The Mandalorian (Star Wars Live Action Series)

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I think the biggest issues I had with this episode was the truly awful storytelling. Someone has already mentioned Carson’s journey which was just a joke and the punchline was R5-D4. Why didn’t he just go straight there?

But I was fuming at the constant repeating of Greef’s hologram they showed it twice and then referred to it again a third time. Awful.
 
Paz Vizsla's Mandalorian speech was a pretty goated moment. I like how he comes off as an fine fellow sometimes, but he's actually a pretty damn good dude underneath it all. I liked this episode a lot more than rest, but still feels like the season is gonna end right when it finally starts getting good lol.
 
Well, yeah, Imo tho also full of cheesy tropes and not in a good way. I'm a rabid fan of this show but c'mon.
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It was fun but I miss the writing like for the Mando Boba planet Halo episode. Someone needs to put the grit and heart back.

These spoilers made me literally laugh out loud.

Whose up for a return trip to Ringworld, a place far more serious than where we are now [evidently]
 
My wife and I were freaking out over that cameo since we're huge fans of the show they're from. Looked great, too. Recognized the voice right away and it looked exactly like them. We were excited to get to the credits to confirm. :lol

I was thinking about it and I have a theory that some of the New Republic plot points were taken from the shelved Rangers of the New Republic and spliced into The Mandalorian.

I imagine there was always a bit of New Republic involvement planned like Carson Teva's scenes as in past seasons. But maybe they added what they felt was necessary to help lay the groundwork for the big crossover event in the future.

I don't like that they have to make the New Republic ineffectual to fit the ST but I do at least appreciate they're showing why. Yet most of it feels lifted from a different show. I like seeing all the New Republic content but a separate D+ movie or miniseries would've been preferable. But they were probably worried a lot of people wouldn't watch it and they may have needed Mando to absorb the budget.
 
I liked how
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This does kinda double down on the cynicism of the ST: all of that sacrifice and heroism, only to replace the Empire with an incompetent and blandly evil bureaucracy that has its head so far up its own orifice they're good with peppering their logistical machinery with former Imperials and letting people die because they didn't fill out their tax forms. Yeah, these idiots had it coming.
It does mirror real world history though. It's rare (if any) for a good government to come out from a revolution. Even the US had to stumble after its revolution against the British.

In my country after our revolution in the 80's where we overthrew a dictator, things did not go smoothly even if the next government was a popular one and we're still feeling the effects today.

In a way, it appears the New Republic had over-corrected after the Empire was overthrown. They're trying so hard not to be the Empire.

For example, the Empire built armies (we're seeing this in The Bad Batch) and now the New Republic is demilitarizing. They had all the good hardware from the Empire but they do not want to use it so they are leaving large swathes of territory unprotected. Another example
is how they treated prisoners. We saw how the Empire treated prisoners in Andor. The New Republic is trying to "reform" prisoners instead ending up bringing potential spies into their fold.

And yet, in some levels, there are still like the Empire. The leadership of the rebellion comes from the same elite that empowered the Empire. We see it in the scene in Coruscant here where the wealthy do not care at all because to them, it was all the same (the Republic, the Empire and now The New Republic). It is this wealth that empowered the Empire and it is also this same elite that is empowering the New Republic. It is also probably the same elite that will give rise to the First Order.
 
It does mirror real world history though. It's rare (if any) for a good government to come out from a revolution. Even the US had to stumble after its revolution against the British.
No argument there; but the OT has an idealism and innocence I'd rather not smear with realism LOL ... I love Rogue One and Andor yet see them as separate somehow in spite of being connected in spirit to the OT.
 
So everyone in the Camp Mando cave sleeps and bathes with their helmets on, even the kids? Burqa-lorians would take their covering off in private, yet these guys don't seem to.

They have kids, so do they take their helmets off to "meet" each other ahead of time, or is it just the helmet you "fall" for - and keep on even during mando-a-mando?
 
To me the whole conception is a little too family-friendly and way too revealing and in the open - mandalorian badassery and mystery has given way to silly banners, mannered speech and Mando kids in goofy Hasbro helmets.
Star Wars almost always suffers when the creators fill in the blanks. It's not built for that kind of scrutiny as a general rule.
 
So everyone in the Camp Mando cave sleeps and bathes with their helmets on, even the kids? Burqa-lorians would take their covering off in private, yet these guys don't seem to.

They have kids, so do they take their helmets off to "meet" each other ahead of time, or is it just the helmet you "fall" for - and keep on even during mando-a-mando?

This is absolutely the STUPIDEST plot point, at no time in the past have Mandos kept their helmets and clothes on at all times. Whoever thought this was a good basis for this show has a screw or two loose. EU Mandos would fall out of their flight suits laughing, at the mere idea.
 
This is absolutely the STUPIDEST plot point, at no time in the past have Mandos kept their helmets and clothes on at all times. Whoever thought this was a good basis for this show has a screw or two loose. EU Mandos would fall out of their flight suits laughing, at the mere idea.

A lot of this show can be summed up with writers saying, “wouldn’t it be cool if…” and then just going from there:lol
 
This is absolutely the STUPIDEST plot point, at no time in the past have Mandos kept their helmets and clothes on at all times. Whoever thought this was a good basis for this show has a screw or two loose. EU Mandos would fall out of their flight suits laughing, at the mere idea.
I asked all about the making babies while wearing helmet part too.

But we have to consider that this is basically a cult of hardcore Mandalorians. It doesn't reflect the main culture of Mandalore.

They acknowledge this in this episode
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It does mirror real world history though. It's rare (if any) for a good government to come out from a revolution. Even the US had to stumble after its revolution against the British.

In my country after our revolution in the 80's where we overthrew a dictator, things did not go smoothly even if the next government was a popular one and we're still feeling the effects today.

In a way, it appears the New Republic had over-corrected after the Empire was overthrown. They're trying so hard not to be the Empire.

For example, the Empire built armies (we're seeing this in The Bad Batch) and now the New Republic is demilitarizing. They had all the good hardware from the Empire but they do not want to use it so they are leaving large swathes of territory unprotected. Another example
is how they treated prisoners. We saw how the Empire treated prisoners in Andor. The New Republic is trying to "reform" prisoners instead ending up bringing potential spies into their fold.

And yet, in some levels, there are still like the Empire. The leadership of the rebellion comes from the same elite that empowered the Empire. We see it in the scene in Coruscant here where the wealthy do not care at all because to them, it was all the same (the Republic, the Empire and now The New Republic). It is this wealth that empowered the Empire and it is also this same elite that is empowering the New Republic. It is also probably the same elite that will give rise to the First Order.
That’s as may be……the 3 giant turkeys though. You still haven’t addressed their disappearance.
 
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