1/6 INART (Queen Studio) - The Dark Knight - Joker Collectible Figure

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Regular ppl who aren’t as deep in this space or even aware of customs will. There are also collectors who only buy officially licensed items. Gotta remember that just b/c we here are aware of these things, we’re a small amount of ppl relatively speaking.

From my own experience, my brother collects as well but he collects way more vintage stuff than 1/6 stuff so he doesn’t know about Yunsil, Yixie, Mike Yuan etc like we do. But he knows way more about vintage figures than I do or even care to learn. He knows Sideshow and Hot Toys, but when ThreeZero came out with the Power Rangers line he asked me if they were a legit company so he would know if it was safe to order them
Thats a good point. But I should point out that people dropping 1k on collectibles must have some skin in the game.

When I started collecting I thought $200 was absurd for an action figure 😂
 
To add, if were no longer interested in the figure because its not what was shown in the beginning, why dont we cancel the PO and kindly not lurk in this thread? Surely we have better things to do than waste time on a figure were clearly not interested in.
I dont know about everyone else but Im definitely interested and still hoping for the best. But thats not to say Im not worried
 
I dont know about everyone else but Im definitely interested and still hoping for the best. But thats not to say Im not worried
I’m honestly not worried about anything. Everything that’s shown to us has easily got to be the best of the best licensed figures we’ve gotten to date in 1/6 scale. Yeah there may be some minor imperfections but at the end of the day it’s just and action figure that’s meant to look cool really
 
I think by now everyone should know what to expect in the box. There will no be a huge surprise either way. If you like what you've seen, you should be happy -- if you really don't like what you've seen, then you will likely not be happy with it in hand.
Can I be happy with what I haven't seen and be angry with what I might see--but haven't seen in hand, but then be happy at the end when what I receive/or pre-cancel then be sad with what have might have been, but wasn't reality--all because I am not really that happy anyways...

uhhhhh.....
 
I think by now everyone should know what to expect in the box. There will no be a huge surprise either way. If you like what you've seen, you should be happy -- if you really don't like what you've seen, then you will likely not be happy with it in hand.
Pretty much this. They posted a production video of the figure giving a proper look at it. If you aren't happy with how it looks there, then you're probably not gonna be happy when it reaches your door.

Said it before and I'll say it again but anyone expecting something better than the prototype was fooling themselves. My expectation and worry with them was more about them being able to at least match Hot Toys in terms of drop in quality going from prototype to production. Throughout the years, no other licensed company (Sideshow, Threezero, Star Ace, Blitzway, etc) has been able to match them in that department when it comes to mass produced figures at this big of a scale.

Is there a drop in quality in this? Of course there is but it's essentially what we see with Hot Toys, if not, better considering the magnitude and scale that they had to root these sculpts at. For a new small team coming into this and being ambitious as they are, I think they've done a great job on the production end. If you want to get a $1000 custom sculpt and another $700 outfit, by all means go jump on those custom runs and wait out the years/months for it, they're beautiful pieces of art but they are in a separate category than what Inart is doing here.

It's also kind of crazy to think that we preordered this figure only 7 months ago and it's their first ever 1/6 mass produced figure. Fair to criticize them of course and I hope they learn + improve going forward with each figure that they release. That said, I think with everything they had going against them, they did a great job. There are things that could be improved here and there of course but I've seen customs that costed more that weren't perfect either.

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Can I be happy with what I haven't seen and be angry with what I might see--but haven't seen in hand, but then be happy at the end when what I receive/or pre-cancel then be sad with what have might have been, but wasn't reality--all because I am not really that happy anyways...

uhhhhh.....

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Why have pre orders continuously reopened for months for a collectible that was supposed to have a limited 3 day preorder window. That’s due to either A: failure to meet quota, B: cancellations, bringing it back to A.

I believe a lot of people put down a deposit simply due to fomo, great initial photos, wanting a complete Joker w/o having to do the work to build a custom, and not knowing Hot Toys hand. To later, when the hype died down, realize they don’t like it enough to spend 1k and are either wanting to switch to a single sculpted to make it an easier pill to swallow and not lose their deposit or cancel all together and source a custom.
Because it's the shops/resellers that are opening up their inventory that they purchased.

Let's say Kit ordered 100 two pack Jokers because 100 people placed an order with him. The orders close so he orders those 100 directly from InArt and he's committed to buying all 100 of them. Now 50 people cancel their order with Kit. Kit can't cancel his order with InArt, so he opens back up the preorders. He doesn't let as many people order whatever they want. He let's 50 more of the Joker two packs sell and then he stops the orders again.

InArt isn't the one that is opening up the orders to meet a quota. These places want to make sure they have all of the orders they placed covered with a sale. The amount of figures sold remain the same. It's the allotted buyer that's changing per the figure already sold.
 
Pretty much this. They posted a production video of the figure giving a proper look at it. If you aren't happy with how it looks there, then you're probably not gonna be happy when it reaches your door.

Said it before and I'll say it again but anyone expecting something better than the prototype was fooling themselves. My expectation and worry with them was more about them being able to at least match Hot Toys in terms of drop in quality going from prototype to production. Throughout the years, no other licensed company (Sideshow, Threezero, Star Ace, Blitzway, etc) has been able to match them in that department when it comes to mass produced figures at this big of a scale.

Is there a drop in quality in this? Of course there is but it's essentially what we see with Hot Toys, if not, better considering the magnitude and scale that they had to root these sculpts at. For a new small team coming into this and being ambitious as they are, I think they've done a great job on the production end. If you want to get a $1000 custom sculpt and another $700 outfit, by all means go jump on those custom runs and wait out the years/months for it, they're beautiful pieces of art but they are in a separate category than what Inart is doing here.

It's also kind of crazy to think that we preordered this figure only 7 months ago and it's their first ever 1/6 mass produced figure. Fair to criticize them of course and I hope they learn + improve going forward with each figure that they release. That said, I think with everything they had going against them, they did a great job. There are things that could be improved here and there of course but I've seen customs that costed more that weren't perfect either.

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No! You can’t go and post well lit, well futzed high quality pictures!

You need to show the low quality, I think I just saw Big Foot, blurry photos so I can be angry at InArt for making me spend $1000 on such garbage, darn you! :angryfist::thwak
 
Because it's the shops/resellers that are opening up their inventory that they purchased.
Well yes and no, I agree with most of what you said. To be fair there’s only so much to go off of without it just being pure speculation on our part. Having said that, I believe shops and resellers didn’t abide by the 3 day pre order window solely due to a lack of preorders. As for why they continue to open and close? Clearly both Inart and these shops / resellers want more sales, whether that be due to cancellations or not getting enough orders in the first place, who knows. I suppose Inart realizes they aren’t really an established enough company to make bold business decisions ie: (refusing to sell to shops and resellers just because they went against your wishes) that wouldn’t be a very long line of figures if half the bidders were locked out of the auction room.
 
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Well yes and no, I agree with most of what you said. To be fair there’s only so much to go off of without it just being pure speculation on our part. Having said that, I believe shops and resellers didn’t abide by the 3 day pre order window solely due to a lack of preorders. As for why they continue to open and close? Clearly both Inart and these shops / resellers want more sales, whether that be due to cancellations or not getting enough orders in the first place, who knows. I suppose Inart realizes they aren’t really an established enough company to make bold business decisions ie: (refusing to sell to shops and resellers just because they went against your wishes) that wouldn’t be a very long line of figures if half the bidders were locked out of the auction room.
I agree that the first reopening of the Joker could have been InArt. Hence why they had the Joker open for only 3 days at first then reopened for 30 days. The other figures since were open 30 days, so i think they realized 3 days was way too low for 1/6th. The recent reopenings and the ones that have stayed open, no that's not them.

The cancelations do not effect InArt. The 15,000 Jokers, 5,000 Gandalfs, 1,000 Pennywise, and whatever Batman that were originally ordered were placed by the sellers and can not be canceled by the sellers. They are stuck with those orders.

Hot Toys are only open for 30 days as well, but with Sideshow they order so much in those 30 days they are able to keep the preorders open as of late until the figure comes out. This is why we are starting to see preorders sell out with them because they lowered the amount they order upfront. Sideshow doesn't want all that overstock from all the cancelations they are getting.
 
I agree that the first reopening of the Joker could have been InArt. Hence why they had the Joker open for only 3 days at first then reopened for 30 days. The other figures since were open 30 days, so i think they realized 3 days was way too low for 1/6th. The recent reopenings and the ones that have stayed open, no that's not them.
I agree. The first reopening was claimed to be Inarts response to shops & resellers not following protocol. However, I tend to think the same as you, that it’s much more likely 3 days for a 1:6 figure set priced at a grand from a company with no experience didn’t rake in the preorders that they expected Joker would provide, seeing how it’s been the most wanted figure in the hobby for years. As for shops and resellers, regardless to how this figure comes out, will be stuck with a few extras at the very least. We’ll probably see preorder availability off and on all the way up until release. It’s simply shops trying to see to it that their investments pay off. It’s easier to sell something during the hype, before anyone has it in hand, than it is to gamble on remaining stock with how it’s perceived by customers after release when you have copies left that nobody wants but would’ve gladly bought 3 months ago.
 
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