The Dark Knight Rises - 1/6th scale Batman Armory with Bruce Wayne Collectible Set

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$565 plus tax, plus shipping, $650. One of the “figures” is a statue. They’re nuts.

Meanwhile, they still have all these products sitting there, unsold.




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I’ve never seen Hot Toys compete with themselves like this before.
 
Yes it was very nice of Hot Toys to clearly illustrate their contempt for their customers dedication to innovation with those handy infographics. :lol

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Really strange move by Hot Toys to overshadow the launch of an improved version of a figure by making the release overlap with a previous version.

They must’ve been working on this when DX19 production was in full swing; maybe well before that. They should’ve known people would be upset. Weird play when they can’t afford any ill will.

Would’ve been better if they’d used this improved figure for DX19 and made this set the DX20 as a more deluxe package.
For sure! Completely agree with what you said for the most part.

However, I would think that these “updates” only came to HT attention with the popularity of OT’s custom bits and seeing that they could make some more money by offering this “new and improved” set. You’ve got ppl shelling out hundreds of dollars on a few custom items that, when tallied together, equate about to the price of a full figure; so, why not “offer” collectors that new and improved figure with those updated pieces so HT start to get that money instead of the customizer?

One side of folks will be like some are here, rightfully upset about this especially the timing from the DX19 release that’s still in stock (much like the Mando comparison previously made). But, I imagine there are others who will be/are fine with it b/c it’s a better monetary value than spending the price of a full figure on just a few custom bits that they then also have to modify their DX19 to fit some of those pieces.

As someone who still owns the DX19, my only initial thought was “well, should’ve sold it sooner” rather than anger that they didn’t already give me the updates. I’m sure it won’t be cheap or easy, but one could always grab the body and neck parted upon release to upgrade their DX19.

Does it suck some? yes, I fully admit that HT have more resources than any of us do to have already been more than capable to include these changes previously. But, I’m oddly not as disappointed with this as much as I am with ROTJ Vader. Aside from its timing, I think it’s a pretty cool set that makes me wish I had the space to display the whole get up including the batmobile and the batpod with it. All that said, I’m in no rush to PO and will gladly wait to see what InArt cooks up
 
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Where is InArt? No news since February. No new releases, no new figures delivered. That's not pressure.
InArt already mentioned that they won’t be revealing things until the summer cons and I wouldn’t be surprised if TDK Batman is at those cons. Therefore, the “pressure” would be to reveal this version now to get as many orders in as possible before the potentially better InArt reveal later this year.
 
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Not a surprising release, but I get the suit "updates" are frustrating. Personally, I prefer the metal TDK armory but I wasn't expecting this version to look this good. I held off on the DX19 for this, expecting them to include the batman figure like they did with the TDK armory. The sculpt does look off from certain angles but I prefer the older, more seasoned look.
My main issue with this and the DX19 is the bulkiness, he was a lot slimmer in this suit. As far as the BW statue, for what we're paying this should come with swappable arms like IW Thor so we can get poses of him removing items from the armory.
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This thing was teased almost a decade ago. I've been waiting ever since, to pair it with my TKD armory, and am glad it's seeing the light of day, after being vaporware for so long.

I like that Bruce has a new look that hasn't been done before, which helps justify the purchase. I don't need another "Bruce in a suit," and a cane is an easy accessory to find if you want it. Still not too happy about the price, but I wonder if the high price and the apparent apathy from many of the consumers, for a suit that has been sold many times over already (and quite recently), will lead to a discounted price later on.

I think people that are upset about previous purchases, in light of this announcement, are buying these figures for all the wrong reasons. If you think a figure is worth your money, you buy it for itself - and the later release of another figure does nothing to alter the figure you already bought and have. But if you're buying a figure just because it's the "latest release" or the "most accurate version so far," then you're making the mistake of not judging your purchase based on its own merits, rather than relative to the potential for other releases.

There's a more accurate version now? So what? If you liked DX19 and thought it was "accurate enough for the money," then it still should be "accurate enough for the money." If it wasn't good enough for your standards (such that a later release would make you regret your purchase), then you shouldn't have bought it in the first place.

I'm surprised at some of the long-time collectors here still being upset by this cycle. I might have felt the same way ten years ago, so I understand it from some of the newer collectors, but I would have thought that the old-timers here whose names I recognize as collectors for more than a decade would have matured beyond that point by now.

Hot Toys' first TDK suit release was terrible (remember the "gut?"), so I was happy when DX02 provided the upgrade. Then came the armory release, and I was happy to upgrade a second time then as well - not only for the accuracy, but more importantly, because the long-term durability of the suit promised to outlast the always-dicey rubber that DX02 had. I passed on DX19, since what I had felt good enough - minute adjustments on accuracy, and even more faceplates weren't worth spending money on. This is now the fifth version of the suit? I'll get it for the armory and the Bruce, but I won't buy multiple bodies to upgrade by TDK suit figures the way I did when the TDK armory came out.

At some point, you just have to be happy with the thing you have and not worry about minor variations of future releases. If what you have isn't going to be good enough for you, then don't buy it - and at the same time, don't let your things own you.
 
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How can anyone defend this?

“accurate design”…didn’t they say that for every Baleman released thus far? DX19 was “accurate” too…but this one, it’s even MORE ACCURATE-ER! And the nerve to show them side by side comparison pics.

The body isn’t even cold yet and HT are like “Cut it up and burn it”

This is another DX12 situation where the mouth plates were UNIVERSALLY hated and not long after that figure dropped, they revealed the armory with better mouth plates.

Look, I’m not calling anyone out, there are a lot of people I like here…but saying things like “You don’t have to buy this, HT don’t owe you anything”

Technically you’re right…but it’s ****ed up on SO many levels.

How? How can anyone defend this?

MMS, DX02, DX12, armory, QS, Dx19, QS again…

Defend this, I DARE you.
 
Idc what an actor looks like in another movie. He certainly didn’t look roided out without the fake muscle suit or the CGI.

You stated that Affleck wishes he looked that shredded, insinuating that you were referring to his physique in general, not just Batman, hence why I also said the Town. Name one superhero in the past decade that hasn’t had some form of a padded muscle suit, I’ll wait. Even so, that doesn’t take away or undermine the great shape most of them get in for their respective roles.
 
Not a surprising release, but I get the suit "updates" are frustrating. Personally, I prefer the metal TDK armory but I wasn't expecting this version to look this good. I held off on the DX19 for this, expecting them to include the batman figure like they did with the TDK armory. The sculpt does look off from certain angles but I prefer the older, more seasoned look.
My main issue with this and the DX19 is the bulkiness, he was a lot slimmer in this suit. As far as the BW statue, for what we're paying this should come with swappable arms like IW Thor so we can get poses of him removing items from the armory.
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Indeed. Despite all the ‘mods’ and improvements; the proportions are still way off.
 

There's a more accurate version now? So what? If you liked DX19 and thought it was "accurate enough for the money," then it still should be "accurate enough for the money." If it wasn't good enough for your standards (such that a later release would make you regret your purchase), then you shouldn't have bought it in the first place.


At some point, you just have to be happy with the thing you have and not worry about minor variations of future releases.
Absolutely this 👍

The new one isn’t perfect as well, so all the guys who buy custom parts for hundreds of dollars will still not be satisfied with that release, because the cowl is slightly of or the armor is a not accurate to that one still from the movie. There is going to be something.

For me the DX19 represents the Nolan Batman well enough. Is it perfect? No and I can understand that bothers some collectors. The only new Nolan Batman I will consider is the inArt one. But first lets wait and see if they can deliver with Pattinson Batman.

The armory would be nice for photos though.
 
This thing was teased almost a decade ago. I've been waiting ever since, to pair it with my TKD armory, and am glad it's seeing the light of day, after being vaporware for so long.

I like that Bruce has a new look that hasn't been done before, which helps justify the purchase. I don't need another "Bruce in a suit," and a cane is an easy accessory to find if you want it. Still not too happy about the price, but I wonder if the high price and the apparent apathy from many of the consumers, for a suit that has been sold many times over already (and quite recently), will lead to a discounted price later on.

I think people that are upset about previous purchases, in light of this announcement, are buying these figures for all the wrong reasons. If you think a figure is worth your money, you buy it for itself - and the later release of another figure does nothing to alter the figure you already bought and have. But if you're buying a figure just because it's the "latest release" or the "most accurate version so far," then you're making the mistake of not judging your purchase based on its own merits, rather than relative to the potential for other releases.

There's a more accurate version now? So what? If you liked DX19 and thought it was "accurate enough for the money," then it still should be "accurate enough for the money." If it wasn't good enough for your standards (such that a later release would make you regret your purchase), then you shouldn't have bought it in the first place.

I'm surprised at some of the long-time collectors here still being upset by this cycle. I might have felt the same way ten years ago, so I understand it from some of the newer collectors, but I would have thought that the old-timers here whose names I recognize as collectors for more than a decade would have matured beyond that point by now.

Hot Toys' first TDK suit release was terrible (remember the "gut?"), so I was happy when DX02 provided the upgrade. Then came the armory release, and I was happy to upgrade a second time then as well - not only for the accuracy, but more importantly, because the long-term durability of the suit promised to outlast the always-dicey rubber that DX02 had. I passed on DX19, since what I had felt good enough - minute adjustments on accuracy, and even more faceplates weren't worth spending money on. This is now the fifth version of the suit? I'll get it for the armory and the Bruce, but I won't buy multiple bodies to upgrade by TDK suit figures the way I did when the TDK armory came out.

At some point, you just have to be happy with the thing you have and not worry about minor variations of future releases. If what you have isn't going to be good enough for you, then don't buy it - and at the same time, don't let your things own you.

It’s still in poor taste.

I expected them to release the TDKR Armory with the DX19 body/suit. Another Batman is expected, especially in a movie year.

However, when you advertise it in such a way that makes the preexisting product (that is still in active circulation) as obsolete/inferior, that’s just insulting. It’s not just collectors, but their distributors and partners that still have the DX19 in their stores.

It sends a negative message that they’re holding things back. That they’re using FOMO marketing techniques to rope people in. It’s tasteless. They’re not doing their best for every release, and it shows. It’s just like Hasbro, where they purposely leave out this detail or this accuracy point so you’re left with something that’s missing and are enticed by “the next one”.

Make no mistake though, this one will be missing some detail or feature or accessory that “the next one” has. It’s why toy companies purposely change scales midline life and make certain things incompatible like different sized ball joints etc.
 
There's some really interesting upgrades going on with this new release, but too much is unknown. Particularly the new cowl sculpt with faceplates, etc. The remodeled empty cowl does not at all appear improved to me. Looks worse. I still think OT's custom parts are more accurate looking and better done than what HT has pictured in their product shots. These custom shoulder pads feel slimmer and lay more flush to the shoulders, and the neck flows into the cowl more naturally looking. I also think that having an upgraded dx19, I don't think it's worth the +$500 to get this new set.

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You stated that Affleck wishes he looked that shredded, insinuating that you were referring to his physique in general, not just Batman, hence why I also said the Town. Name one superhero in the past decade that hasn’t had some form of a padded muscle suit, I’ll wait. Even so, that doesn’t take away or undermine the great shape most of them get in for their respective roles.
Lol too bad Rises was more than a decade ago.
 
Plus, adding thickness to the neck isn't solving the giraffe neck look that have always plagued HT's attempt at this character.

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I've always wanted this armory to complete the collection so an improved Batman is fine by me. I'll have this new armory Batman displayed with the inart joker, the dx19 displayed in the armory and dx12 on the batpod.
 
You guys don't need to upgrade every time HT drops a Bat.
Ha, we don't NEED to buy figures at all. Personally I like upgrading characters as the engineering and capabilities get better. Hell, that's half the fun. When I compare my first Man Of Steel Superman to the newest JL Supes, and all the improvements they've made with the shear suit and chrome body, I'm really impressed.
 
It’s still in poor taste.

I expected them to release the TDKR Armory with the DX19 body/suit. Another Batman is expected, especially in a movie year.

However, when you advertise it in such a way that makes the preexisting product (that is still in active circulation) as obsolete/inferior, that’s just insulting. It’s not just collectors, but their distributors and partners that still have the DX19 in their stores.

It sends a negative message that they’re holding things back. That they’re using FOMO marketing techniques to rope people in. It’s tasteless. They’re not doing their best for every release, and it shows. It’s just like Hasbro, where they purposely leave out this detail or this accuracy point so you’re left with something that’s missing and are enticed by “the next one”.

Make no mistake though, this one will be missing some detail or feature or accessory that “the next one” has. It’s why toy companies purposely change scales midline life and make certain things incompatible like different sized ball joints etc.


After seeing Justin’s toy store tour in HK really emphasizes unsold stock of not just DX19, but for many marvel related products and SW.

I can NOT imagine store owners being happy with this reveal.
 
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