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Tosh said:
Yeah, its "obnoxious whining" when people here point out the flaws the GT pre order prototype literally has.
No one said that anyone has to agree or that people buying this are stupid or whatever. Its still just people pointing out the flaws.
But its totally okay to mock these people just because "yeah but i dont care if its accurate". "lol these nerds"

Thats a way better discussion level, right? Great attitude. Thumbs up.
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If you want an actual, good faith argument to your suggestion that the flaws you see are "literally" there, I completely disagree with the claim. The changes you made didn't increase the likeness, they reduced it.

Square Enix has a very idealized approach to character design, and in the classic Loomis idealized face guidelines, the outer corners of the mouth directly align with the inner edges of the irises. You'll find this is quite true of almost every character model Square Enix has made in the last decade, and it is absolutely true of Tifa's in-game model. Your edit, by contrast, squishing in the lips without, in turn, reducing the gap between the eyes, breaks this. I'm not sure what it is about the GT sculpt that makes you think the lips are too wide, but I don't see it myself. Her upper lip is also much thinner than you seem to remember. The overall impression your edit gives is that's she doing the duckface pout.

Your take on her eyebrows, as well, completely ignores the corner of the eyebrow that's formed based on the anatomy of the underlying skull; the peak and bend at the tail is the eyebrow wrapping around the head, transitioning from the front of the skull to the side of it. This natural peak is extremely evident on Tifa's in-game model, and you've completely erased it to draw a straight line that doesn't conform to the actual shape of the head, because you've interpreted this natural foundational bend as an "angry" expression, when it's simply her resting browline.

FWIW, it's almost a guarantee they ripped the model directly from the game and all these differences you're seeing is purely because the paintjob isn't an exact perfect match for in-game textures, and also a plastic copy of the head can never have the game's subsurface scattering.
 
Mazukou said:
Toymarks
has them also for preorder. it's cheaper when the price converted in USD no? From what i see full payment goes RM1,145.00 or roughly 246.24.. Not sure if understand the conversion enough tho haha cause we have a diff currency here and im hoping we get it way cheaper that the west has em for preorder.
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Out of curiosity where you do you see USD246 or RM1145?
I see everywhere selling around USD350+-
 
vaanrose said:
If you want an actual, good faith argument to your suggestion that the flaws you see are "literally" there, I completely disagree with the claim. The changes you made didn't increase the likeness, they reduced it.

Square Enix has a very idealized approach to character design, and in the classic Loomis idealized face guidelines, the outer corners of the mouth directly align with the inner edges of the irises. You'll find this is quite true of almost every character model Square Enix has made in the last decade, and it is absolutely true of Tifa's in-game model. Your edit, by contrast, squishing in the lips without, in turn, reducing the gap between the eyes, breaks this. I'm not sure what it is about the GT sculpt that makes you think the lips are too wide, but I don't see it myself. Her upper lip is also much thinner than you seem to remember. The overall impression your edit gives is that's she doing the duckface pout.

Your take on her eyebrows, as well, completely ignores the corner of the eyebrow that's formed based on the anatomy of the underlying skull; the peak and bend at the tail is the eyebrow wrapping around the head, transitioning from the front of the skull to the side of it. This natural peak is extremely evident on Tifa's in-game model, and you've completely erased it to draw a straight line that doesn't conform to the actual shape of the head, because you've interpreted this natural foundational bend as an "angry" expression, when it's simply her resting browline.

FWIW, it's almost a guarantee they ripped the model directly from the game and all these differences you're seeing is purely because the paintjob isn't an exact perfect match for in-game textures, and also a plastic copy of the head can never have the game's subsurface scattering.
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Thank you for a actual real answer,
but how do you explain this:
All of these screens below are literally screenshots from the game, different scenarios with slightly different facial expressions.
Her eyebrow doesnt look like the GT eyebrow once. Not even her angry face has this kind of eyebrow angle on the outer line
or such a curve as the GT Tifa.
And i already commented on the lip / mouth, its not the actual shape, size whatever,
its because GT Tifas mouth has a extremely soft color and theres no clean line. The color is fading out. That makes her mouth look thin.
But the ingame Tifa model doesnt have a soft lip color at all and the lip color / lipstick has a very clean line.

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And this is GT Tifa:

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Can we at least agree that its the wrong eyebrow shape and also not the correct like lipstick "paintjob"?
 
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Tosh said:
Thank you for a actual real answer,
but how do you explain this:
All of these screens below are literally screenshots from the game, different scenarios with slightly different facial expressions.
Her eyebrow doesnt look like the GT eyebrow once. Not even her angry face has this kind of eyebrow angle on the outer line
or such a curve as the GT Tifa.
And i already commented on the lip / mouth, its not the actual shape, size whatever,
its because GT Tifas mouth has a extremely soft color and theres no clean line. The color is fading out. That makes her mouth look thin.
But the ingame Tifa model doesnt have a soft lip color at all and the lip color / lipstick has a very clean line.

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And this is GT Tifa:

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Can we at least agree that its the wrong eyebrow shape and also not the correct like lipstick "paintjob"?
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A lot of it is because of the angle. I noticed that on Zack. From a high angle, his lips and brows looked thinner because they're painted on a slanted surface. See here on this pic, you can see her top lip and eyebrows look more full. I'm telling you guys, lighting and angles are playing a huge role in this; she's going to look amazing in hand.

Another note: all of the pre order photos for GT have had the "air brush" lips effect, but on release have all had quite a solid line paint job

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Khaos said:
A lot of it is because of the angle. I noticed that on Zack. From a high angle, his lips and brows looked thinner because they're painted on a slanted surface. See here on this pic, you can see her top lip and eyebrows look more full. I'm telling you guys, lighting and angles are playing a huge role in this; she's going to look amazing in hand.

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That is 100% true and there are GT Tifa product photos that look better than others.
But even in this pic, you can see how soft the color of the lips is and the color is fading out on the outer line.
That make the dark line in the middle of the actual mouth very prominent.
But thats not how it looks on the ingame model. Ingame, her lipstick has a very clean line where the color / lips ends.
 
Howson Lex said:
Out of curiosity where you do you see USD246 or RM1145?
I see everywhere selling around USD350+-
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Just click that Toymarks link i attached it should lead you towards that site i saw the item. i think its much cheaper in some places due to shipping and stuff as stated by the others. Wait... Is toymarks same as TW? hahahah 🚩
 
The Tifa controversy is endless. I hope people who have negative opinions based on prototype photos will just wait a year to see the mass-produced products and judge them.
What we have to do now is to express our support and gratitude to the GT boss.
If you don't like Tifa, make your own.
 
There's always the option to get someone to repaint certain features of the face if you are not happy with the final look. Lots of talented artists in this hobby who can make a B grade sculpt looking like a S grade with contouring painting.

Of course, price is the concern but if you want it to be to your liking that's what you have to pay for no?
 
Riosk said:
I preordered....6 i know i know i just couldn't help it. 🥺
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I end up getting 2 myself but one with taobao I want to see how legit it is and what are the shipping cost and speed etc to break down the end price once it's released
 

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