Casino Royale--Spoilers Ahead

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screamingmetal said:
And I still scratch my head with all the complaints about the invisible car in Die Another Day, I consider it just as absurd as Jaws's metal "jaws", so I don't have any problem with either. :dunno

Jaws could've had his metal teeth surgically implanted. Yeah, it would've hurt like heck, but he was a brutish tough guy. It was absurd, but it didn't require a huge stretch of the imagination. The invisible car...that was just way too sci-fi for a Bond film.
 
The other problem I had with the invisible car is that it supposedly projected what one side of the car was seeing onto the other side giving the illusion of invisibility. But if that's the case then Bond shouldn't have been able to hide behind it...

In the book the reason Bond wasn't killed was because the SMERSH assassin only had orders to kill Le Chiffre. I think I like the movie's reason much better.
 
One thing I kinda wished they would do by now is say that "James Bond" is a title given to the 00 assigned to number 007. M and Q are obviously titles. Why not Bond. I know some of you probably wouldn't agree with it, but to me it makes the most sense. It would explain why Bond has been able to stay the relativly same age for 40+ years and why the Ms and Qs are being replaced and technology and is getting more advanced. If they did do it like this I would want them to have the current Bond either resign (like he tried to do in this film ) or even DIE! That is one thing that has never happend and I don't think would be expected. It would also be a great way to introduce the new guy as a spurprise at the end of the film.

I know there really hasn't been anything in the films to support my idea, but like I said it would make the most sense if you wanted to have everything fit together. It would also allow Casion Royale to not be a reboot, but the next guy as 007 (the only flaw woudl be Bond's #2 kill calling him Bond before he becomes a 00 agent, but its such a minor flaw that I think it could still work). Anyone have any thoughts on this?
 
Casino Royale will probably be the first Bond film that I will see twice in the theaters since Goldeneye eleven years ago. My wife want to see "Casino" this week while I am on vacation.
 
tomandshell said:
Casino Royale will probably be the first Bond film that I will see twice in the theaters since Goldeneye eleven years ago. My wife want to see "Casino" this week while I am on vacation.

I'm tempted to go again as well. I'm heading for Vegas for Thanksgiving because my brother will be playing in the Turkey Shoot. So I have a feeling I could go see this again with family down there (or Happy Feet). Vegas is very Casino Royale-ish right? :D
 
Buttmunch said:
One thing I kinda wished they would do by now is say that "James Bond" is a title given to the 00 assigned to number 007. M and Q are obviously titles. Why not Bond. I know some of you probably wouldn't agree with it, but to me it makes the most sense. It would explain why Bond has been able to stay the relativly same age for 40+ years and why the Ms and Qs are being replaced and technology and is getting more advanced. If they did do it like this I would want them to have the current Bond either resign (like he tried to do in this film ) or even DIE! That is one thing that has never happend and I don't think would be expected. It would also be a great way to introduce the new guy as a spurprise at the end of the film.

I know there really hasn't been anything in the films to support my idea, but like I said it would make the most sense if you wanted to have everything fit together. It would also allow Casion Royale to not be a reboot, but the next guy as 007 (the only flaw woudl be Bond's #2 kill calling him Bond before he becomes a 00 agent, but its such a minor flaw that I think it could still work). Anyone have any thoughts on this?

I don't think that would work at all..... 007 is the title... not his name, James Bond. To have subsequent 007's be called James Bond would be very silly, and it would never be the same. Changing actors and keeping the name isn't all that bad, in a way it keeps it fresh. Batman changed actors a lot as well...but imagine if they started doing that with him.... Batman is just a title, let's have a new Bruce Wayne and someone take up the title....

Would be bad.....very bad.
 
Sith Lord 0498 said:
Jaws could've had his metal teeth surgically implanted. Yeah, it would've hurt like heck, but he was a brutish tough guy. It was absurd, but it didn't require a huge stretch of the imagination. The invisible car...that was just way too sci-fi for a Bond film.
Well you see, That's where I feel the complete opposite. No one in their right mind would want jaws like that, and no way in hell would they be able to bite through steel, as Jaws did once to a chain in The Spy Who Loved Me. Nor would anyone but a psychopath want to use them to bite other people (from his appearances, I don't think he's a psychopath).
But The invisible car seems more plausible to me.

Agent0028 said:
The other problem I had with the invisible car is that it supposedly projected what one side of the car was seeing onto the other side giving the illusion of invisibility. But if that's the case then Bond shouldn't have been able to hide behind it...
I didn't notice that in the movie, I'll have to watch it again sometime. If that is indeed what happened, then it's vary stupid, but the idea of the invisible car isn't a terrible one.

Buttmunch said:
One thing I kinda wished they would do by now is say that "James Bond" is a title given to the 00 assigned to number 007. M and Q are obviously titles. Why not Bond. I know some of you probably wouldn't agree with it, but to me it makes the most sense. It would explain why Bond has been able to stay the relativly same age for 40+ years and why the Ms and Qs are being replaced and technology and is getting more advanced. If they did do it like this I would want them to have the current Bond either resign (like he tried to do in this film ) or even DIE! That is one thing that has never happend and I don't think would be expected. It would also be a great way to introduce the new guy as a spurprise at the end of the film.

I know there really hasn't been anything in the films to support my idea, but like I said it would make the most sense if you wanted to have everything fit together. It would also allow Casion Royale to not be a reboot, but the next guy as 007 (the only flaw woudl be Bond's #2 kill calling him Bond before he becomes a 00 agent, but its such a minor flaw that I think it could still work). Anyone have any thoughts on this?
It's an interesting idea, and had it not been substantiated enough that it's a name and not a title I would've liked that they did differentiate the different bonds
 
I like your idea Buttmunch. I think I'm going to explain it away in my head as the beginning is a flashback and the rest takes place in the present some 50 odds years later. :lol
 
That's one thing I wonder about the future of the franchise from here on out... Casino was a wonderful film, and now officially my favorite of the series... taking down From Russia With Love, but just barely. But what happens now?

Do they skip ahead and start on all new adventures for Bond? Or do they redo the books as they should have been made? I mean if they do the latter... We will kinda have the endings and the story spoiled for us already having seen the films many times over. It would be interesting to see what they would do with it for the modern day and what they could change for dramatic effect....

Either way I'm happy... I have a Bond I'm excited to see on the screen and I cannot wait for his return. So no matter what they do from here... I'm good. Bond is back.... and at his best!
 
I think I read somewhere that they weren't planning on redoing any of the old movies like Goldfinger. So I guess that kinda takes out doing any of them acording to books. However, I would personally like to see DAF and Moonraker redone as the books have them. And since the book versions are so different from the movies it wouldn't really be a remake...would it?
 
Agent0028 said:
I think I read somewhere that they weren't planning on redoing any of the old movies like Goldfinger. So I guess that kinda takes out doing any of them acording to books. However, I would personally like to see DAF and Moonraker redone as the books have them. And since the book versions are so different from the movies it wouldn't really be a remake...would it?

Only if they call them DAF and Moonraker. I didn't know for the longest time that Thunderball and Never Say Never Again were bascially the same film. I couldn't figure out why two Bond films had bad guys named Largo :lol Then if you think about it, DAF and DAD are pretty similar as well.
 
That's okay, back when I got into Bond TBS (I think) used to do the Bond marathon and it ran for a few weeks between Thanksgiving and Christmas (I used to stay up late and watch them instead of studying for finals.) Anyways, I remember the first time I saw Never Say Never, gave me the weirdest feeling a deja vu. I checked the TV guide, but I had never seen the movie before, so how did I know so much about it. :rotfl Guess I shoulda spent more time studying for finals eh?
 
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