Rian Johnson Star Wars trilogy put on indefinite hold

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If you didn't see the original Star Wars in theaters back in '77 then...

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We get it, we get it.. You like to brag about how much closer to death you are.
 
We get it, we get it.. You like to brag about how much closer to death you are.

Funny thing is, I bet I have a decent shot at outliving between 60-75 percent of people who are 20 years younger than I am just based on lifestyle choices. Getting proper exercise and not being morbidly obese goes a long way.
 
Funny thing is, I bet I have a decent shot at outliving between 60-75 percent of people who are 20 years younger than I am just based on lifestyle choices. Getting proper exercise and not being morbidly obese goes a long way.
*50 years from now*
“Somehow, TurdFurgusonsHat returned…”
 
It's weird how the same person that contributed to the destruction of Star Wars is also capable of making the brilliant "Knives Out". I find it hard to discount him too much.
 
It's weird how the same person that contributed to the destruction of Star Wars is also capable of making the brilliant "Knives Out". I find it hard to discount him too much.

I saw Knives Out, it was decent.
I think the difference is, Knives Out was its own thing.
It wasn't a middle film in a trilogy where cooperation and collaboration is needed (which obviously he didn't do for TLJ)
He doesn't understand Star Wars or it's characters at all.
Twists and turns and "expectations subverting" work in "who dunnit" mystery films like Knives Out but not Star Wars.

Sure maybe if he was given a trilogy far divorced from everything else, set in the far future or something, where he can't mess up established characters or lore.
But then, TLJ was also horribly boring so even in that situation I'm not convinced he'd do a good job.
Maybe he should just stay away from Star Wars.
 
I saw Knives Out, it was decent.
I think the difference is, Knives Out was its own thing.
It wasn't a middle film in a trilogy where cooperation and collaboration is needed (which obviously he didn't do for TLJ)
He doesn't understand Star Wars or it's characters at all.
Twists and turns and "expectations subverting" work in "who dunnit" mystery films like Knives Out but not Star Wars.

Sure maybe if he was given a trilogy far divorced from everything else, set in the far future or something, where he can't mess up established characters or lore.
But then, TLJ was also horribly boring so even in that situation I'm not convinced he'd do a good job.
Maybe he should just stay away from Star Wars.
I thought Knives Out was okay, but thought Looper was fantastic, so I had high hopes for TLJ. Then all the praise from the critics had me really excited as TFA was just okay, and I was looking forward to the movie which was "better than ESB" (which is impossible for a SW movie). When I saw the movie, I couldn't believe what I had seen and thought it was a sick joke. The crap jokes, the crap bomber space ships, the crap Mary Poppins, the crap Admiral Akbar death, the crap Holdo and even more crap Holdo maneuver, the crap Rey, the crap crap Luke - the list goes on. The deconstruction has no place being introduced in movie 8 of 9 in a series.
 
I thought Knives Out was okay, but thought Looper was fantastic, so I had high hopes for TLJ. Then all the praise from the critics had me really excited as TFA was just okay, and I was looking forward to the movie which was "better than ESB" (which is impossible for a SW movie). When I saw the movie, I couldn't believe what I had seen and thought it was a sick joke. The crap jokes, the crap bomber space ships, the crap Mary Poppins, the crap Admiral Akbar death, the crap Holdo and even more crap Holdo maneuver, the crap Rey, the crap crap Luke - the list goes on. The deconstruction has no place being introduced in movie 8 of 9 in a series.

I agree with everything you posted and I'd add the incredibly dull slow motion space chase that reminds me of OJ's low speed Police chase. The entire awful space casino scene. Broom boy. The terrible throne room choreography. "It's salt".
It's just an awful movie.
 
It’s a very terrible movie tbh. The force awakens was ok but but the follow up should have been better. TLJ and ros was just so bad and forgettable. Nothing memorable or exciting about it. Just a terrible follow up to a legendary trilogy
 
I know it has its fans, but I still am baffled at the enormous critical disconnect between movie critics and general audiences. There was stuff in there that maybe could have been salvaged, but so many critical reviews - SO many - hyped it up as the greatest Star Wars movie since Empire.

And it’s just… what? Really?
 
Greed made Disney churn out Star Wars movies every 2 years. And the product suffered.

I'm not a fan of 3 shows a year now either. I miss one every 3 years back in the day.

Other genres came and went, but a Star Wars movie used to be special.
 
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I’ve mentally erased the ST. They never happened in my SW world. I remember being close to tears watching TFA trailer, and thinking “ OMG it’s really happening, Star Wars is back!” Then utter disappointment with the film after seeing it. TLJ was insulting to anyone that had grown up with the original trilogy lore. I remember coming out of the cinema feeling like I’d been abused and that I’d wasted all these years thinking how truly fantastic SW was, and for what?… So some director obviously completely detached from the films, thought it would be “clever” to basically urinate on all that went before it and him. The Star Wars culture has been irreparably damaged since the ST. It will never be what it was, and for that I’m very sad.
 
I’ve mentally erased the ST. They never happened in my SW world. I remember being close to tears watching TFA trailer, and thinking “ OMG it’s really happening, Star Wars is back!” Then utter disappointment with the film after seeing it. TLJ was insulting to anyone that had grown up with the original trilogy lore. I remember coming out of the cinema feeling like I’d been abused and that I’d wasted all these years thinking how truly fantastic SW was, and for what?… So some director obviously completely detached from the films, thought it would be “clever” to basically urinate on all that went before it and him. The Star Wars culture has been irreparably damaged since the ST. It will never be what it was, and for that I’m very sad.
I’ve mentally erased the ST just like I’ve erased the entirety of Game of Thrones.
 
I haven't wanted to go back to rewatch GoT once since it ended.

I rewatch shows like Mr Robot and TNG because of great endings, great storylines and great characters.
 
I haven't wanted to go back to rewatch GoT once since it ended.

I rewatch shows like Mr Robot and TNG because of great endings, great storylines and great characters.
A great ending can make or break a whole series. I’m back to rewatching Castlevania due to how strongly it wraps up.
 
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