in a web 2.0/3.0 environment.

Real back and forth interaction with a film, after the theater. An approach that almost forces fans to debate with each other after viewing. Interesting idea.

Time will tell I suppose.
 
Re: Intentional plot holes

dmpsk8 said:
Admittedly, I was bummed when i saw the film. Seemingly disjointed storytelling. But since then, I've realized there are actually two scenarios. The second is fairly mind blowing:

1. Ridley was given a terrible script and did and equally bad job directing.

2. The glaring plot holes were intentional. Some answers were made murky on purpose. Some questions would require research on the viewers part. Something "built in" to create ongoing internet buzz, speculation, and social media chatter.

If this is the case, it's pretty ground breaking.

It demands the viewer to continue to interact with a film long after leaving the theater. The Weyland site seems to support this. It's fairly deep, and helps add detail to a "world" the studio is creating.

This might be the first film that requires more than an admission to get the whole story. You need to seek out the rest in a web 2.0/3.0 environment.

Real back and forth interaction with a film, after the theater. An approach that almost forces fans to debate with each other after viewing. Interesting idea.

Time will tell I suppose.
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I'm not aware of there being any plot holes. Unanswered questions? Sure. But you'll have to point out the "plot holes" for me. The story made very clear sense to me.
 
Re: Intentional plot holes

Niceman said:
I'm not aware of there being any plot holes. Unanswered questions? Sure. But you'll have to point out the "plot holes" for me. The story made very clear sense to me.
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I agree. A plot hole is a contradiction in logic of the plot or inconsistency...therefore a hole or an anomaly that had no substantive element...

A question or enigma is a plot device that is raised in order to bring on movement in a plot....it drives the story, or rather drives the curiosities of the viewer, or experiencer...

I don't see any serious plot holes in this film...differences and ironies, but not inconsistencies within its own universe.
 
SilentSurfer said:
Check this out. I had not idea the Engineer design was so amazing. You really can't appreciate it on screen.

https://www.facebook.com/?ref=tn_tnmn#!/media/set/?set=a.10150887057811376.419643.551306375&type=3
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When he stood up after David woke him, I was smiling ear to ear.:D
The suit is very Gigeresque.
That's why the first thing I want is an engineer maquette. If ssc makes one in 1/4 I'll be happy but, I'd prefer something in 1/3rd scale and silicone or intrinsic resin.
 
Re: Intentional plot holes

demorathis said:
I agree. A plot hole is a contradiction in logic of the plot or inconsistency...therefore a hole or an anomaly that had no substantive element...

A question or enigma is a plot device that is raised in order to bring on movement in a plot....it drives the story, or rather drives the curiosities of the viewer, or experiencer...

I don't see any serious plot holes in this film...differences and ironies, but not inconsistencies within its own universe.
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To each his own. Personally I think your stretching. To an average viewer, there are areas of the story that connect quite poorly. And not in a good or curious way.

I'm not interested in debating this point by point by point. Let's just agree to disagree.
 
Re: Intentional plot holes

No problem -- I respect that we all have differeing opinions. In fact, I quite like the two scenarios you speculate on. The marketing is meant to be viral and bring us further into the world of Prometheus to make it as "real" as possible...

But there is a FACT that had to be pointed out (and this is not an opinion):
the definition of a "Plot Hole" as "inconsistency or contradiction" in the fictional world of the story. Something that doesn't hold credibility.
A plot hole is not defined as the "question" in the viewer's mind--
The "Question" is a different and intentional plot devise, a very specific animal entirely,
(the counterpart plot device being one of Foreshadowing).

BUT...

If the problem for some is story connectivity or disjointedness, this may be a due to unfavorable story structure, where perhaps scenes should be added or removed to make the flow easier to digest.
Perhaps scenes that further explain what has happened OR scenes that foreshadow a future event to make it credible,
and not contrived or too convenient,
just to wrap up.



(I'm simply speculating what folks perhaps didn't get out of Prometheus. I'm not saying people shouldn't feel the way they do when they experience the film. Everyone will experience it differently based on what they gathered from the film, expectation or lack thereof, attention, the number of times they've watched it, and bias -- but there are other factors -- sometimes just a horribly edited film will kill it, or in terms of Star Wars prequesls horrible dialogue and situations (but structually those are sound)...as we've seen on the boards the choice of actors, writers, or something else just killed it for others...
 
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Thanks for the link.
Love this pic.

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