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I wish we could do an experiment and place 100 InArt Gandalfs and 100 Asmus Gandalfs with new head on a table with a sign that reads "Take One for FREE"... and let 100 people choose and see which ones are left.

I suppose ebay prices over time will be a pretty good indication.
 

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Same. The individual eyes aren't hard to align either in my experience. Like futzing any other part of the figure, it takes patience to get right but once you do, your figure can look pretty amazing. However, for some folks who prefer to just take their figure out of the box and plop them on a stand without any sort of adjusting the way you see some figures being sold on eBay, I guess can see the frustration with having to put a little effort into the display.

I'm considering picking up other HT sculpts that have singular moveable eyes just so I can take out the InArt system and replace them with the HT ones. The only thing stopping me is that it's a pricey thing to do and don't feel like spending the required money on it :thud:


Agreed! Given how much we pay for these things, I don't see why it's too much to ask to put them together with a little a little time and care.
I like what HT are doing with their SRE system a lot. So far the most recent figures shown with it look amazing, especially Sabine. The old PERS I can definitely do without.

As far as stands go, yes, Middle Earth displays will be available. I made them years ago for all the Asmus, SS and other 1/6 stuff that came out so I’ll for sure continue that.

I have a center post mount I use for ANH Leia that doesn’t poof her dress out in the back and is completely hidden that I think will work great for Gandalf due to his long robes.
The latest HT single eye system figures haven't suffered from the thick eye lids. I only have Luke ROTJ (picture below) and Batman Returns and both are fine (had Ashoka and Maul briefly too and those seemed good too).

If I'm being honest, the thick cut on the bottom eye lid on Joker and Gandalf is reminiscent of the awful Sideshow experiment with their inserted eyeballs with the Hoth Han and Luke figures. Obviously the InArt Joker and Gandalf are incredible figures and will look great on display but it shouldn't be too much to ask that they solve this issue. It's at least twice as thick as the HT one.

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The latest HT single eye system figures haven't suffered from the thick eye lids. I only have Luke ROTJ (picture below) and Batman Returns and both are fine (had Ashoka and Maul briefly too and those seemed good too).

If I'm being honest, the thick cut on the bottom eye lid on Joker and Gandalf is reminiscent of the awful Sideshow experiment with their inserted eyeballs with the Hoth Han and Luke figures. Obviously the InArt Joker and Gandalf are incredible figures and will look great on display but it shouldn't be too much to ask that they solve this issue. It's at least twice as thick as the HT one.

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I think the deep-set eyes work really well for Gandalf since they make him look old and weary. Joker's eyes were definitely set too far back though. Hopefully, Aragorn doesn't have that problem.
 

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I think the deep-set eyes work really well for Gandalf since they make him look old and weary. Joker's eyes were definitely set too far back though. Hopefully, Aragorn doesn't have that problem.
I agree the old-man aspect makes it less an issue with Gandalf, just hoping it's not the only way they know how to do it. I guess we'll see with their other upcoming sculpts.
 

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The latest HT single eye system figures haven't suffered from the thick eye lids. I only have Luke ROTJ (picture below) and Batman Returns and both are fine (had Ashoka and Maul briefly too and those seemed good too).

If I'm being honest, the thick cut on the bottom eye lid on Joker and Gandalf is reminiscent of the awful Sideshow experiment with their inserted eyeballs with the Hoth Han and Luke figures. Obviously the InArt Joker and Gandalf are incredible figures and will look great on display but it shouldn't be too much to ask that they solve this issue. It's at least twice as thick as the HT one.

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They'll get there. It's just some fine tuning needed.
 
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The latest HT single eye system figures haven't suffered from the thick eye lids. I only have Luke ROTJ (picture below) and Batman Returns and both are fine (had Ashoka and Maul briefly too and those seemed good too).

If I'm being honest, the thick cut on the bottom eye lid on Joker and Gandalf is reminiscent of the awful Sideshow experiment with their inserted eyeballs with the Hoth Han and Luke figures. Obviously the InArt Joker and Gandalf are incredible figures and will look great on display but it shouldn't be too much to ask that they solve this issue. It's at least twice as thick as the HT one.

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That's why I said I hope they continue to improve with it as time goes on. This is only their second figure and also the only company to try PERS outside of Hot Toys. There's room for them to improve with it.

Hot Toys had terrible looking PERS until about a year or two ago when INART came into the scene. That's why we used to see PERS less and less from them, until now where everything has PERS.
 

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That's why I said I hope they continue to improve with it as time goes on. This is only their second figure and also the only company to try PERS outside of Hot Toys. There's room for them to improve with it.

Hot Toys had terrible looking PERS until about a year or two ago when INART came into the scene. That's why we used to see PERS less and less from them, until now where everything has PERS.
I'm not sure when HT started the single eye system exactly but Batman Returns from late 2015 is still great if that's the first. Not quite the same situation as an actual head sculpt given the cowl and mouth plates, etc.

Seems like the first separate eyes sculpts in the DX line appears to be Jack Sparrow in 2018 and then Maul in late 2019. A bit more forgiveness on those like Joker maybe given that they're heavily made up but Maul was well executed. Never saw Sparrow in person.

Anyhow, hoping to get my Gandalf invoice soon but I'm likely a later batch if that's a thing again with this release. Gandalf and Aragorn are now my two most anticipated figures.
 

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If I'm being honest, the thick cut on the bottom eye lid on Joker and Gandalf is reminiscent of the awful Sideshow experiment with their inserted eyeballs with the Hoth Han and Luke figures. Obviously the InArt Joker and Gandalf are incredible figures and will look great on display but it shouldn't be too much to ask that they solve this issue. It's at least twice as thick as the HT one.

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Agreed.

At least with Gandalf it appears someone could remove the eyes and shave the eyelids down a bit from inside the sculpt with a dremel. Unfortunately with Joker it’s thick on the outside making adjustments impossible.
 

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That's why I said I hope they continue to improve with it as time goes on. This is only their second figure and also the only company to try PERS outside of Hot Toys. There's room for them to improve with it.

Hot Toys had terrible looking PERS until about a year or two ago when INART came into the scene. That's why we used to see PERS less and less from them, until now where everything has PERS.

I’d say HT has been putting out great looking PERS figures for years now. Only their very first tries have looked funky. 89 Joker and Bats, 92 Bats, all three Mauls, latest Sparrow, CW Ahsoka just to name a few that I own all look awesome.

DX01, DX05 and maybe even the DX11 would be the few I would say turned out looking worse with PERS.

I think the SRE system they have now is the pinnacle for that feature though. Yeah, it takes a little more effort to get them aligned but at least you can get them there.
 

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InArt Joker has a thick outer lower eyelid, but deep set eyes which doesn’t work.

Ledger had a slight ”poof” to his lower eyelids, but the InArt sculpts overstated this detail.

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Gandalf, we’re talking about the “inner eyelid” instead of outer, inner would never be that thick.

1:1 would be 33 microns, or 0.033 millimeters for “inner”.

They’ve improved this issue with Aragorn, at least on the prototype. Thinner inner & outer lids as well as no recessed eyes, maybe too thin on his left eyelid, his right looks about perfect. But these PERS just don’t capture his eyes at all, they’re easily the biggest characteristic to Aragorn.

If they could get the saturation in the iris to be more vivid, a wet appearance in the sclera & iris, as well as a sweat appearance to the skin, it would help a lot. He had a good bit of facial hair also, enough to warrant a real mustache and beard imo.

Custom artists achieve this with sculpted painted eyes all the time, unfortunately InArt PERS aren’t there yet which is a shame because I don’t see InArt revisiting this character once they master it.

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The good news is -

I definitely see this sparking a lot of custom artists to nail Viggo’s likeness and eyes with their custom 3D printed sculpts, rooted hair, and paint apps.

It doesn’t appear that InArt noted Viggo’s upper lip scar on their sculpt.

Since InArt nailed Aragorn’s clothing and boots (at least on prototype) hopefully it translates well, those boots seem to be the most difficult aspect.

This will create enough interest for proper 3D printed sculpts to be made, before it was only one or two artists attempting this.
 
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