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Abby evoked more sympathy for me than Ellie in Part 2 as time wore on. Until the end when they were both destroyed by their obsession.

The ending of Part 1 put Ellie into a situation with no easy resolution. She was driven down the darker path, just as Abby had been.

Not all stories are written to please an audience, to have happy conclusions all neatly wrapped up with a bow on top. Some are written specifically to challenge them, to evoke emotions, and to force them to think about the choices and dilemmas the characters experience. They can also challenge us to stick with favoured characters when they make bad choices, or become lost on their path to the point where we barely recognise them.

As I've written before, they're only videogames so by nature aren't the usual media to challenge the players that way, but rather to provide escapism. There isn't much escapism in Part 2 since the story traps the player/viewer whichever way they feel about the unfolding of the narrative. As a videogame the story is also of the melodramatic kind, but yet with enough complexity in the character relationships to make you care. An analogy I often think of is a brooding Batman comic book, with characters driven by a few bold, simple yet powerful emotions.

I haven't played either game, but have watched them several times as long movies or series. I think this is probably the best way to experience TLOU, to be a passive observer on the journey rather than an active part of it (because the player can't change the story anyway). Not all stories go the way you want, so if you stick with them regardless you're forced to either dismiss them or rationalise them.

It doesn't take much to pull TLOU/TLOU2 apart, since in real life we'd consider our beloved killers to be psychopaths without remorse. (Which is essentially what every game player is forced to be in games that require killing to complete). You have to gloss over all the deaths, and accept them as the videogame part of the experience, in order to believe in Ellie's PTSD by the end of TLOU2.


I don't know how accurate any review score is, but people seem happy to accept IMDB's 9.7/10 for TLOU. TLOU2 is 8.6/10, which indicates that regardless how dark and uncompromising the plot was, and how unliked it was to see the demise of a certain loved character, a lot of players opted to rationalise the events and appreciate the story.

TLOU2 spoke to me, and made me think about personal loss, and the ending still gets me whenever I find myself dwelling on it.

This series is my post-apocalyptic world of choice, so much so that I found myself putting other 1/6 characters into it. I'll buy any figures from it. If the two games are viewed as one extended narrative, then Abby is one of the three main participants.

I still don't expect anyone to make a 1/6 Abby, but I'd be over the moon if LIM did so.
I think this is the best explanation I've seen so far on Part II. lol You really hit the nail on the head there.
You mentioning not having played either game made me wonder if much of the hostility towards Part II could've been because a lot of gamers maybe felt like they were Joel, and that Naughty Dog threw all of their work in Part I away for some shock value? And that ND was basically spitting in their faces? If that makes sense?
At the time, it's understandable that what happened to Joel was difficult to comprehend from the gamer's perspective, which naturally made us all want some one-on-one time with Abby (which we got). It made no sense why Abby did what she did until you start unravelling her side of the story. But I'm pretty sure it was written purposely that way so that we could feel where Ellie's urge for revenge and rage came from.
Either way you look at it, all of those characters left a looong trail of bodies in their wake. None of them were exactly innocent.
As for an Abby figure? If Lim or MT made her, sure, I'd probably get one. Although I'm not a big fan of her character, I also can't say I hate her. Heck, some of Part II's most memorable moments for me were her parts (skyscraper, clicker hotel, the hospital was freaking terrifying!).
But, at the same time I can also say I hope she doesn't come back for Part III either. But mainly because I don't see it making sense for the story.
Anyway, I know some people get ridiculously attached to certain game characters sometimes, but there really is such a thing of getting too attached.
Anyone remember the backlash that Mass Effect 3 got? Yikes. lol
 
I think this is the best explanation I've seen so far on Part II. lol You really hit the nail on the head there.
You mentioning not having played either game made me wonder if much of the hostility towards Part II could've been because a lot of gamers maybe felt like they were Joel, and that Naughty Dog threw all of their work in Part I away for some shock value? And that ND was basically spitting in their faces? If that makes sense?
At the time, it's understandable that what happened to Joel was difficult to comprehend from the gamer's perspective, which naturally made us all want some one-on-one time with Abby (which we got). It made no sense why Abby did what she did until you start unravelling her side of the story. But I'm pretty sure it was written purposely that way so that we could feel where Ellie's urge for revenge and rage came from.
Either way you look at it, all of those characters left a looong trail of bodies in their wake. None of them were exactly innocent.
As for an Abby figure? If Lim or MT made her, sure, I'd probably get one. Although I'm not a big fan of her character, I also can't say I hate her. Heck, some of Part II's most memorable moments for me were her parts (skyscraper, clicker hotel, the hospital was freaking terrifying!).
But, at the same time I can also say I hope she doesn't come back for Part III either. But mainly because I don't see it making sense for the story.
Anyway, I know some people get ridiculously attached to certain game characters sometimes, but there really is such a thing of getting too attached.
Anyone remember the backlash that Mass Effect 3 got? Yikes. lol

When watching it was almost disappointing to leave Abby and go back to Ellie. It was engrossing to follow her transformation from monster to sympathetic character, while Ellie gradually became more monstrous the further she slipped into her personal darkness.

I'd like to see Abby come back though, and supposing she crosses paths with Ellie see how the writers tackle their relationship. They obviously aren't afraid of setting up difficult situations, and the reunion of Ellie and Abby would certainly be one of those.

It'd be similar to Maggie and Negan in The Walking Dead, wherein Negan killed someone close to Maggie yet with time she comes to tolerate and accept him, even though she can't forgive him. Though hopefully better written than TWD. :lol

On the other hand a reunion could just undermine Part 2's haunting ending unless handled particularly well.


Every now and then I rack my brains of ways to create her in 1/6. I have a simple winter version on a padded female body with a generic pony tailed sculpt as a stop gap. Yesterday I was thinking of bulking her up more, or somehow Frankensteining the sculpt to a small male muscle body. A DID Advanced Slim short would be about the right height and build, but it would need a female neck. A rubber neck cut from a Pop Toys female body could be packed inside to widen it.

niekgrijz has a pretty good body for the bare armed look:

https://www.collectorfreaks.com/threads/1-6-custom-abby-the-last-of-us-part-2.247605/
 
Some skilled artist can easily turn this sculpt into Abby,with repaint and hair modifications.
 

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Some skilled artist can easily turn this sculpt into Abby,with repaint and hair modifications.
You’re not wrong. Artists can bring out certain features with just paint to make it look like a specific person even though the sculpt is not there.

I’ve seen it a few times with generic barbies which I reckon would give a similar result if you use the sculpt from the picture. You need an extremely talented artist though. The biggest downside with this technique is that it doesn’t really work from the sideview as Abby’s pronounced nose and chin are absent from that sculpt.

If you want a sculpt that’s accurate and looks like Abby from every angle you’ll need a custom sculpt like mine. One way to see if a sculpt is any good is if you can see the likeness when unpainted. The etsy one was undeniably Abby even unpainted.

You can get the sculpt for $30-40. If you’re gonna have to get it repainted by a skilled expensive artist anyway you might as well go all the way and use the proper sculpt.

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Goodluck studio used a similar technique to get more likeness out of the CCtoys Ellie sculpt. Which always just looked like a generic child to me and not much like Ellie. I think they’ve done the best they could. It’s still not 100% Ellie but it’s a huge improvement overall.

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Some skilled artist can easily turn this sculpt into Abby,with repaint and hair modifications.

I used a DAM IDF '"Nachshol" sculpt, which has a plaited pony tail in a hair colour similar to Abby's.

This is an old photo from when I put her together:

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She's padded all round and down her legs, but I added more padding to her arms this morning. Padded to the max until the arms of the jacket just barely fitted:

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She needs futzing again now.
 
News reports state that Annie Wersching, who played Tess in The Last of Us videogame, died of cancer today aged 45. RIP.
Read the news shortly after it was announced and it completely shocked me, she was so young and in so many well known franchises, just last week I was playing the Boston chapter in The Last of Us wondering why they didn't cast her in the show because she's just so damn good.... It's absolutely heartbreaking to learn she was a mother to 3 young boys too I hope she finds peace wherever she's at and that her family can stay strong during this time.

**** cancer.
 
Sad news indeed.

In terms of the discussion around Abby I would be all in on her 1/6 scale figure as well. I'm disappointed with the pose choice prime1 made for their TLOU2 statue set of ellie and abby..
 
In terms of the discussion around Abby I would be all in on her 1/6 scale figure as well. I'm disappointed with the pose choice prime1 made for their TLOU2 statue set of ellie and abby..
Wow, I wasn't even aware about Prime1 making TLOU2 statues, thanks for the info!

I'm usually not a fan of their work (and their take on Ellie kinda proves my point) but I have to admit I'm impressed by the likeness of their Abby! Makes me want a 1/6 version even more :gah:
 
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I don’t know if this has been mentioned yet. But I wonder what body you guys will be using for Ellie? Wil it be an all new body or will it be an existing body like how CCtoys used a TBLeague S27B?
 
Holy cow! Sculpted by hand makes this even more impressive. Fantastic work.
Thanks a lot! I really appreciate it! Yes, I was inspired as soon as I heard about the Limtoys figurines. Therefore, high-quality figurines, high-quality diorama.
 
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