The Mandalorian (Star Wars Live Action Series)

chrisstbh · Mar 16, 2023

ScoutingForToys said:
Yeah it was not good. It all had a weird tone. Don't know if some of that tone was intentional, so the audience feels something is wrong and the New Republic is not what it seems etc but for me, they failed in execution.
The female ex-officer was so weird throughout, with her goofy smiling etc. She came off hyper fake. Of course, there's a reason for that and I instantly didn't trust her, but the actress went too far. Massively over played it.
Then the clunky weird dialogue throughout.
Pretty much every characters acting was appalling in that middle section. The Mon Cal character was particularly crap.
If I ever rewatch this season, I'll only watch the opening 5 mins or so of this episode.
There were some bits that had potential; the Empire like bureaucratic elements of the NR, the waybtheh refer to them as numbers, the elite not really noticing the difference between the Empire and the NR, the operation paperclip like Amnesty program etc etc, but the execution was so ham-fisted.
Imagine what this episode would have been had it been directed by Gilroy.

It felt like a dream sequence, like the kind of sequence where someone is already inside his head, I was expecting him to wake up already strapped into the mindflayer or something.

ScoutingForToys · Mar 16, 2023

choombaz said:
Just to clarify, Tony Gilroy has never directed any SW. He was showrunner on Andor but didn’t direct any episodes. His brother however did direct though. I know I need to shut up in these situations but I just can’t help myself lol.

Fair enough, but you know what I mean. If the Andor crew had made this episode and competently executed the ideas, with a better script. And had better actors.

Otomofan · Mar 16, 2023

The Imperial lady is a stuntwoman, not really an actress, so that kind of accounts for her performance.

ScoutingForToys · Mar 16, 2023

Otomofan said:
The Imperial lady is a stuntwoman, not really an actress, so that kind of accounts for her performance.

Ah I see. Well good for her, for the opportunity I suppose, but it was unwise to give her such a big role for this episode (and presumably for future episodes too) as her acting is not good at all.

Mandible · Mar 16, 2023

Otomofan said:
The Imperial lady is a stuntwoman, not really an actress, so that kind of accounts for her performance.

...and her physique.

ZE_501 · Mar 16, 2023

Felinx said:
Setting up a 30+ minute story solely focused on these two on a little adventure exceeded the mileage limits of both the characters and the actors.

Taungsdays ... amirite?

ZE_501 · Mar 16, 2023

I've had a day to let it sink in. Yeah, I'm kinda torn -- the opening of the episode was goofy action spectacle that any fan can enjoy, but the show is struggling with writing. I really hope this doesn't turn into a hate watch.

I abandoned the MCU but it's not as nostalgic as Star Wars. As I've more or less said before ... too much nostalgia = death.

chrisstbh · Mar 16, 2023

guyver1 · Mar 16, 2023

I want a Photon Fizzle :lol

The Buffinator · Mar 16, 2023

jaztermareal said:
The twist in the side plot this episode made no logical sense but it did serve to make the New Republic look incompetent and even somewhat evil, as if the Empire was replaced with Empire 2.0. Way to make the original trilogy's achievements mean nothing (though the sequel trilogy already did that).

Hey, this is Star Wars - when there is darkness, light rises to meet it and vice-versa. There's be nothing to fight about otherwise. So the peace achieved by the Rebels was never going to last forever. That doesn't make the OT heroics any less extraordinary. And so far the NR (a newly formed government) doesn't look nearly as incompetent as the clowns in the Galactic Senate that Palpatine so easily manipulated in the PT. Here Kane took advantage of bureaucratic incompetency in the execution of a rehabilitation program, whereas in the PT the incompetence was widespread amongst the leadership of the Galactic Republic.

ScoutingForToys · Mar 16, 2023

Assuming they don't go off on another tangent next week, I'm interested to see more interaction with Armorer and Bo. Wondering how well they know each other and whether we'll find out Armorers name as a result of her and Bo interacting. Kinda bored of calling her "The Armorer".
I hope Favreau doesn't attempt too much of this "adventures in intrigue" stuff like he did in the latest episode. He doesn't have the writing chops to do it. That stuff is best left to Gilroy and his Andor guys. Favreau should just stick to his strengths. Dumb swashbuckling adventure please Jon.
It's funny. When ep1 was out, I was grumbling that I'd like to see The Mandalorian show step beyond the adventure of the week stuff and evolve into a more structured, story driven show.
Ep3 has shown me that Favreau and the Mando guys just don't have the ability to do that.
Now I want to them to stick to the tried and true Mando and his adventures format. Lol.

guyver1 · Mar 16, 2023

I’m thinking Pedro was probably filming the last of Us when this episode was made

jaztermareal · Mar 16, 2023

The Buffinator said:
Hey, this is Star Wars - when there is darkness, light rises to meet it and vice-versa. There's be nothing to fight about otherwise. So the peace achieved by the Rebels was never going to last forever. That doesn't make the OT heroics any less extraordinary. And so far the NR (a newly formed government) doesn't look nearly as incompetent as the clowns in the Galactic Senate that Palpatine so easily manipulated in the PT. Here Kane took advantage of bureaucratic incompetency in the execution of a rehabilitation program, whereas in the PT the incompetence was widespread amongst the leadership of the Galactic Republic.

That would be fine if it was at least a few decades of peace... the republic stood for what? 1,000 years before the empire took over, the new republic starts failing IMMEDIATELY and within 20-30 years is utterly defeated due to stupidity.
There were many directions one could the story after ROTJ, many possible adventures both small and large scale that do not undo the achievements of the past. Disney opted for reset which required undoing everything that came before to facilitate.

guyver1 · Mar 16, 2023

So jumping in the water as a reaction to save Dinn counts as “ Bathe in the waters “

Does Bo really want to keep the helmet on all the time now

Darthrazz · Mar 16, 2023

Was the voice of the Mon Calamari who hooked up Pershing to the mind flayer played by Dan Ackroyd? Sure sounded like him.

guyver1 · Mar 16, 2023

Light up popsicles and biscuits will be what people will look for at SW Celebration Europe..mark my words :lol

Darthrazz · Mar 16, 2023

This episode is the "Nikki and Paulo" of the Mandalorian, lol.

ZE_501 · Mar 16, 2023

The Buffinator said:
Hey, this is Star Wars - when there is darkness, light rises to meet it and vice-versa. There's be nothing to fight about otherwise. So the peace achieved by the Rebels was never going to last forever. That doesn't make the OT heroics any less extraordinary. And so far the NR (a newly formed government) doesn't look nearly as incompetent as the clowns in the Galactic Senate that Palpatine so easily manipulated in the PT. Here Kane took advantage of bureaucratic incompetency in the execution of a rehabilitation program, whereas in the PT the incompetence was widespread amongst the leadership of the Galactic Republic.

Fan-splaining. :mwaha

Just having fun with my new catchphrase. But seriously, this is why anyone at Lucasfilm still has a job. None of us could accept the story was over.

I liked the idea of smaller stories like what we saw in Season 1 of The Mandalorian, it felt like the grand saga was properly over and now we were just taking a jaunt "in-universe", but of course there's no way Disney or any other corporation with its hooks in this property, was ever going to let anything lie. My ex summed it up when she cited her exhaustion with the property: "It's just endless war, WTF?"

Indeed.

guyver1 · Mar 16, 2023

New Republic…New Republic..New Republic…blah..blah..blah …blah :horse

That didn’t last long …as we can see in Rey’s era…

ZE_501 · Mar 16, 2023

jaztermareal said:
Disney opted for reset which required undoing everything that came before to facilitate.

Disney is counting on diehard fans who can never fill the gaping void inside themselves, general audiences with short memories and no investment...and kids.

If Disney produces compelling entertainment it's an unintended side-effect of their algorithms.

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