Prime1 Giger Alien (Big Chap)

It sucks for people who were lucky to get one the first time. However, I missed out and love the piece, so I'm getting it.

nothingface35 said:

It sucks for people who were lucky to get one the first time. However, I missed out and love the piece, so I'm getting it.

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There was 3 years to pre order... people had plenty of time. Just because the people who got it loved it, doesn't make it okay for people to support this garbage.

The p1 page is taking polls down. So glad I saved them. One is still up. For now.

jaklynfiorhollyw said:

The p1 page is taking polls down. So glad I saved them. One is still up. For now.

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Wow, who controls the P1 fan page? Is it actually Prime 1 themselves?

marker2037 said:

Wow, who controls the P1 fan page? Is it actually Prime 1 themselves?

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They are linked and give feed back to p1. It's pretty much run by them.

P1's product management guy is an admin there, I don't know how often he visits though.

jaklynfiorhollyw said:

There was 3 years to pre order... people had plenty of time. Just because the people who got it loved it, doesn't make it okay for people to support this garbage.

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Not everyone has the financial means, or a place to store a piece like this, during pre-order periods. Glad you're well off.

I didn't care for the statue's pointless backwall, so I passed on the OG.
This one I like more, and glad I don't have to pay double SRP to get one.

This is nothing new for P1, but at least in the past they changed the pose, color or accessories. It kinda sucks for those who have the OG, but I'm not angry about getting to own the copy edition.

nothingface35 said:

Not everyone has the financial means, or a place to store a piece like this, during pre-order periods. Glad you're well off.

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So every statue should be re cast and re released incase people weren't ready at that time? Okay I'll take a sideshow 1/4 queen alien bust while we are at it.
See how silly that sounds?

FACEBOX said:

I didn't care for the statue's pointless backwall, so I passed on the OG.
This one I like more, and glad I don't have to pay double SRP to get one.

This is nothing new for P1, but at least in the past they changes the pose, color or accessories. It kinda sucks for those who have the OG, but I'm not angry about getting to own the copy edition.

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You're not mad because you're only in it for yourself. Just wait until their quality dips so low because people keep giving them money for shady company decisions.

jaklynfiorhollyw said:

So every statue should be re cast and re released incase people weren't ready at that time? Okay I'll take a sideshow 1/4 queen alien bust while we are at it.
See how silly that sounds?

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jaklynfiorhollyw said:

You're not mad because you're only in it for yourself.

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Most people are.

I think it's more a matter of if the opportunity presents itself and one doesn't have to put up with actual recasters (who consistently sell crappy, deformed castings with bad paint jobs), they'll take advantage of it. The ethics of Prime 1's decisions are questionable, yes, but the statue's already up for order. It's happening no matter what. So if you really, really want the best mass-produced Alien statue ever made, are you going to pay aftermarket prices for the first release, wait for truly illegal recasts from a third party, or pay MSRP through the original manufacturer?

This is setting aside the fact that polystone is a cheap, brittle material and Prime 1's QC has been hit-or-miss anyway. Quality-wise it's always going to be a gamble with this company, but I can see why people would prefer taking their chances with the reissue over the first two options.

I guess the nobler fourth option is sitting out entirely, but people prioritize their values differently. Can't shame them into changing. Society has tried that with much more important issues than statues in the last several years and failed. Look at how many folks still support Amazon. If buying an officially reissued statue is where people choose to leave their morals at the door, well, they could do a lot worse.

I've still got the Jungle Hunter on order and if it's a dud, I'll cancel. I'm well-aware the NRD pays for the chance to own the ultimate Predator piece, rather than a guarantee. I'm also prepared for it to be an extremely common item. It's not an ideal situation, but having understood the risk, I've budgeted accordingly and have contingency plans. Not like I'm buying much else in this hobby. My collection is smaller than it's ever been.


Unrelated to your particular post, but it's a sobering read and I keep bringing it up so I might as well share the link. For those who still think this stuff is cheap, check this out:
http://www.statueforum.com/showpost.php?p=6045304&postcount=34I know folks who've owned their own collectible companies and failed in the last few years, they can attest to this as well. I'll grant that Prime 1 is more willing than others to raise their prices (in some cases higher than necessary), but the manufacturing realities they're reacting to are indeed realities.

jaklynfiorhollyw said:

So every statue should be re cast and re released incase people weren't ready at that time? Okay I'll take a sideshow 1/4 queen alien bust while we are at it.
See how silly that sounds?

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Glad you're part of the 1%.

nothingface35 said:

Glad you're part of the 1%.

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What? Haha
If I was a part of the 1% I'd buy prime1 and I'd fire the idiot that made this decision.
And if I was really a part of the 1% I'd hire the best sculptors to compete on how accurate they could get to the chap and I'd pick one.

This is a full on scumbag move by Prime 1 and I'm not even surprised, that's who they are now sadly. Many of us paid over the odds to get this one, and had to accept flawed statues to keep hold of them. Even Mine has issues and I was one of the lucky ones. If Prime 1 want to sell multiple versions of the same statue, that's fine, but they should all be announced at the same time so that people can choose the one they want. Not right after the first run has sold out so that they can try and swindle every penny they can get.

I have no issue with more people enjoying something, this is indeed a fantastic statue, but it's their fault they made the ES too small, they shouldn't just be able to re start another on a whim. I've committed 5k to their 1/3 JH, it being somewhat limited helps make that commitment feel a bit better somehow. Now I'm wondering if they will just make more whenever they want, what's the point any more. Like it or not ES numbers have always been a part of this hobby. I missed out on the Dog, but they definitely shouldn't be making more of them! I actually would have gone for this version as I never liked the wall. Fortunately when it actually arrived and I saw it all in person, that opinion quickly changed. The wall adds a lot so I am happy to have it at least.

Being stoked to get this recast when it's on the necks of others seems impertinent.

burtial said:

Being stoked to get this recast when it's on the necks of others seems impertinent.

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Being mad at people seems exhausting.

If I had a nickel for every time others did right by themselves without my approval, I'd have already ordered the 1/3 City Hunter and commissioned someone to make a cooler base for it. But here I am with no 1/3 City Hunter. And ulcers instead of nickels.

Anger should not be directed at the collectors who choose to take advantage of something that was not asked for but is being offered. I’m certainly taking advantage of it.

Collectors who take advantage of this are supporting and encouraging this behavior from manufactures, leading to further degradation of the hobby.

jaklynfiorhollyw said:

You're not mad because you're only in it for yourself. Just wait until their quality dips so low because people keep giving them money for shady company decisions.

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The same could be said for the opposite side of the argument. People who don't want others to have one are only in it for themselves.

I'm not saying it's ideal, but people should invest in crypto if they want to make a quick buck or get custom pieces if all they want is exclusivity.

FACEBOX said:

The same could be said for the opposite side of the argument. People who don't want others to have one are only in it for themselves.

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It seems that people are choosing to be willfully ignoring the main point of contention here.